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The digital library will also let gamers play a game if it isn't fully downloaded

Sony is driving the point home that the PlayStation 4 is a flexible console -- unlike the Xbox One, perhaps -- with its digital library. 

Neil Brown, Sony’s senior team leader of R&D, said that the PS4's digital library will allow gamers to play their titles anywhere on any machine.
 
He added that the PS4's digital library won't make you wait hours and hours for a title to download. Instead, gamers can play sections of the game as they become available, even if they aren't fully downloaded. 

"You can visit your friends house you can log into your account and play any game from your digital library, which is good," said Brown. "But how useful is that if it takes half a day to download the game you want to play? With Play As You Download you get much quicker access to at least the first section of the game so you can start playing quicker. So this makes a digital library a practical option in the real world.”
 
A similar system also works on Blu-ray, chunks are automatically copied to the hard drive in the background. This means that after the first few minutes your game can rely on having faster read speeds from the hard drive. Which provides a better experience for players, and this is a completely background process for the player. They don’t have to wait for anything to install before playing the game. The game will launch as soon as the disk has been put in the drive.”
 

Sony announced the PS4 last month, which is a $399 console featuring an 8-core 64-bit x86 Jaguar CPU built by AMD; a Radeon GPU comprised of 18 compute units (achieves 1.84 TFLOPS); a 6x Blu-ray drive; 8GB of GDDR5 of unified RAM; USB 3.0; Bluetooth 2.1; HDMI; optical out, and 802.11n Wi-Fi.

Sony also presented some of the upcoming PS4 games, such as "Elder Scrolls Online," which will launch next spring; "NBA 2K14"; "Assassin's Creed 4: Black Flag"; "Killzone: Shadow Fall," which is due the first quarter of 2014; "Infamous: Second Son," which will be released the first quarter of 2014; "Final Fantasy Versus XIII," and "Kingdom Hearts III."

The PS4 and Microsoft's Xbox One are being heavily compared right now, since they're two of the most popular gaming consoles around. But the Xbox One has received a lot of criticism for the restrictions it placed on gamers, such as the used games ban and the new "always-on" digital rights management (DRM) system, which posed a problem for many people who are either in rural areas with slow Internet connections, travelling or experience Internet issues with providers.

Despite the fact that Microsoft retracted these features after major complaints, it has still left a bad taste in some customers' mouths. 

Source: Official PlayStation Magazine



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RE: has it really?
By Flunk on 7/11/2013 10:17:01 AM , Rating: 3
And the Kinect, I'm not the only person who hates the Kinect.

Seeing that this article lays out Sony's digital content plan it sound like that's also going to be less restricted than Microsoft's.

At this point there really isn't anything to recommend the Xbox One over the PS4, unless you really love the Kinect or need the TV integration (which only works with "preferred vendors" anyway).


RE: has it really?
By Flunk on 7/11/2013 10:18:11 AM , Rating: 2
They don't have to match Sony to win us back, they need to be better and as it stands they still look significantly worse.


RE: has it really?
By Samus on 7/11/2013 2:02:10 PM , Rating: 2
Kinect aside, Xbox One has some media features the PS4 does not have such as HDMI in/out, media programming, xbox live, etc.


RE: has it really?
By lexluthermiester on 7/13/2013 8:19:08 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Kinect aside, Xbox One has some media features the PS4 does not have such as HDMI in/out, media programming, xbox live, etc.


How can anyone set the "Kinect" issue aside? Not! HDMI in is nothing more than a passthru for other devices. XBL is sad and pathetic compared to Sony and Nintendo's offerings. Ya, XBO is more annoyance, less value, higher price and opens the door for all sorts of personal/home security issues.

I think the next equation sums things up rather well;

XboxOne=EpicFail

End of Line...


RE: has it really?
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RE: has it really?
By Mitch101 on 7/11/2013 11:19:57 AM , Rating: 1
Well Prior to the retraction Microsoft was looking to allow you to play co-op in games even if the second person didn't own the game. Now both require a disc to play.

Microsoft also closed the gap in the graphics performance as well by being able to increase the ES RAM Memory bandwidth by 88%
http://www.360crunch.net/forum/threads/4564-Xbox-O...

Aside from gaming The Xbox One and live TV -- here's what to expect
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/19/xbox-one-live-t...
For Fantasy football it will display the game and your fantasy football stats live on the screen at the same time.

While you may not like Kinect its a massive hit especially with Dance titles and I love the idea of calling the play snapping the football myself looking left/right and either throwing or handing off the football myself. That sounds like much more fun than mashing buttons. The New Kinect is also able to measure your heart rate making it an excellent fitness tool.

The new Xbox One Kinect tracks your heart rate, happiness, hands and hollers
http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/2013/05/22/the-new...

The new Kinect is also so accurate that it can pinpoint not just joints but also joint rotations. This allows it to see which direction you’re bending an arm, for instance. Going a step further, it can now track muscle tension based on body models. This means that it can interpret the amount of force being applied to both your body and say, a surface like the floor. This also allows Kinect to track the speed and violence of movements like punches and kicks. The audio capabilities of the new Kinect were also demonstrated, showing how it could filter out a crush of game and room noise to pick out voice commands. In a mind blowing demo, the Kinect then switched to a mode in which it monitored the heart rate of a person standing in front of it using the color cameras to measure how flush the skin was and the infrared cameras to track blood flow underneath the skin. This could ostensibly allow a developer to determine whether a user was scared, or even lying, and could also have health monitoring implications. Then things started to get super freaky. A demo was run that showed the faces of people standing in front of the sensor. The Kinect was able to not only detect which controllers they were holding (player 1, player 2 etc), but also exactly who they were and whether they were happy, sad or neutral. This was done using imagery of the face to see whether they were smiling or frowning. It was pretty wild.

Im probably at some point going to own both consoles however I see the PS4 as beefed up graphics PS3 and the X-Box one as seriously next generation or taking games and media to the next level console. I wanna do more than play games I want to be IN THEM and I want that extra touch on Video Content.

XBOX one's mantra should be "BE IN THE GAME not on the sidelines mashing buttons"


RE: has it really?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: has it really?
By retrospooty on 7/11/2013 12:06:52 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... Yup. Every bit as bad as Tony, only for MS.


RE: has it really?
By maugrimtr on 7/15/2013 5:25:08 AM , Rating: 2
And bigoted to boot...


RE: has it really?
By Mitch101 on 7/12/2013 9:23:17 AM , Rating: 1
Good because that's what I want out of games Immersion instead of mashing buttons. Its why I play PC games with triple monitors because I want that expanded view. Its why I want theaters to be like Disney where I can look around especially in items like star wars or the avengers. Its time to beyond the joypad and screen.

Your Samsuck checks clear yet?


RE: has it really?
By Reclaimer77 on 7/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: has it really?
By Mitch101 on 7/12/2013 3:41:34 PM , Rating: 2
Thats more of a Wii Title.

Just like your posts used to until Samsuck got caught paying shills.


RE: has it really?
By GulWestfale on 7/11/2013 11:51:49 AM , Rating: 2
kinect is creepy. it will spy on you and who is in your living room, and since MS is a US company, the NSA will record all that stuff, since it is transmitted over the internet and MS will just hand over your data to them.

on top of that, the bandwidth is actually the xbox' second major drawback (the first being graphics). the system simply does not have nearly as much bandwidth as the PS4, and that is that. no marketing BS can change that.

oh, and if i wanted to throw a football... well, i'd go OUTSIDE AND DO IT. you know, OUTDOORS, where there are no subscription fees or ads? yet...


RE: has it really?
By acer905 on 7/11/13, Rating: -1
RE: has it really?
By Mitch101 on 7/12/2013 9:40:28 AM , Rating: 2
Unless your a super model I don't think anyone will be interested. I have Kinect in my living room now if they want to watch me scratch myself go ahead. The wife is worth looking at but being its in the living room and I have kids nothing happens there that's worth watching.


RE: has it really?
By jnemesh on 7/15/2013 1:45:23 PM , Rating: 2
This is EXACTLY how the NSA wants us to react to it's overreaching surveillance. No one cared about Germany's surveillance practices either...until they started rounding up people for the concentration camps! WAKE UP!


RE: has it really?
By Morvannec on 7/11/2013 1:56:40 PM , Rating: 2
If Kinect is going after a "be in the game" feeling I'm afraid it will be surpassed by this: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1944625487/omn...

Although I accept that the Omni is probably not something mother/wife would be that happy about having in the living room (until they try it).


RE: has it really?
By Mitch101 on 7/12/2013 9:37:45 AM , Rating: 2
That's pretty cool one can only hope it works the way it appears to. Hopefully someone with deep pockets buys then out Ive seen a lot of promise on kickstarter items that due to whatever reason management/development/resources fall short of the goal. OUYA for one.


RE: has it really?
By nikon133 on 7/11/2013 6:24:24 PM , Rating: 3
MS claims they have closed memory speed gap, but I have a strong feel that scenario described on site you have linked is the best possible theoretical scenario for MS, which is hardly going to be an average scenario. However you turn it, it looks like PS4 will be easier to optimize for, while XBO's complex memory setup will require some serious tinkering to get most out of - if possible at all in every situation. Almost reminds me of PS3's CELL processor shenanigans.

In addition, my understanding is that, beside faster memory, PS4 graphics hardware is also faster than XBO's. Unless info I was reading turned out not to be valid?


RE: has it really?
By Mitch101 on 7/12/13, Rating: -1
RE: has it really?
By freedom4556 on 7/11/2013 6:56:55 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Microsoft also closed the gap in the graphics performance as well by being able to increase the ES RAM Memory bandwidth by 88%
This is just a lie and not in your source.
Your source says:
quote:
133GB/s throughput has been achieved with alpha transparency blending operations (FP16 x4)
However it also says:
quote:
the original bandwidth claim derives from a pretty basic calculation - 128 bytes per block multiplied by the GPU speed of 800MHz offers up the previous max throughput of 102.4GB/s. It's believed that this calculation remains true for separate read/write operations from and to the ESRAM
Which means it's still:
quote:
a peak theoretical throughput of 102GB/s - useful, but still some way behind the 176GB/s found in PlayStation 4's RAM set-up
except in the select case your source brought up. The PS4 is still 33% faster in shader performance due to a higher shader count, and fundamentally:
quote:
To the best of their knowledge, 800MHz remains the clock speed of the graphics component of the processor, and the main CPU is operating at the target 1.6GHz. In both respects, this represents parity with the PlayStation 4.
You must think we're illiterate.


RE: has it really?
By Mitch101 on 7/12/2013 9:51:07 AM , Rating: 3
I noticed you decided to skim over this detail

This chart showing the PS4 peaking at 176gb/s compared to the early XB1 devkits running at 102gb/s is no longer true, as now Microsoft claims they been able to boost the speed of the ESRAM in production consoles (the ones you going to buy this holiday season) and the top speed in theory is now 192gb/s, making the XB1 now faster with its cheaper/slower DDR3 then the PS4 with its direct (no embedded cache to help it out) and more costly GDDR5 but normally faster.

But lets just wait for a game that you think cant be done on the Xbox-1 because it lacks the power because it wont exist. The developer will drop some insignificant eye candy nobody will care about and the game will play fine on either console.


RE: has it really?
By nikon133 on 7/11/2013 6:03:51 PM , Rating: 2
... and exclusives, of course.


"If you can find a PS3 anywhere in North America that's been on shelves for more than five minutes, I'll give you 1,200 bucks for it." -- SCEA President Jack Tretton














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