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Microsoft wants to get Windows XP below 10% by April 2014

Microsoft has hatched a plan to get resellers to help wean customers off Windows XP by April 2014. Windows XP currently holds the second largest percentage of the computer operating system market right below Windows 7. According to Net Applications, Windows XP holds 37.17% of the operating system market while Windows 7 holds 44.37%.

Microsoft is reminding resellers and customers that there is less than a year left until all support for Windows XP is stopped. On April 8, 2014, Windows XP will no longer receive patches or updates including critical security updates. Moving consumers from Windows XP to a newer version of Windows is reportedly one of Microsoft's top priorities for its fiscal 2014, which began on July 1.


That could be a tall order for Microsoft since the software giant and its partners would reportedly need to migrate 586,000 computers per day over the next 273 days to eliminate all machines running Windows XP.

Microsoft is rolling out several programs, offers, and tools to encourage users to leave Windows XP behind. Those programs include Accelerate where Microsoft will pay some reseller and integrator partners to create a proof of concept Metro-style apps to help lure customers to Windows 8. Microsoft is also going to extend the program call Get to Modern aimed at small and medium businesses.
 
It was reported earlier this month that Windows 8 market share just finally crept ahead of the unloved Windows Vista operating system.

Source: ZDNet



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RE: Updating to Win 7
By Motoman on 7/10/2013 10:08:20 AM , Rating: 2
It's not necessarily even just 32-bit vs. 64-bit...there are XP applications that don't run on 32-bit Win7, for whatever reasons...probably calling old libraries and whatnot that don't exist anymore.

And believe it or not, there's still companies that rely on some old DOS applications...that will run on XP, but nothing newer. Or they might be reliant on some old hardware, for which there are no drivers made past XP. And I don't mean like a bog-standard parallel port printer necessarily.

At the end of the day, the irrepressible fact of the matter is that there's nothing "wrong" with XP. Sure, you can make it suck...if you're an idiot. But idiots can make any OS suck. The *vast* majority of users aren't going to gain anything that's useful to them by leaving XP and going to anything newer.

...so an awful lot of people/companies are going to just run on XP until something happens that's so bad that they just simply *have* to move in order to survive.


RE: Updating to Win 7
By epobirs on 7/10/2013 11:36:19 PM , Rating: 2
There are several major reasons some software fails on Windows versions after XP.

16-bit installers. An absurd number of companies sold 32-bit upgrades of their products while keeping the same installer they bought a decade ago, and kept using it for years to follow. 16-bit support goes away and you can't install the software anymore.

Illegal registry usage. Intuit was a huge offender in this area. Back when XP first shipped, Microsoft released a book of developer guidelines, with the promise that software that played by the rules should still work for many years. But these were guide lines and not enforced laws, so a lot of developers just did whatever they found convenient. Such as using the registry in way that Microsoft always warned against because it greatly increased the probability of an error mangling the registry.

Now, plenty of other operating systems would never have allowed such behavior but those tended to be products that started on big machines and worked their way down as small machines became more capable, the opposite of the anything goes world where Microsoft got its start. But by the time Vista was in development they knew they'd made a big mistake not having the OS better protect itself against Stupid Developer Tricks. So Vista started a new policy of enforcing rule that had previously been merely recommendations.

All well and good and long overdue. But a crapload of stuff didn't play by the rules and a lot of it was vertical apps with few competitors and critical to the businesses that used it. I know of one medical app that single handedly kept thousands of small businesses, which relied on it for Medicare billing that makes up over 80% of their revenue, from buying new machines with an OS more recent than XP. A few have used XP Mode on Windows 7 but most are highly budget constrained, so they tend to think of a $200 refurb as a new machine for their users.

Badly written software has been a goldmine for the refurb outfits that can supply 'new' XP systems.


RE: Updating to Win 7
By morfraen on 7/11/2013 5:44:22 AM , Rating: 2
You don't need DOS to run DOS applications. You don't need a 16 or 32bit OS to run 16 or 32 bit applications. You don't even need ISA or parallel or any other legacy ports on a new PC if 1 end of the connection simply can't be changed.

Once security updates stop running XP will become an even bigger liability than it already is.

These companies need to think in terms of replacing the functionality of a system rather than insisting on carrying forward so much ancient legacy hardware and software. When you add up maintenance, lost productivity and everything else, staying with the legacy systems is probably much more expensive than tossing it all and joining the modern age.


RE: Updating to Win 7
By JediJeb on 7/11/2013 2:02:16 PM , Rating: 2
This may hold true for an office running word processors and spread sheets and such. Do you know of any adapter that can allow an ISA slot HPIB cable interface to work with a modern computer? Or how to make software that will refuse to install on anything above XP SP2 to install on W7?

I work in a small laboratory where we watch every penny we spend, and we are now having to trash hundreds of thousands of machines that work perfectly even though they are old just because we can not afford to have the computer they are attached to fail unexpectedly. The three we replaced last fall were $75k each for new ones, and the only problem with the ones they replaced was they were attached to one 400mhz PII running WinNT4 with an ISA interface.

The new systems are running on new computers with W7, core i5 processors and literally we have no gained productivity coming from the faster more modern computer. It still takes 30 minutes for the machine to analyze a sample and 5 seconds to calculate the results(well maybe we gain a second on the calculation step, but most of that happens at night while no one is here).

As far as security updates are concerned, nothing gained for us there either, these machines (NT, 2K, 95, W7) all run with updates turned off because an update can stop them from functioning. We had to scrap one computer once when it updated from XP SP2 to SP3 and load the software on another SP2 computer we had. Also if the computers are not tied to the internet and there is physical security in place to control who has access to the computer how is it going to be compromised if it doesn't have security updates?

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When you add up maintenance, lost productivity and everything else, staying with the legacy systems is probably much more expensive than tossing it all and joining the modern age.


Not when upgrading one computer costs us 3 X $75K. That would require a heck of a lot of gained productivity to recoup, and as far as maintenance on that computer, dusting it off once in a while and a defrag once a year doesn't cost much, which is about the only maintenance it had done to it in over ten years.


RE: Updating to Win 7
By Hairyfeet on 7/11/2013 6:01:59 PM , Rating: 2
Uhhh...if you guys are watching every penny why didn't you just get some NOS systems to back up the Pentium II? I have a lumber company with a $80K+ lathe that only runs on DOS 3 with an ISA card, i built them 2 PIIs using NOS parts (if you look there are plenty of places that sell NOS where they replace the caps and make the boards as new, they can be as high as $400 depending on the board but $400 is a heck of a lot less than $75K) and two spares for those in a climate controlled closet in the front office so i have NO doubt it'll keep on going as long as the lathe will.

So if you really want to save those systems look into NOS, its really not hard to isolate them from the outside world with a VLAN and if you are running a lab its not like they need net access anyway,right?


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