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Microsoft wants to get Windows XP below 10% by April 2014

Microsoft has hatched a plan to get resellers to help wean customers off Windows XP by April 2014. Windows XP currently holds the second largest percentage of the computer operating system market right below Windows 7. According to Net Applications, Windows XP holds 37.17% of the operating system market while Windows 7 holds 44.37%.

Microsoft is reminding resellers and customers that there is less than a year left until all support for Windows XP is stopped. On April 8, 2014, Windows XP will no longer receive patches or updates including critical security updates. Moving consumers from Windows XP to a newer version of Windows is reportedly one of Microsoft's top priorities for its fiscal 2014, which began on July 1.


That could be a tall order for Microsoft since the software giant and its partners would reportedly need to migrate 586,000 computers per day over the next 273 days to eliminate all machines running Windows XP.

Microsoft is rolling out several programs, offers, and tools to encourage users to leave Windows XP behind. Those programs include Accelerate where Microsoft will pay some reseller and integrator partners to create a proof of concept Metro-style apps to help lure customers to Windows 8. Microsoft is also going to extend the program call Get to Modern aimed at small and medium businesses.
 
It was reported earlier this month that Windows 8 market share just finally crept ahead of the unloved Windows Vista operating system.

Source: ZDNet



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Make Windows 7 free
By quiksilvr on 7/10/2013 9:29:48 AM , Rating: 1
If you want to push people from old software, make it free to upgrade. I guarantee you that will make XP drop out of existence.




RE: Make Windows 7 free
By luv2liv on 7/10/2013 9:41:39 AM , Rating: 3
dont fix if it aint broken.
im still using MS Office 97 and it's working fine fyi


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By KC7SWH on 7/10/2013 9:53:37 AM , Rating: 2
Unless you're the government then fix it until it is broken. :(
We have 5 computers at work using XP and all would need a memory upgrade to run Windows 7.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By edge929 on 7/10/2013 10:48:03 AM , Rating: 2
I remember running XP on 128MB of RAM and thinking it was fine. At 256MB I was cooking with gas. Windows 7 on anything less than 2GB, "you're gonna have a bad time". For basic internet boxes I build for family, I put in at least 4GB for Windows 7 if I need to keep it as cheap as possible.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By Motoman on 7/10/2013 1:02:26 PM , Rating: 2
The good news is that RAM is unbelieveably cheap these days. 4Gb for $35 or so.

The bad news is that if you had 1,000 PCs that needed to get a 4Gb upgrade, that's still $35,000.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By Solandri on 7/10/2013 1:34:23 PM , Rating: 2
RAM for older computers generally remains the same price it was at when it was discontinued. For Core era machines, this means about $20-$40 for 1 GB. It's silly enough that I keep a stash of old memory modules I've scavenged from systems being thrown away, to use when I occasionally run across a client who insists on upgrading his old system. I usually recommend people just buy a new computer instead of trying to upgrade something that old.

When XP was current, 128 MB was usable (about equivalent to 2 GB on Win7), and 256 MB was comfortable (about equivalent to 4 GB on Win7). 512 MB was luxurious (about equivalent to 8 GB on Win7).

The problem with continuing to operate networked XP machines is that software has bloated in the last 10 years. Anti-virus software which stays resident in memory used to take 15 MB of RAM, which is not a problem if you have 256 MB. Today it consumes about 100 MB of RAM, making it a huge problem in 256 MB.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By Motoman on 7/10/2013 2:22:15 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
RAM for older computers generally remains the same price it was at when it was discontinued.


Or more likely gets more expensive. Go try to find some EDO RAM.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By Hairyfeet on 7/11/2013 6:26:06 PM , Rating: 2
Fraid you ain't looked at prices for SDRAM,DDR 1 and DDR 2 lately have you? The cost for discontinued RAM is pretty high unless you look into a pile somewhere and often all you'll find are the smaller chips, such as 256Mb and 512Mb DDR 1 being common and cheap while above 2Gb of DDR 2 per module and you're quickly looking at close to a c-note a pop for sticks.

Believe me friend I wish it were that easy, my gaming PC has 8GB of DDR 2 and I'd just love to max it out to 16GB but the cost of 4 4GB sticks of DDR 2 would be more than building an entire new system and just yanking my X6 sadly.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By Motoman on 7/12/2013 12:08:37 AM , Rating: 2
DDR2: $55 for 4Gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub...

DDR: $38 for 2Gb
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Sub...

Cheap.

Don't whine at me about RAM prices. I bought a 64Mb (megabyte) stick once for about $500.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By xti on 7/10/2013 10:56:37 AM , Rating: 2
excel pivot tables are lacking in 97 :)


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By Motoman on 7/10/2013 6:37:57 PM , Rating: 2
...and 99.9999% of all Excel users don't even know what pivot tables are, let alone want or need them.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By JediJeb on 7/11/2013 2:10:02 PM , Rating: 2
I use excel everyday and honestly can't tell you what a pivot table is.

We do sums, averages, standard deviations, and some plotting, what more do you need to do?


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By DesertCat on 7/10/2013 10:33:00 AM , Rating: 2
The problem with free upgrades is that you still run into hardware limitations of when the machine first came out. My parents have a ~2001-2002 laptop that they only really use in hotels and libraries when traveling. Well... at that point in time Intel saw fit to limit many of their machines to a maximum memory of 512 MB. You just can't raise it any higher. If a person keeps a relatively lean WinXP install without lots of crap, 512 MB is still adequate. A very bare minimum memory for Vista is probably around 1.5 GB, Win7 is about 1 GB, and Win8 is listed as 1GB minimum. So... no upgrade path.

Of course their machine is ancient and really should be replaced, it is just hard to convince them with their modest use of the laptop. It is also one of the most likely computers to be impacted if Microsoft stops the security updates since it is largely used for internet access. For those machines that are used simply to control equipment, it seems much less of an issue since it is largely a stand alone device.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By MrBungle123 on 7/10/2013 11:36:15 AM , Rating: 2
is a computer from from the early 2000's even fast enough to handle the flash on most web pages these days? When cell phones start out running your PC it is way past time to replace it.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By Solandri on 7/10/2013 1:42:30 PM , Rating: 2
Flash generally isn't a problem. Video is. YouTube videos from then were 240p, so were easy to render in software. But a 1080p or even 720p video is impossible for the CPU to decode by itself.

Most of the Core-era laptops have video cards which (with some digging and finangling) can do enough hardware acceleration to make 720p passable (1080p is usually too much). But it's a lost cause on most of the P4 and P Mobile systems.

For the OP's case of parents using a laptop just to web browse and email while traveling, I'd recommend replacing it with a tablet. B&N is blowing out their Nook HD/HD+ right now. You can pick up a 9" HD+ for $149. The default skin is ok but a bit laggy in the browser. Upgrade to CM 10.1 and the thing flies. If they insist on a real keyboard, you can add a bluetooth keyboard for $20.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By quiksilvr on 7/10/2013 11:57:33 AM , Rating: 2
I was able to get Windows 7 to work just fine on a Pentium 4 with 2GB of RAM. It wasn't perfect but it ran smoother than XP (and was far more secure).


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By drycrust3 on 7/10/2013 12:03:23 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
My parents have a ~2001-2002 laptop that they only really use in hotels and libraries when traveling. Well... at that point in time Intel saw fit to limit many of their machines to a maximum memory of 512 MB. You just can't raise it any higher.

Well, look around for one of the Linux distributions, e.g. PCLinux OS, Mageia, that would suit their needs, make up a CD, and install it on a spare PC, and let them have a play with it to see if they like it. Maybe you could wean them off Windows completely.
Here is the link to DistroWatch, which has a list of most Linux and BSD distributions:
http://distrowatch.com/


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By Hairyfeet on 7/11/2013 6:32:53 PM , Rating: 2
Sad;ly if he really wants that thing to fly Linux won't cut it as its getting as bloated as Windows anymore, what he needs is the pirated "gamer version" of Windows that has been floating around the net for awhile...Tiny7.

a friend of mine sent me a copy to play with and its scary how fast that thing is on truly ancient hardware, it runs REAL nice on a late model P-III with 512MB of RAM, quick to respond, everything loads quickly, why MSFT don't hire those guys to make lite editions for older hardware I'll never know because their Tiny versions (ironically the most bloated is Tiny Vista, they are hackers not miracle workers) honestly just blows away both WinFLP and Windows Embedded pretty badly.

Of course you can use your own license with it so it's just a "pre-slimmed" version but its just crazy how fast they were able to make Windows 7 by cutting out the bling bling and extra cruft.


RE: Make Windows 7 free
By morfraen on 7/11/2013 5:47:21 AM , Rating: 2
A computer that ancient can be replaced for free at any computer recycling center or curbside on garbage day. Or for $100-$300 they could get something that is actually usable.


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