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Image quality appears very good in sample shots

Nokia Oyj.'s (HEX:NOK1V) upcoming flagship phone will be officially unveiled Thursday.  Partner Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) may have blown the surprise, though, when Windows Phone manager Joe Belfiore posted photos dubbed "Lumia 1020" to his Flickr account.  The photo has since been removed, but the tag is still there lingering around.

Okay, so technically the blogosphere already new that Nokia's upcoming PureView camera phone was expected to be dubbed the Lumia 1020.  But as The Verge points out, the pictures do offer up some interesting new information.  

They indicate that the massive sensor will generally shoot in 2947 x 1658 resolution (nearly 5-megapixels) or 2352 x 1568 (3.7-megapixels), rather than the 41 megapixel resolution the original Symbian PureView phone (the Nokia 808) shot in.  Camera buffs will recognize this is a good thing, as pixel size is important to image quality.

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Joey Belfiore poses for a pic from the Lumia 1020 which he mentions on Flickr (whoops).
[Image Source: Joey Belfiore via Flickr via The Verge]

While it's unclear whether the Nokia shooter will include freeze-frame/stop-action rapid shooting like HTC Corp.'s (TPE:2498) One smartphone, it is expected to blow away both the One and Apple, Inc. (AAPL) iPhone 5 in image quality.

The Lumia 1020 is expected to pack a large bar-style xenon flash, which few smartphones have and have a 1/1.2" second-generation PureView sensor.  That sensor is bigger than most point and shoot cameras and several times the size of the sensor found in the iPhone 5 or One.  That huge sensor is coupled with Carl Zeiss optics to let in plenty of light.

The onboard camera is also expected to have Nokia's floating lens technology, which helps focus and color depth.  And reported it will add an adjustable aperture and manual shutter -- firsts for a smartphone.  Those improvements could put the super-shooter on level with high-end point and shoot cameras, albeit without the optical zoom.

Again the only gripes/unknowns are whether the camera app will be capable of automatic high-dynamic-range (HDR) imaging and whether stop-frame picture selection will be available.
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The Nokia "PureView" Lumia 1020 (click to enlarge) [Image Source: EVLeaks]

For those complaining about battery life on the Lumia, Nokia may have an answer -- it's reportedly prepping a special accessory for Thursday that doubles as an expansion battery, a camera grip, and a bit of protective casing for the device.  Sounds pretty clever.

Little is known about the hardware spec outside the speculation, although the phone is expected to have an OLED display (like the Lumia 925).  We'll have to wait till Thursday to find out about the rest of the spec.

Sources: Flickr, The Verge

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RE: Not surprised here
By BRB29 on 7/9/2013 8:17:35 AM , Rating: -1
Yea, then you must not know how to read the important parts.

Essentially, what I've aimed to do in this article is to provide an overview of the Nokia 808 PureView as a camera, rather than as a phone, with the emphasis mainly on its still image quality. But it's not quite that simple, since inevitably, I'm judging the 808's camera in the context of its inclusion in a phone. With this in mind, considering the 808 is still a phone first and a camera second...

and it sucks as a phone.

There are inexpensive compact cameras that offer more photographer-friendly features than the 808, but as a cameraphone, the Nokia blows its competition out of the water, and significantly narrows the gap between dedicated cameras and portable communications devices to the point where ultimate convergence seems all but inevitable (and probably sooner than some commentators had realised).

DPReview said the exact same thing I said. Much better camera in a phone than their competitors. Still does not beat a dedicated camera(not counting cheap POS P&S)

I don't know where people get this "the 808 only lose to the RX100". No, the RX100 blows it out of the water. A lot of P&S will beat the 808 without the need for excessive 38/41MP.

Here's a bunch of compact cameras that will beat it
Pentax MX-1
All Sony RX1...series
Fuji Finepix F800EXR
Samsung MV900F
All the new Canon Powershot ELPH series
All the new Sony Cybershot WX series
All the new Canon Powershot SX series
Nikon Coolpix S4300

Seriously, anything not made to be cheap is better than the 808. We don't need to get anywhere close to DSLR.

The is a phone first and it's a bad one. It's bulky, slow hardware, and it's expensive. The camera is a great as a P&S replacement but what's the point of carrying around a bad phone for a good camera when it's $699?

I want a good camera in my phone and so does everyone else. But I use the smartphone part 95+% of the time because that is the primary use. The secondary part of the 808 is excellent but it forces the primary part to be ineffective due to the bigger size and higher price.

If you ever find that you use the camera part 50% of the time then this 808 is useless since you will be running for the wall all day and you will lose your smartphone capability. You might as well carry a dedicated camera by then.

They need to scale this camera down in size to make it more practical in a smartphone. Until then, it won't enjoy any sales success.

RE: Not surprised here
By chripuck on 7/9/2013 11:25:21 AM , Rating: 3
You are so incredibly dense... here, I'll spell out his points in very simple English.

-The 808 or the 1020 is not as good as a good P&S.
-Most people do not carry around both a P&S and a smartphone.
-For a smartphone, this camera is truly spectacular.

He's not arguing whether it's a better phone than the competition, he's not arguing that it's a better camera than good P&S, Micro 4/3 or DSLRs, he's not arguing that it will sell well. You never even made those points, he was replying to your statement that the 41 MP was a gimmick, which it is not.

RE: Not surprised here
By CaedenV on 7/9/2013 1:24:36 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. Lets keep in mind that the 808 was built primarily as a pocket camera with phone capability. Meanwhile the 1020 looks to be a Lumia 920 with a nice camera added on. The Lumia 920 is a great phone already (it is what I use), and adding the 41MP camera to it seems like a nice addition. Comparing the phone features of the 1020 to the old 808 is silly. We are talking about different hardware, different operating system, and nearly 2 extra years of development. Rather let's compare the phone features to the 920 which has the exact same hardware and software, and only compare the camera to the 808 while keeping in mind that the 1020 should have a more mature sensor, possibly better lenses, and will definitely have OIS added which was sorely lacking in the 808.
I don't think that the 1020 brings enough to the table for me to replace my 8 month old 920, but the 41MP camera is hardly the gimmick I thought it was when I first heard about the 808. It will definitely be a requirement for my next phone, be it this Christmas, or next year when my contract expires.

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