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Duo hopes to commercialize fuel cell technology by 2020

GM and Honda have announced a long-term definitive “master agreement” to co-develop fuel cell system technology and hydrogen storage technologies with the goal of commercializing products within the 2020 timeframe.

The two automakers believe that by sharing expertise and economies of scale they can bring the technology to market. GM and Honda also plan to work with other stakeholders to advance the hydrogen refueling infrastructure that is critical for the viability of fuel cell powered vehicles.
 
Honda and GM together hold more than 1,200 hydrogen fuel cell-related patents between them.


General Motors Vice Chairman Steve Girsky (L) and Honda North America President Tetsuo Iwamura (R)

“This collaboration builds upon Honda and GM’s strengths as leaders in hydrogen fuel cell technology,” said Dan Akerson, GM chairman and CEO. “We are convinced this is the best way to develop this important technology, which has the potential to help reduce the dependence on petroleum and establish sustainable mobility.”
 
GM and Honda also point out that fuel cell vehicles have a range of up to 400 miles, need only about 3 minutes to refuel, and the propulsion system can be used in small, medium, and large vehicles.

GM has been working with hydrogen fuel cell-powered extensively over the past decade and launched Project Driveway in 2007. That project has a fleet of 119 hydrogen-powered vehicles that have accumulated about 3,000,000 miles of real-world driving. Honda began leasing the Honda FCX in 2002 and has 85 units in use in the U.S. and Japan, including the FCX Clarity.

Honda also plans to launch a hydrogen fuel cell-powered successor to the FCX Clarity in the Japan and the U.S. in 2015 (the vehicle will hit Europe at a later date). 

Source: GM



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LOL - fuel cell
By bigi on 7/3/2013 7:58:43 AM , Rating: -1
This is dead before it even started. Waste of time and money.




RE: LOL - fuel cell
By techxx on 7/3/2013 8:08:35 AM , Rating: 2
What do you know that the heads of 2 automakers don't?


RE: LOL - fuel cell
By OnyxNite on 7/3/2013 10:35:48 AM , Rating: 2
Well I don't know about Honda but GM is Government Motors and I bet a lot of their involvement is because of the current administrations green agenda and has nothing to do with the actual viability of fuel cells.


RE: LOL - fuel cell
By Nutzo on 7/3/2013 10:43:46 AM , Rating: 2
It's more what the companies are not telling you.

They are mainly doing this because of all the government money that will be flowing thier way, not because they expect to actually make money by selling these products.


RE: LOL - fuel cell
By othercents on 7/3/2013 8:28:43 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
This is dead before it even started. Waste of time and money.

The only reason why new technology would be "dead" is due to the infrastructure. However with two automakers coming together to build the infrastructure to make it sustainable, then this could be a better alternative than electric. Overall this technology should reduce the cost of vehicles compared to electric and hybrid, and should also reduce the carbon foot print including all the negatives about electric energy coming from polluting plants and batteries being made from toxic materials.

There is currently no clear winner in the quest to reduce our dependency on oil and reduce the carbon footprint. GM doesn't even know which technology to go with. They have ECOTEC, Hybrid, Electric, Diesel, and now Fuel Cell.

However, owning all the patents and creating the infrastructure does provide some financial benefits for a company in the future.

Other


RE: LOL - fuel cell
By Mint on 7/4/2013 1:59:53 PM , Rating: 2
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Overall this technology should reduce the cost of vehicles compared to electric and hybrid, and should also reduce the carbon foot print including all the negatives about electric energy coming from polluting plants and batteries being made from toxic materials.
LOL where do you think hydrogen comes from?

With electrolysis, you have major losses so electricity -> H2 -> fuel cell -> electricity needs over twice as much power from "polluting plants" than going through a battery instead. If you use green energy for electrolysis, then you can use green energy for charging a battery.

With steam reforming, methane -> H2 -> fuel cell -> electricity has no better carbon footprint (due to energy loss at each stage) than using natural gas for electricity generation and going through a battery. Alternatively, you can use CNG directly to power vehicles, and it has a leg up on infrastructure already.

Hydrogen is nothing more than an energy middleman, creating extra cost and/or inefficiency compared to alternatives.


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