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Samsung launches new portable and desktop computers

Samsung has announced that it has added some new computers to its ATIV lineup. The new machines include the ATIV Book 9 Plus, ATIV Book 9 Lite, and the ATIV One 5 Style. The 9 Plus is a premium PC with an aluminum unibody and a Windows 8 optimized touchscreen.

It features a 13.3-inch touchscreen display with a resolution of 3200 x 1800 and a battery promising 12 hours of use per charge thanks to Haswell technology. The machine promises to boot up from cold in less than 6 seconds and wake up from sleep mode in under 1 second.


The ATIV Book 9 Plus has processor options including an Intel Core i5 or i7 ULT. Graphics are handled by Intel HD Graphics 4400 and the machine can be fitted with a maximum of 8 GB of RAM. Storage is up to 256 GB via a SSD and it has an integrated 720p resolution web cam.

The ATIV Book 9 Lite is more of a mainstream computer that still features cutting-edge technology and a 10-point multi-touch screen. It has a 13.3-inch screen with a resolution of 1366 x 768. That screen supports touch input and the quad-core processor runs at up to 1.4 GHz. It can be fitted with 4 GB of RAM and up to 256 GB of storage. The battery promises 8.5 hours of use per charge.


The Samsung ATIV One 5 Style is a desktop all-in-one PC featuring the GALAXY design aesthetic. It features a 21.5-inch full HD resolution 1920 x 1080 touchscreen and is the first all-in-one launched since the ATIV brand expanded. The machine uses an AMD A6 quad-core processor paired with 4 GB of RAM. The machine has up to 1 TB of storage space and an integrated web cam.


Pricing and availability on all of the new ATIV computers is unknown at this time.

Source: Samsung



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RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By SAN-Man on 6/21/2013 9:28:21 AM , Rating: 1
I disagree that most people won't care, tell all those people buying Mac Book Pros that.

Also, I was not referring to the Lite but the Plus.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By B3an on 6/21/2013 9:58:08 AM , Rating: 2
Why would you want AMD? Lol. I'd MUCH rather have the way longer battery life from Haswell. It's GPU will easily cope with anything but games. This isn't for gaming anyway.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By SAN-Man on 6/21/13, Rating: -1
RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By retrospooty on 6/21/2013 10:39:16 AM , Rating: 4
Either is plenty sufficient unless you are gaming or doing graphics work... If you were doing either of those, the built in GPU's suck, so you should buy something with a discreet card that suits what you are doing no?


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By SAN-Man on 6/21/13, Rating: -1
RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By Mint on 6/21/2013 12:37:37 PM , Rating: 2
If you don't game or do graphics work, I'm calling BS on your assertion that HD 4000 is responsible for making it "not fun".

Whatever issues you have with your notebook are unrelated to GPU speed.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By SAN-Man on 6/21/13, Rating: -1
RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By ritualm on 6/21/2013 5:00:24 PM , Rating: 2
I don't have problems with the HD4000 in Ivy Bridge, and I've been using just that REGULARLY and DAILY on my 1800v laptop, running the full 1800v.

I am also, unlike you with your 20 years of IT experience, acutely aware what it's like to be an early adopter. You take existing tech and use it to run stuff nobody in the entire industry has done before, of course you're going to have problems.

Pot calling the kettle black, how cute.


By SAN-Man on 6/27/2013 5:11:47 PM , Rating: 2
You claiming something and posting it online doesn't make it true and your use of the kettle metaphor indicates that you're brain could be deficient.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By ritualm on 6/21/2013 3:08:49 PM , Rating: 2
Even with your use case scenarios, I still will not use an AMD APU, and this is why.

Performance.
Power.
Price.

Pick two of three.

AMD can compete under the following:
- performance + price = FX-8350 getting equivalent CPU performance as i5-2500K, but do it cheaper. However, you pay more on net power consumption.
- power + price = APUs perform at roughly half the CPU performance of i3's and i5's of the same tier, under the same TDP, for less money.

It never has anything that competes on performance + power, that is strictly Intel territory since Conroe and is paramount for any significant use in midrange-and-above laptops.

AMD needs to consume more power to deliver the same performance, or consume the same amount of power to deliver poor performance. Either proposition makes for a very hard sell in laptops. That is why AMD never has any laptop market penetration for its CPUs outside entry level (with APUs), where companies aim to cut costs wherever possible.

Until AMD has something RIGHT NOW that can beat an i7-4700MQ in both CPU and GPU performance, and do it all while being miserly in power consumption like most Haswell mobile chips of late, it's not going to win any converts, period. Because I'm not willing to spend $1,500+ on an everyday laptop that lasts for just 20-30 minutes off the wall.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By SAN-Man on 6/21/2013 3:14:59 PM , Rating: 2
Well that's certainly your opinion.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By ritualm on 6/21/2013 3:41:24 PM , Rating: 2
I have such a $1,500+ laptop as you do, and I use it as my primary computer i.e. work, gaming, everything in between. An AMD APU simply will not give the performance I need because it will consume too much power to get there.

Your opinion is worth less than you think.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By SAN-Man on 6/22/2013 10:37:16 AM , Rating: 2
Are you stupid? You don't understand what an opinion is I suppose


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By ritualm on 6/22/2013 1:21:09 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
Are you stupid? You don't understand what an opinion is I suppose

Says the guy who calls others stupid because they disagreed with him.

I posted this in DT's FX-9590 article:
quote:
AMD processors never make sense as soon as price is not a major deciding factor.

AMD APUs are great for penny pinchers. Not so much when you're willing to spend $1,500+ on an everyday laptop with a high-res display. In fact, AMD has completely abandoned the midrange and high-end laptop markets. Steamroller? AMD can't make a mobile version of it.

You are off the rocker to think their power-hungry APUs will magically make your high-res laptop better than anything Intel can cook up.


By SAN-Man on 6/27/2013 5:13:09 PM , Rating: 2
I asked if you WERE stupid as you displayed a clear lack of understanding of what an opinion is. Based on your response, I'd say the answer is yes.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By karimtemple on 6/21/2013 11:51:03 AM , Rating: 2
I think you'll see that dynamic officially shift once stuff starts coming out with Kaveri parts in them late this year.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By retrospooty on 6/21/2013 2:29:02 PM , Rating: 2
I think AMD has a recent history of overpromising and under delivering with their next gen products. The last time they didnt do that was the Athlon64/X2, and that was a long time ago.

I am not saying they cant, just that I will believe it when its released and independently reviewed.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By karimtemple on 6/21/2013 3:01:05 PM , Rating: 1
Overall, they've met every expectation they've set: 15% performance bump each generation, entry-level gaming without a dGPU, HSA advancements... I really wish I'd picked up some stock when they were at $2 a couple of months ago. I'm not sure what promises you're talking about, but from where I'm sitting their real problem is that they've delivered on promises that aren't ambitious.


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By retrospooty on 6/21/2013 3:53:19 PM , Rating: 2
You are looking at it after the fact when they already lowered expectations. With every single major chip released after the Athlon64/X2 they hyped it up and then just a few months prior to release, lowered the performance expectation and raised the thermal envelope. It's been pretty consistent.

Were you not around the year prior to Phenom?


RE: Awesome resolution. Crappy video.
By karimtemple on 6/21/2013 4:25:32 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe it's just that I don't pay attention to marketing. I always just look at design philosophy and operational measurements. I've never seen AMD make a misleading architecture diagram.

The true problem they've had is their engineering group has not been up to task or well-supported. Last year they finally started making hail-mary grabs at a direct solution, and it's probably going to pay off. AMD may not be a safe bet at the moment, but they're sure as hell an exciting investment risk.


By retrospooty on 6/21/2013 5:13:06 PM , Rating: 2
"Maybe it's just that I don't pay attention to marketing. I always just look at design philosophy and operational measurements. I've never seen AMD make a misleading architecture diagram."

Its not really them being misleading, or AMD marketing overhyping things... It's more like get to the end with the final silicon and find out it wont clock as high as expected, or there is an unforeseen power draw issue, or bug like with the Phenom that caused them to implement a bios workaround that limited performance substantially as explained by Wiki below... I like AMD, and I hope they knock it out of the park, but like I said I wont believe it until its released and reviewed, not prepublished specs and not engineering samples. Actual retail units reviewed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Phenom

"Before Phenom's original release a flaw was discovered in the translation lookaside buffer (TLB) that could cause a system lock-up in rare circumstances; Phenom processors up to and including stepping "B2" and "BA" are affected by this bug. BIOS and software workarounds disable the TLB, and typically incur a performance penalty of at least 10%.[3] This penalty was not accounted for in pre-release previews of Phenom, hence the performance of early Phenoms delivered to customers is expected to be less than the preview benchmarks"


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