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The new Honda Accord Hybrid is rated at 47 mpg combined

There's a battle brewing in the midsize car market. Midsize cars like the Accord and Camry have long been among the best-selling vehicles in America, but increased competition in recent years (thanks to redesigns of the Hyundai Sonata, Nissan Altima, and Ford Fusion) have led to an ever bigger boom in midsize car sales.
With that in mind, most of the major players have added hybrid models (or diesels) to their midsize offerings in order to boost fuel economy. Honda's last Accord Hybrid was a flop (it was positioned more towards performance than fuel economy), but the Japanese auto giant is looking to knock out a few of its competitors teeth with new 2014 Accord Hybrid.

The new Accord Hybrid, which is based on the ninth-generation Accord that launched last year, will get an estimated 49 mpg in the city and 45 mpg on the highway (47 mpg combined). Compared to its major competition, the Accord Hybrid more than holds its own:
Toyota Camry Hybrid: 43/39 (city/highway)
Hyundai Sonata Hybrid: 36/40
Ford Fusion Hybrid: 47/47
Chevrolet Malibu Eco: 25/37
Volkswagen Passat TDI (DSG): 30/40
Volkswagen Passat TDI (Manual): 31/43
The Accord Hybrid makes use of a 2.0-liter Atkinson-cycle 4-cylinder engine, a 124-kW electric motor and a lithium-ion battery pack. According to Honda, the electric motor can power the vehicle alone at low speeds and "medium to high speed cruising."

The Accord Hybrid will join the Accord Plug-in Hybrid in Honda's midsize lineup. Pricing hasn't yet been revealed for the Accord Hybrid, but we're guessing that it will be price competitive with the Camry Hybrid ($26,140 MSRP) and Fusion Hybrid ($27,200 MSRP).

Source: Honda

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RE: Data error??
By Brandon Hill on 6/21/2013 2:56:37 PM , Rating: 2
Hyundais in general have pretty darn good reliability. I was just an idiot and bought a brand new model (first year for the Sonata redesign) with a brand new, clean slate engine. That was a pretty dumb move on my part, but the CELs have been more of an annoyance than something that's really pissed me off. They haven't left me stranded.

As for regular unleaded with turbos, most of the new mainstream vehicles with turbos (Sonata/Optima 2.0ts, the V6 EcoBoost in the F-150, the 4-banger EcoBoosts in the Fusion, the 2.0T in the new Malibu etc. all run on regular and don't require premium).

RE: Data error??
By Spuke on 6/21/2013 3:18:53 PM , Rating: 2
My 07 Solstice (turbo with DI) doesn't require premium either but not running it results in a 40 hp deficit and in the hotter climates the engine may ping. I ran some 87 octane "experiments" and found that in the summer the engine would indeed ping a bit under moderate to heavy load. To me the $2.40 a week difference is not worth pinging and a 40hp loss. I can save that elsewhere.

RE: Data error??
By Brandon Hill on 6/22/2013 6:36:33 PM , Rating: 2
As far as I know, the Solstice recommends premium but will run on regular (at reduced power). The cars I mentioned were designed to run on regular and putting in premium will not net you any greater power/performance.

RE: Data error??
By Spuke on 6/22/2013 11:14:11 PM , Rating: 2
Went out and looked in the manual and, yep, it does recommend premium.

The cars I mentioned were designed to run on regular and putting in premium will not net you any greater power/performance.
You might want to double check that. I thought I remembered that Hyundai was only advertising the higher hp lower when run on premium gas. Those cars run less power on regular.

RE: Data error??
By BRB29 on 6/23/2013 6:34:49 PM , Rating: 2
Yes the Hyundai Genesis Coupe 2.0T power changes depending on what fuel you use. I think it was less about 10 hp difference.

RE: Data error??
By Brandon Hill on 6/24/2013 12:10:26 PM , Rating: 2
In the application specific to the Sonata and Optima, only regular is required. It says so in the manual, and the senior powertrain engineer even confirms it.

The engine is required to sip nothing more exotic than 87 octane fuel. That is, the 2.0T generates its 274 horsepower at 6,000 rpm and 269 pound-feet of torque from 1,750-4,500 rpm on the cheap stuff. Typically, elevated specific output and low octane are mutually exclusive, making this achievement worth talking about.

Timothy White, the Sonata's senior powertrain engineer, reckons that this requirement amplified the difficulty of balancing low-end throttle response with a lofty peak horsepower target. This is because boosted engines generate high cylinder pressures, increasing their propensity for pre-ignition (knocking), which in turn limits how much grunt you can safely produce at both ends of the torque curve.

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