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"Industry insiders" predict a possible Nintendo Wii launch in September or October

Nintendo‚Äôs Wii may be released earlier than expected if the latest reports are accurate.  Chris Morris, writer of CNN.com's Game Over column, has written an article about the possibility of the Nintendo Wii game console launching a month or two earlier than expected.  Although the Wii had been originally expected sometime in November, with no official release noted by Nintendo, Morris says a release in September or October is not unrealistic.  A June 21 analyst's note claims that Nintendo is already manufacturing Wii console units that are final retail units.  According to the editorial on CNN:

Indeed, the company appears to be already manufacturing final retail units of the Wii, according to a June 21st analyst's note from P.J. McNealy of American Technology Research. That would give it a significant head start over Sony, which has yet to begin final manufacturing of the PlayStation 3.  Microsoft's first Xbox 360 did not roll off the assembly line last year until 69 days before the on sale date of Nov. 22. (That late start in production is the root cause behind last holiday's shortages.)      

With the Microsoft Xbox 360 game console being the only next-generation console on the market today, gamers are anxiously awaiting console releases from Nintendo and Sony.  The $250 USD price tag alone has made the Wii an appealing console for many potential gamers.  Nintendo is hoping to have enough units in stock after the console is released to combat extremely low supplies that sometimes plague other console releases.



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Going all out for good games...
By clementlim on 7/6/2006 9:46:38 AM , Rating: 2
I have long considered Nintendo as a console for kids, cause majority of the games are for kids...or rather, it seems to be for kids. Now, the Wii seems to be more atractive than PS3...although I will ultimately get a PS3, in due time. But, I'm rather skeptical about the controller...anyway, early release of Wii could be a bad sign for PS3, IMHO.




RE: Going all out for good games...
By michal1980 on 7/6/06, Rating: -1
RE: Going all out for good games...
By Master Kenobi (blog) on 7/6/2006 10:10:16 AM , Rating: 3
They dont always have the best graphics, but the industry has proven time and again that graphics get outsold by good gameplay. Nintendo has a good track record of having genuinely fun games to play. I mean who didn't have fun with friends playing Smash bro's? Besides, high-def is overated anyways.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By MonkeyPaw on 7/6/2006 10:23:47 AM , Rating: 2
I logged countless hours of Super Mario Kart in high school and college. A group of us would have tournaments some nights.

I think the low price of Wii will have some appeal, and I think the old school game compatibility will be a big hit. A few of my friends have purchased vintage Ataris and as many games as they can find. They post thier high scores on a dry erase board, since the scores aren't saved by the console/game. No saved games or checkpoints either! These are people who can afford to buy any console they want, so Wii might sell well, if only for the nostalgia.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By dice1111 on 7/6/2006 11:28:19 AM , Rating: 2
For sure. I can't tell you how much fun it was playing Super Mario Party for drinks before my bro's and I went out to hit the club or a party. Even when The Guy Game came out for xbox, it didn't hold a candle to SMP in regards to competition and the amount you could put away.

Talk about Super Smashed Brothers. Haha! Good times.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By glennpratt on 7/6/2006 12:34:39 PM , Rating: 2
The Guy Game? The obvious choice here is Halo. At least it was for every college age guy I knew.


By dice1111 on 7/7/2006 3:52:53 PM , Rating: 2
You can't do shooters to halo... well, it would be tough.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By PurdueRy on 7/6/2006 10:17:06 AM , Rating: 2
Not all of us have HDTV's and with the future so uncertain about HD media, I am not sure I would even want to own a high def TV at this point. HDMI standards keep changing, HDCP is a big mystery and so on.

Hi-def is nice, but its important to note that very few people even have HDTV's, much less HDTV's that they hook their consoles up to.

How many times do you see the general public still using composite connections from their DVD player to their TV? How many people don't know how to properly hook up their setup for surround sound?

The public is not always on the cutting edge of technology. You need to learn that.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By MonkeyPaw on 7/6/2006 10:45:00 AM , Rating: 2
Well, consoles last for 5 years, and by then, more people will have HDTVs. We are talking about consoles here, too. My parents won't buy an HDTV, but they aren't going to buy a BluRay/HD-DVD player or game console either. So while there is a large audience out there that isn't on the cutting edge of technology, they also aren't the biggest group of people who buy game consoles. HDTVs are getting cheaper, and so it makes sense to aim a media/gaming device at the future of television, not the past. Besides, you can support HD and still support old technology at the same time. The 360 ships with a composite connector for people who just have YBW connections on their sets. Nintendo could have gone HD and not lost anyone.

Also, if someone can't figure out how to hook up a console, then they are going to really struggle at playing the games. HD has color-coded connectors, and all electronic devices ship with instructions.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By Xavian on 7/6/2006 2:31:59 PM , Rating: 2
actually i think you'll find most casuals and even up to 50% of 'hardcore' gamers do not have a HDTV set. Right now HD sets and things required to use them are way way too expensive.

The simple fact is HD isn't mainstream friendly yet, not even close. Considering the fiasco that is the HDCP/HDMI standards, plus those who were sold a HDTV set but cant play HD stuff (due to not having HDMI).

I expect that just by the end of the next console generation (just after the PS3, Wii, 360 generation), there will be enough people with HDTV sets to warrant HD on consoles. I can't help but feel that microsoft and sony simply launched HD a generation too early. The inevitable result for the PS3 is a gigantic system, thats probably going to overheat, crash, brake and not have all the features promised by sony (im talking from experience of all sony 1st generation console products, which quite frankly dont hold a candle to nintendo's quality control).

HD *IS* coming, however it is much too soon for consoles to integrate the technology as some 80% of the userbase wont have a HD set to appreciate the HD graphics.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By MonkeyPaw on 7/6/2006 4:12:10 PM , Rating: 2
Well, you have a catch-22 here. You can't help develop HD without HD hardware. The same is true for multi-threaded games, but both the 360 and the PS3 have multi-core CPUs. Considering that the cheapest Xbox360 is only $50 more than Wii, HD isn't really costing you all that much. Some kind of HD support is better than none at all. I'd much rather have games that can run at 720p/1080i instead of 480p/i. What HD standards should bring to consoles is higher-resolution games, not HD movie support. Sony is aiming bigger, and I guess we'll see how that goes.

Also, I hear that you will be able to view HD content without HDMI until 2010, I believe, which coincidently is when the next round of consoles should be due. Hopefully by then, all the HD standards will be figured out and widely available.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By Xavian on 7/7/2006 12:21:53 AM , Rating: 2
except the fact that the Wii is launching UNDER $250, historically they have launched for $200 for every console starting with the NES, which is some $100 cheaper then the cheapest xbox.

I dont see any reason why they would change now.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By Xavian on 7/7/2006 12:23:30 AM , Rating: 2
and HD will be costing me, because games designed for HD resolutions look utter crap on SD resolutions, really crap so consoles are forcing me to buy a new HDTV? i dont think so considering the massive cost involved here in the UK to own a HD TV.


By piroroadkill on 7/7/2006 5:26:11 AM , Rating: 2
No it isn't. Buy an old 21" CRT monitor from someone and a VGA cable for the Xbox 360.

Shit, run it through your existing monitor.


By Doormat on 7/6/2006 10:35:40 AM , Rating: 2
At least they plan on supporting widescreen - I have no problem with 480p especially for the types of games that end up on the Wii. Besides, if I want HD games I'll get a 360 in addition to a Wii.


RE: Going all out for good games...
By rushfan2006 on 7/6/2006 11:08:57 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
because we always remeber things as better as they were.


Forget games and technology, what an interesting statement. If that's really your view of life - that's a shame, seems like you miss out on a lot of good times -- "if you remember them as better than they actually were" as your statement implies.



By joex444 on 7/6/2006 3:25:42 PM , Rating: 2
not quite sure what you intended, but its a known psychological fact about human memory. people tend to block out the bad things. remove the bad parts about that family trip, and it seems like fun when you think of it now, though at the time you may have had to wait 3 hours in traffic, with hungry yelling kids hitting each other out of boredom...


Wii for meeee!
By UsernameX on 7/6/2006 10:43:25 AM , Rating: 2
While the Supernintendo was the last nintendo console that I purchased the Wii looks damn fine I must say. Affordable and fun to play. While it may not have the graphics of the future, as long as nintendo keeps the game play top notch... and throw out a few of those barney games, I will be on the bandwagon as well.

Although I am still definitely getting a PS3. The future of online games will change dramatically from what it was in the PS2 days. Think of something along the lines of MGS4 CO-OP or possibly a scenario where you are the enemy and your friend is snake trying to take you down. hmm... with people understanding coding more intimately... the cell processor will exceed that of the 360 or (obviously) the Wii. While it's more complex to code for... there are advantages to that.

Ok




RE: Wii for meeee!
By cnimativ on 7/6/2006 11:06:01 AM , Rating: 1
Future of online gaming will not be on the consoles. Wii perhaps (SMB or Mario Cart online!!!), but PS3/XBox's online games are seriously lacking.

It costs less to build a budget brand new PC ($500 or less) just for online gaming and web surfing than buying a PS3 or Xbox360.


RE: Wii for meeee!
By UsernameX on 7/6/2006 11:12:34 AM , Rating: 2
Sure you can build one for $500... but it certiantly wont do anything close to what the PS3 will be capable of. Atleast not right now. Maybe a $500 pc down (like 3-4 years from now) will change that... but as for now, PS3, hands down, has any 500-600 dollar PC beat. (in terms of games)


RE: Wii for meeee!
By cnimativ on 7/6/2006 11:32:31 AM , Rating: 1
World of Warcraft, CS, Guild Wars, etc, will probably not be ported to PS3, and I doubt anyone want to play these games using a PS3 controller instead of mouse + keyboard.

Playstations are always great for single player games such as RPGs, but never excel in FPS or MMORPG.


RE: Wii for meeee!
By UsernameX on 7/6/2006 6:25:32 PM , Rating: 2
As for porting those popular games, yah you're probably right it won't happen. But who's to say that PS3 will not have a keyboard or mouse to use? I mean common the PS2 has a keyboard already and correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't it have a mouse too?


RE: Wii for meeee!
By jelifah on 7/6/2006 11:38:33 AM , Rating: 2
<reality check>
So you've played games on the PS3 already? Awesome
</reality check>

It wouldn't hurt if you headed on over to arstechnica and looked at a direct screen comparison of the new Prey demo on a $500ish PC and on a 360.

http://episteme.arstechnica.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f...

Plus the PS3 will be more expensive than $500.
Plus if, and when, the PS3 is released in 5 months you'll have dual core processors available for ~$150 making a system even more attractive.

The argument for consoles should be the convenience of popping a disk in and playing on your couch. But don't delude yourself into thinking that you'll get better performance and technological voodoo because, as my link shows, that's already not the case.


Monitor playback?
By vijay333 on 7/6/2006 10:42:37 AM , Rating: 2
Does anyone know if there's any way you can play the Wii (or any other console for that matter) on a standard LCD/CRT? i.e.- for those of us who haven't bothered buying a tv set :)
if this is possible, then I'm definitely in for the Wii...




RE: Monitor playback?
By Homerboy on 7/6/2006 10:46:34 AM , Rating: 2
if not direct native support, there are ALWAYS cablesand adapters for whatever you may need/what.


RE: Monitor playback?
By IMPoor on 7/6/2006 11:13:19 AM , Rating: 2
Yes this has been possible forever. All you need is a VGA box. There are many 3rd party ones available. I used to use one on the original playstation many years ago. Of course you don't get sound but the VGA box I had had a audio out that I hooked up computer speakers to. Plying on a computer monitor looked way better than any tv in my house at that time and IO bet you a good CRT would still kick ass with these games. The VGA boxes are usually around $50 but you can do a google search.

AS far as the Wii I really don't think I need one. There are many levels of gamers out there. I think the wii would be good for the avereage gamer. Those younger kids or adults who just want simple and fun games. There may be some market from the old schoolers that remember the 8bit days where you had to blow on the cartridge for 5 minutes to get the game to load. But hardcore gamers need the top of the line consoles with the HD graphics. So those people will get the 360 or PS3 or stick to PC gaming. The wii will sell well and be popular but it will still never be better than number 3. which should still make them lots of money.


RE: Monitor playback?
By dagamer34 on 7/6/2006 12:10:21 PM , Rating: 2
Nintendo has announced a cable that will allow you to play the Wii on a computer monitor using VGA. But that cable hasn't actually been shown in public yet.


and one more thing
By desiplaya4life on 7/6/2006 8:41:51 PM , Rating: 2
lets be realistic there IS NOT A NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENCE from a composite to HDMI. i mean faster specs, faster this blah blah.. but im not gonna blow my brains over the competitive market. sure HDMI sounds nice but its just bragging rights that ooo my theatre system is all hooked up w/ HDMI tech. gimme a break. COMPONENT HD output is good enough for ME.




RE: and one more thing
By goku on 7/6/2006 10:40:36 PM , Rating: 1
I disagree, there is a night and day difference between DVI and composite. What you won't notice as much especially if the resolution being outputted is the same is the difference between S-Video and VGA, VGA to DVI. S-Video is so much cleaner looking. Hell it looks good even if the TV is composite input only and you use an S-Video to Composite converter when it gets to the TV!

They don't need HDMI because it's friggen pointless on a console that doesn't play blu-ray or HDDVD, well it's pointless for those things too but their reasoning is to 'protect their content'.


RE: and one more thing
By piroroadkill on 7/7/2006 5:28:02 AM , Rating: 2
Haha. There IS a night and day difference.


RE: and one more thing
By desiplaya4life on 7/7/2006 7:59:07 PM , Rating: 2
to me there isnt. yea its sharper and more clean image but again im happy turning on the system for n hr or 2 to pass my time and then turn it off. im not a geek gamer, just a casual gamer. id go w/ $250 wii than ps3.


No suprise
By lwright84 on 7/6/2006 11:26:02 AM , Rating: 2
shouldn't be a suprise to anyone really considering that most of the Wii's hardware comes from the gamecube.

i find it funny that all nintendo has done is basically "invented" another accessory and, since they've learned from their other disasters (superscope, powerglove, etc), they just decided to release a "new" (read: redesigned) console.

anyway, here's to hoping that their Wii-mote isn't as awkward as most people say it is.. can't wait to try it! :D




RE: No suprise
By dagamer34 on 7/6/2006 12:13:22 PM , Rating: 2
The same could really be said about the DS. The DS is really just a GBA at heart with another screen and another processor. Programming-wise, it's still pretty much the same.

But of course, that's a GOOD thing. Less time to learn the system, more time to make fun games!


RE: No suprise
By aGreenAgent on 7/6/2006 12:28:32 PM , Rating: 2
It's actually new hardware, too.

It's a beefy version of the gamecube. It's all native to gamecube code, though (same machine code).

The gamecube and the wii have the same hardware the same way an original P4 and a 3.2GHz P4 are the same processor.


Wall Street Rumors :s
By cnimativ on 7/6/2006 10:17:24 AM , Rating: 1
Not that I don't want to get my hands on a Wii early for the Zelda/Mario action, but the whole news is generated by that analyst report without much evidence to back up. Rumor mill anyone?




RE: Wall Street Rumors :s
By Live on 7/6/2006 10:28:35 AM , Rating: 2
I think the evidence is quite clear. Since retail production is already happening a earlier launch is possible just as the analyst/article claim. Now if Nintendo choose to use this possibility or not is any ones guess.


RE: Wall Street Rumors :s
By cnimativ on 7/6/2006 11:03:32 AM , Rating: 1
Retail production has to happen 2-3 months before the actual launch, so they can build up enough initial inventory. And then theres around 2-4 weeks of shipment to distributors and retailers. So its a good 3-4 months from now, in line with the original expected October/November release.


Not sold Till I try it
By gersson on 7/6/2006 11:32:42 AM , Rating: 2
I like the DS but mostly becuase it is superior in hardware than a GBA.

BUT, I hate using the stylus. Playing Metroid Prime Hunters is too much of a hassle -- and I've found that there's no practical way to play it. So it sits on my shelf.

I wonder if my hands will be steady enough for the Wiimote. Imagine using a mouse in the air...

I'd have to try it first, of course.




RE: Not sold Till I try it
By piroroadkill on 7/7/2006 5:27:34 AM , Rating: 2
I play Metroid Prime: Hunters using the D-Pad to look around (inverted also) and the buttons to move, and triggers to jump and fire.

I don't find it hard to play this way, and just tap the screen with my thumbnail when I need to click anything on the lower screen.


Completely expected
By neothe0ne on 7/6/2006 9:46:21 AM , Rating: 2
Anyone who's been following Wii news shouldn't be surprised by this. Leaked distributor and retail lists also show launch titles being released in mid-October. Here's for an October 18th launch!




RE: Completely expected
By RyanM on 7/6/2006 10:32:42 AM , Rating: 2
That's my B-day. Woot!


RE: Completely expected
By MercenaryForHire on 7/6/06, Rating: -1
MY OPINION
By desiplaya4life on 7/6/2006 8:39:07 PM , Rating: 3
i like nintendo. they are the smoothest criminals on the market. i mean they know what they are aim'in for and people are buying it. they dont copy MS, or sony they are original w/ fresh ideas and bringing new stuff to the table while sony/ms are hoggin over graphics braggin rights and hdmi/ bluray/dvd crap. again gameplay is what matters at the end. heck im a big tech fan i love technologies but to be realistic i cant have the latest tech at my feet. that being hdmi/1080p tv, 7.1 surround sound crap. i buy a console? to play games! nothing less nothing more. i was a BIG SONY fan since it first launced in 95. NOW my opinions are changing. sony isnt what it used to be 10-11yrs ago.

im glad nintendo is getting ahead of schedule and they will surely gain success from their vision and goals.




Good news
By Glavinsolo on 7/6/2006 9:28:44 AM , Rating: 2
This is a nice surprise since its the only console I consider buying. I'm sure it might just be a Japan release in September but USA will follow soon.




Bring it on!
By ascian5 on 7/6/2006 9:29:02 AM , Rating: 2
Though I despise "analyst" comments, here's hoping. I've been staving off finally buying a gamecube in anticipation of the Wii and don't have it in me to buy the first run of PS3, so I need something to tide me over.




Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
By CKDragon on 7/6/2006 9:31:19 AM , Rating: 2
Wow, we could be playing Wiis in 2 months time? It seems odd considering we haven't really seen much new since their very impressive showing at E3, but I'd sure take it. :)




This is great news.
By VooDooAddict on 7/6/2006 11:22:19 AM , Rating: 2
I think an early release will only help bolster more developers. It should also give Nintendo time to work out early issues of virtual console before the PS3 launch.




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