Tim Cook Doesn't Care if Android is Beating iOS in Sales
May 29, 2013 12:30 PM
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Apple's chief hints at new products -- iWatch, smart TV -- plus talks taxes, Lisa Jackson hiring, and lawsuits
(the eleventh annual
All Things D
press event), Apple, Inc. (
) chief executive Tim Cook delivered an interesting keynote interview.
I. Tim Cook Isn't Jealous of Android -- or so he Says
The interview comes at an interesting time. Apple is
continuing to struggle in China
profit margins have slid
for the first time in years; and its share prices
hover at a relatively "low"
(in Apple terms) $440 USD, having
briefly dipped below $400 USD
. Meanwhile, Android rivals' devices are selling well -- in the month after its launch HTC Corp. (
moved 5 million
, while Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (
shipped over 10 million
Galaxy S IV
handsets in the first month on the market.
But Tim Cook claims he isn't concerned about Android outselling iPhones in unit sales. He remarks, "Is Apple in trouble? Absolutely not. Let's zoom out and let me give you my perspective on it. We're a product company, so we think about products.... For us, winning has never been about having the most. Arguably, we make the best PC, but we don't make the most."
He points to strong sales figures (even if those figures show slowing growth), but is especially ardent about usage, commenting, "More important than the numbers -- customers
them. The usage of these products is unbelievable. The latest NetApp numbers look at usage, and I follow these closely. Usage worldwide, smartphones and tablets, from web traffic -- 59 percent is from iOS. Worldwide! I look at that, and I feel pretty good. We had an unprecedented number of new products last year."
Tim Cook is enthusiastic about new products like the iPad Mini, even if profit margins and growth have slid a bit.
Those "new products" include
the iPad Mini
(launched in Nov. 2012), the fourth generation iPad (also Nov. 2012);
a third generation Apple TV
(Mar. 2012); new
(Sept. 2012); refreshed Mac computers
including the Retina MacBook Pros
; and, of course,
the iPhone 5
II. "Game-Changer" New Apple Products Company
And Mr. Cook says new products are on the way, enthusing, "We're still that company. We have some incredible plans that we've been working on for a while. We have some incredible ideas. The same culture, and largely the same people that delivered the iPhone and iPad, are still there. The culture is all still there, and many of the people are there. I think we have several more game-changers in us."
What are those "game-changers"?
One will almost certainly be a "smart TV". Tim Cook announced that Apple TV --
once a "hobby" product
of late Apple CEO Steven P. Jobs -- had crossed the 13 million unit threshold, thanks to strong sales of around 7 million units in 2012. That contrasts favorably to some of Apple's
chief set-top box competition like Roku
, which has moved a mere 5 million units to date [
]. All that success, he adds, is without any major effort in terms of publicity -- "We aren't marketing it," he states.
But Tim Cook is still
greedily eyeing the smart TV
a flat panel set
with a built-in smartphone-like operating system (which provides internet browsing, media playing, and gaming without a set-top box). He comments, "We think a lot about the TV experience can be better. We answered some of those, not all of those, with the Apple TV, and we're still working on that."
Apple is likely looking to eventually transplant the "guts" of Apple TV directly
into a Smart TV set. [Image Source: Engadget]
In other words, Apple is likely working on a smart TV and/or television geared services, but is still
struggling to perfect them
The CEO also hinted at an upcoming
the smart watch
. Discussing the appeal of Google Inc.'s (
) Glass Explorer wearable Android device, he argues, "It's tough to see this having a broad-range appeal. But, I think wearables are incredibly interesting. I think it could be a profound area for technology. I wear glasses because I have to. I can't see without them. People generally want glasses to reflect their fashion, their style and so forth. From a mainstream point of view, this is difficult."
Interviewer Walt Mossberg (of
All Things D
The Wall Street Journal
) smartly asked, "But, the wrist is not?"
To which Mr. Cook replied, "I think the wrist is natural."
Apple won't be alone;
Samsung is also working on a smart watch
as is Microsoft
). But it sounds like we could see
an Apple wristwatch product this year
(another clue lies in the iPod Nano which reversed its shift to a
smaller wrist-watch wearable form
returning to a larger touch-screen
late last year).
A fan-made mockup of the Apple iWatch [Image Source: Lunatic]
Tim Cook suggests that sensors will play a key role in the upcoming product, enthusing about his NIKE, Inc. (
) Fuel Band. Thus it sounds like Apple's wristwatch product will likely have some sort of built in functionality for athletics (think run tracking) and perhaps proximity aware sensing (similar to the Galaxy S IV; hold up wrist watch near face to give voice-commands or perhaps even cellular calls).
III. Major Overhaul to iOS Confirmed
On the operating system front, Tim Cook confirms that major updates to OS X and iOS
will be rolled out in time
2013 Worldwide Developer Conference
(WWDC), which runs June 10-14 in San Francisco, Calif.
While he did not specifically confirm the widespread rumor that
iOS 7 will imitate Microsoft
's Windows Phone/Windows 8's "flat" look, he did confirm part of the rumor -- that Jony Ive (who designed the original iPhone body) is hard at work perfecting the major update to iOS.
An artist mockup of what iOS 7 might look like [Image Source: YouTube/Simply Zesty]
He comments, "Jony Ive has been really key [to this version.]"
He also indicates that his company is hard at work trying to repair
one of its major misses -- Maps
. He says, "I think it's very important. Mapping is complex, and not just the underlying data of the map, but things like POIs and the other pieces around it. We have an enormous investment in Maps. We've made many, many improvements over the last several months, including a very significant change in Japan. We think location is very important. [The product is] greatly improved, but not there yet. We're putting a lot of bright people on it. We screwed up there."
The executive shot down the rumor that Apple had made a bid for turn-by-turn directions company
. Waze is a popular Israeli startup who has its own maps, based on a crowd-sourced approach. The company has popular apps on Android and iOS and is particularly good at giving directions in that it "sees" traffic backups and suggests alternate routes thanks to its crowd-sourced strategy.
Google and Facebook.com, Inc. (
) are rumored to be in contention for the app.
More surprisingly Mr. Cook suggests that Apple may eventually go -- to an extent -- the route of Google, opening up some of its base APIs. He comments, "Of course -- on the area of APIs, I think you'll see us open up more in the future. But, not to the degree that we put the customer at risk of having a bad experience. Will we open up more? Yes."
IV. Lawsuits and Taxes
Tim Cook also addressed three of the key controversies facing his company -- environmental compliance, taxes, and lawsuits (against) Android.
On the topic of lawsuits, Mr. Cook defends Apple's
decision to sue Samsung
commenting, "The pluses for the broader industry, is that I think we're running the standards-essential issue largely to ground. There were several companies trying to get injunctions for standards-essential patents. When Google sued us, and Samsung sued us with standards-essentials injunctions on our products -- largely, the world has said that this isn't right, and that it's an abuse. Not just for Apple."
Apple's CEO says he doesn't like to sue people. [Image Source: Gizmodo]
Apple struck first against Samsung and HTC. In the case of Google subsidiary Motorola, it was Motorola who struck the first blow and Apple who countersued in cases that were eventually tossed from court with prejudice
but three times
When pushed by
's editor Nilay Patel, who said, "But you sued Samsung first, and
you just added the Galaxy S4
Mr. Cook continued to dodge the question of his company's ongoing legal war with Samsung, equivocating, "Generally, I don't like lawsuits any more than I did last year. But, I don't want copying. It's a values thing. This is about values at the end of the day."
It's important to remind readers that Apple has
made a licensing truce with HTC
-- its aggression towards Samsung appears to be largely from a competitive standpoint.
topic of taxes
he continues to
of tax dodging, remarking:
For multi-nationals, the right approach is simplicity. Just gut the code -- it's 7,500 pages long. None of us can read it. Apple's tax return is two feet high! It's absolutely crazy. Let's throw away the expenditures, and let's set a reasonable tax to bring offshore profits back to the US. It helps the US economy.
Our effective tax rates is 30.5%. We pay $6 billion -- that's more than anyone in the U.S.! We aren't in there saying we should pay less -- in fact, we may end up paying more with our approach. But we'd have unlimited ability to pull our money back to the U.S.
I've seen something where people think we have a special deal with the Irish government where we get a two percent flat tax rate. We don't have that. Let me just set that aside.
The basic thing that's being debated -- for a company like Apple that sells things across the world, and develops them in the United States, some people believe that all of the profits around the world should accrue to the U.S. and be taxed in the U.S.
If everything developed in the United States is going to be taxed here, I worry about where development will be. We're now in a situation where we don't always have to make decisions based on financial implications. But for other companies that do? This wouldn't be good for jobs in the United States. I want people to think through the logical next steps [in Congress].
I think when you get a little larger, you get more attention. It comes with the territory.
Indeed other large companies like
Google and Microsoft have come under scrutiny
in the U.S. and European Union over
similar tax dodging accusations
Apple says it isn't dodging taxes. [Image Source: SomanyMP3s]
Tim Cook's support of a flat tax is one shared by many Americans, but Washington D.C. politicians remain largely opposed to the idea, preferring the current convoluted system that allows them to
sneak tax loopholes into legislation
, which in turn
earns them special interest dollars
to win elections.
Lastly on the topic of "green" technology, Tim Cook thumped his company's track record, boasting, "Take the environment. We've been focused on that for a long time. We've eliminated toxins from all of our products. We're running our data centers with 100 percent renewable energy. We own the largest solar farm of any non-utility company (in North Carolina). We try to leave the environment better than we found it."
He reveals that his company just hired former
U.S. Environmental Protections Agency
to help with Apple's compliance efforts.
Former Obama admin. EPA chief Lisa Jackson is joining Apple. [Image Source: Reuters]
He explains, "Lisa Jackson is joining Apple. She recently left the EPA, and she'll now be coordinating these efforts across the company. She'll report to me. I like her a lot, and she's a chemical engineer by background. I actually forget the actual title, but she'll continue to coordinate our environmental efforts across Apple."
Lastly, on the topic of Apple's cash pile, which is
expected to hit $170B USD
this year, Tim Cook insists his company isn't hoarding cash. In addition to
its new dividend and share repurchasing programs
, he reveals that in 2012 Apple acquired nine firms, up from its yearly average of six.
He would not disclose what those firms were (other than the publicly known ones) for competitive reasons.
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RE: Why such a big deal?
5/30/2013 8:10:07 AM
Reclaimer and Retrospooty, you're both totally deluded bitter Apple haters.
It's nothing unique to Apple at all that the primary driver of any for-profit business, ever, has been to make profits.
If I want I can set up a business giving free iPads to everyone on the planet, and I can have 100% of the market share of iPad sales. Is it a good business? Of course not.
It's not about what Apple is leading in - if a company is making more profit they are doing better in that industry, period.
They do the same with their Macbook Air laptops. They don't have the majority of the market but they're the only ones making serious money out of it.
However much in denial you are, money is the objective of ALL BUSINESSES. Android isn't even owned by Google. I own it as much as Google does. It's open source software, and its utilisation doesn't really benefit anyone. Samsung sells their phones because of hardware, not software, as indicated by the awful sales of other Android makers. Google makes more money off iOS users than Android users, so even factoring in the Play Store, Google probably makes a loss out of Android. Add to that that their own decision to build Android means that their previously unrivalled mapping system now has an ever-improving competition. Had they not done this, their mapping solution would probably be THE standard on all devices.
The question, really, is why are you guys so desperate to say that Android is selling more? It's like saying that Ford is selling more cars than Porsche, well of course - they're cheap, they're the obvious, budget, mainstream choice for people with less money. But look at the profits of Porsche, and ask yourself who is doing better.
I could open up a store selling penny sweets and may sell 2 billion per year, but that means nothing without factoring in the profits I made.
What's so so ironic about DailyTech in general, is that you all group together and vilify Tony. Admittedly, sometimes he does deny even the most obvious Apple failing, so occasionally he takes his clear love of the company too far. However, in this case he's bang on the money and every single business execute or CEO in the world would agree with him. Yet you're both finding his post ridiculous and are completely in denial about it.
What that should tell you, if you are capable of basic logic - is that you two are the irrational delusional ones - you're Apple haters, plain and simple. Look at what you're claiming - that profits aren't important to companies. You're beyond jokes, and you only continue in this cloud of denial because you both manage to validate yourselves on a regular basis on this already biased website.
Reality would eat you both alive (and that's IF you're not the same deluded retard).
RE: Why such a big deal?
5/30/2013 1:00:45 PM
I never said anything against Apples business model. Clearly its profitable and I have mentioned this before... I don't hate Apple. I hate some of the moves they make and BS responses like "your holding it wrong" and the hippocritical Thermonuclear war thing. I hate loser asses on the internet that feel the need to defend every step any company takes and every product they make. Especially when they skew the whole truth like Tony does on a regular basis. I just don't get the "defend my favorite company" thing, and I post counter to it. I am pretty sure reclaimer hates Apple LOL.
RE: Why such a big deal?
5/30/2013 1:11:55 PM
so occasionally he takes his clear love of the company too far.
Oh the irony...
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