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HTC One with plain old Android expected this summer

One of the biggest headaches in the Android smartphone realm is the lag time between when Google releases an OS update and when smartphone manufacturers release their own customized version. That can mean when Google releases a new version of Android, it can be months before some users are able to get it on devices that use custom user interfaces.

HTC is now reportedly considering offering a version of the popular HTC One smartphone that lacks the unloved Sense user interface. Multiple sources are now indicating that HTC has a software build in the works for a plane HTC One running nothing but Android 4.2.2.

At this point, the rumors don't offer any indication of exactly how people will go about purchasing a version of the HTC One running plain Android. The device could be sold via the Google Play Store, but that is unconfirmed.

Sources did indicate that HTC will make the Sense-less version of the One available first in the U.S. The one caveat to a Sense-less version of the HTC One could be the lack of software support for some of the features that make the phone so good, such as BeatsAudio the HTC ImageSense software.

HTC also already has a Developer Edition of the One, and a Senseless version could muddy the waters for the company.
At this year’s Google I/O conference, Google announced a “pure” version of the Samsung Galaxy S IV that uses the stock Android operating system.


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RE: Note to Android phone manufacturers
By Spuke on 5/24/2013 10:01:33 AM , Rating: 0
Note to DT nerds, you are in the minority. What you want and what the general populace wants are not the same thing. Joe Average Smartphoneuser doesn't know the differences between Sense and plain Android. They pick a phone based on aesthetics and features. And I can tell you that sometimes it's just because someone else they know bought one and was happy with it.

RE: Note to Android phone manufacturers
By corduroygt on 5/24/2013 10:06:32 AM , Rating: 5
If the average user does not know the difference between Sense and plain Android, why spend money on it?
Also, they will surely notice the difference in responsiveness, it's still a big selling point for the iPhone.

By asgallant on 5/24/2013 11:23:25 AM , Rating: 2
As I understand things, the main driver for these reskins is the Asian market, where they are popular. Without the reskins, the phones don't sell there, so it is worth it for the OEM's to do the work of reskinning. We get stuck with this crap because it is cheaper for them to sell all of their phones reskinned than to maintain two different software stacks.

RE: Note to Android phone manufacturers
By Spuke on 5/24/2013 12:13:58 PM , Rating: 1
If the average user does not know the difference between Sense and plain Android, why spend money on it?
You are missing the point. The average user does NOT know there is a Sense or a plain Jane Android or TouchWiz or any of that stuff. They just know they have a phone that looks great and has X features. THAT'S IT!!! These people don't spend their days on internet forums debating nerds on techie stuff. Your average person is NOT a techie in any way, shape or form. Why is this so hard to understand? Sure if you SHOWED them the differences, they MIGHT prefer plain Android or they may not. I showed a few in-laws my phone and they all went an bought SGS3's, one got a Droid DNA. Obviously plain Android wasn't a big deal to them. US, WE, nerdy types would prefer an unmolested OS because we KNOW the benefits and average people aren't nerds!!! Different priorities and motivations for regular folks. I get it.

By dsumanik on 5/27/2013 8:52:26 PM , Rating: 2
To Spuke and any other apple vs whoever the phuck my epeen is bigger than yours internet wannabe forum super hero:

Using the argument of :

"the average user isnt a techie and doesnt want or understand *insert anything here*"

has been used in for the last 15 years and is still failing.

You are on a tech blog.
The people here are techies.
You are arguing with a crowd who will never see any other point of view.
The "average" consumer is now pretty nerdy anyways, go listen to the discussions at a "genius"'s both hilarious and sad.

Some good advice my father gave me on the day i graduated:

The only person in life you can change is yourself.

SO yeah, just give it up.

All of you are smashing your heads against a brick wall over and over, with no chance of success, recognition, or validation for your misplaced urge to assert dominance and earn respect from others, especially women, in the real world.

Thats really what it boils down to, you need to get laid!


The user with the hot avatar pic IS a 40 year old fat guy named murray.
See line above p.s.

RE: Note to Android phone manufacturers
By lifewatcher on 5/24/2013 11:11:52 AM , Rating: 3
Note to Spuke: One doesn't have to be a nerd to appreciate consistency throughout an OS ecosystem. If Dell, HP, Acer, etc all had their versions of Windows, I think everyone, not only the nerds, would have had much more to complain about. Yes, there may be different bloatware, as manufacturers try to squeeze a few dimes in subsidies, but I see no benefit in a messed up interface. Just because some marketing schmuck decided that the wheel should be reinvented, doesn't mean that I want to pay for the overhead of developing unique UI, which will delay future upgrades to new Android versions and, yes, also for the salaries for that same marketing genius.

RE: Note to Android phone manufacturers
By Spuke on 5/24/2013 12:18:52 PM , Rating: 1
Note to Spuke: One doesn't have to be a nerd to appreciate consistency throughout an OS ecosystem.
They don't care!!! LOL! They're not nerds!!! How do they know about inconsistent ecosystems unless they're on the internet looking for information on this stuff. I know lots of people surround themselves with like minded people but I have the (apparently) unique position of being around mostly non-nerd, totally not techie people. Some of my friends and family are good at researching but their motivations are still as users not nerds. To them, a different look and feel is just that. if they like it, they buy it, If they don't like, they don't buy. They don't sit around arguing about inconsistent OS's like we do. it doesn't matter to them.

By arthur449 on 5/24/2013 9:10:41 PM , Rating: 2
I think you mean "informed consumers" instead of nerds.

RE: Note to Android phone manufacturers
By Wererat on 5/24/2013 11:55:32 AM , Rating: 3
This is dead wrong. Everyone who owns one of these phones notices when the guy with the other phone has the cool features of the OS upgrade, but they don't. At that point, every day is negative PR for the company as the owner says "why can't I have 'feature X'" too?

This is doubly true when the manufacturer (often in mere months) just stops bothering to offer upgrades because they only have time to support the latest phone or the one not yet out.

If these companies think they're adding value with their customizations, let them offer them as an add-on package.

By Spuke on 5/24/2013 12:19:30 PM , Rating: 1
This is dead wrong. Everyone who owns one of these phones notices when the guy with the other phone has the cool features of the OS upgrade, but they don't.
Not what I'm talking about at all.

By insurgent on 5/28/2013 4:31:08 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah I'm sure millions of people with the S4 and One are envious of the lockscreen widgets in 4.2.2. LMAO

Air gestures, Beats, Blinkfeed, photos with audio, Smart branded features; I'm sure you do not care about these and they don't sell phones, yeah, let's see the Nexus 4's sales numbers, hahaha!

By AFMatt on 5/25/2013 12:12:12 PM , Rating: 2
While I do not agree with calling everyone who is into this stuff "nerds", Spuke does have a very valid point. I think we all need to keep in mind the arguments being made here are all relative.
AverageJoe consumer buys a phone for the flashy features and gimmicks. They don't know "more responsive UI" because the UI they have has the features they want and that 10ms difference in loading times or page flips doesn't mean jack to them (not that I've ever seen a problem with response time on any of my friend's HTC phones).
Software updates? I couldn't even count how many people I know who own smartphones (iPhone and Android) that aren't even aware there are updates or what those updates have/do. In addition to that, the mass consumer market does not want to or even know how to find all the apps that give them those features the phone already came with.

It's just like computers.. Want a more responsive and reliable computer? Buy the components, build it yourself, install the software. Does AverageJoe consumer do that? Of course not. They buy the off the shelf computer stuffed with bloatware and garbage because all that crap looks neato to them.

With that, the real issue here is Sense is dated and might not be as appealing as it used to be. When they first released it, Android's basic interface wasn't nearly as refined as it is today. Sense gave HTC something to use for that geewiz factor I mentioned above and they sold tons of phones. They might be better off dropping Sense as the UI, but keeping all the pre-installed widgets they typically offer.

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