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Nokia was the main hardware maker behind Windows' boost, accounting for 79 percent of shipments in Q1 2013

Windows 8 tablets may not be seeing a ton of success, but Windows Phone is doing just fine as it managed to slip past BlackBerry for third place in smartphone operating system shipments. 

According to the International Data Corporation (IDC) Worldwide Quarterly Mobile Phone Tracker, Windows Phone jumped to third place in the first quarter of 2013 with 7 million units shipped. About 3 million Windows Phones were shipped in the year-ago quarter. 

This gave Windows Phone a total of 3.2 percent smartphone market share for Q1 2013, which was a boost from Q1 2012's market share of only 2 percent. 

"Windows Phone claiming the third spot is a first and helps validate the direction taken by Microsoft and key partner Nokia," said Kevin Restivo, senior research analyst with IDC's Worldwide Quarterly Mobile Phone Tracker. "Given the relatively low volume generated, the Windows Phone camp will need to show further gains to solidify its status as an alterative to Android or iOS."

A big reason for Windows Phone's boost is Nokia, which makes flagship handsets like the Nokia Lumia 920. It's been trying to keep a steady pace of releases too, with new smartphones like the Lumia 925 (Nokia's new metal flagship phone for T-Mobile only) and the Lumia 928 (exclusive to Verizon only starting today). 

Nokia made up about 79 percent of all Windows Phone shipments during Q1 2013. 

BlackBerry fell to fourth place with 6.3 million shipments and 2.9 percent market share for the quarter. This was compared to 9.7 million shipments 6.4 percent market share in Q1 2012. 

BlackBerry has been trying to make a comeback with its new BlackBerry 10 (BB10) operating system and line of devices. The new line was introduced in late January of this year, with its first BB10 smartphone -- the Z10 -- being released at that same time in the UK. It rolled out slowly throughout the next couple of months, ending with a U.S. launch on March 22. 

This means that BB10 couldn't really use the first quarter to its full potential as far as shipments go, and numbers could pick up in Q2 2013 -- especially since its second BB10 smartphone (the Q10) is being released throughout May. 

I think we can all guess which operating systems took the first and second places. Android stayed at No. 1 with 162.1 million units shipped and 75 percent market share in Q1 2013. Apple's iOS took second with 37.4 million shipments and 17.3 percent market share. 

Source: Business Wire



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RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By 91TTZ on 5/16/2013 12:41:30 PM , Rating: 2
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Question is, did Nokia have positive cash-flow selling smartphones? (You did not)


No.

If a company isn't making any profit, they have a negative cashflow, right? Nokia is losing money trying to stay in the smartphone business. More money leaves their pockets than goes into it. No company can stay in business with a negative cashflow.

Nokia's net income was (negative) 3.1 billio) Euros last year.


RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/16/2013 1:25:46 PM , Rating: 2
Isn't MS paying them billions to have them use Windows Phone?


RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By 91TTZ on 5/16/2013 1:53:18 PM , Rating: 2
Why would Microsoft build a phone operating system and then pay people to use it? Did Microsoft pay you to use Windows 7?

Microsoft is supposed to make money by selling software.


RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By retrospooty on 5/16/2013 1:58:00 PM , Rating: 2
To try and gain market share and relevance in mobile.


RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By 91TTZ on 5/16/2013 3:09:49 PM , Rating: 2
They're failing to do that. In fact, none of Microsoft's mobile initiatives (Windows 8, Surface, Windows Phone) seem to be gaining traction in the market.


By Mitch101 on 5/16/2013 5:16:21 PM , Rating: 2
To gain market share is a big deal the phone manufacturers arent selling the same number of phones every quarter.

If the same number of phones were sold every quarter and a phone gained market share then its one losing to another because a finite number of devices are being sold.

But when an extra say 20 million phones sell in a quarter in order to gain market share you not only have to sell a percentage of everyone else but you have to capture a percentage of the extra phones being sold into the market to gain market share.

So to gain market share even by a small amount when there are more and more phones sold every quarter is a big deal and it shows adoption and traction.

Apple could very well be selling the same number of phones this quarter they did last quarter but if they arent taking a percentage of the extra number of phones being sold this quarter when the totals are added up they will look like they are losing market share.

Math are hard.


RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/16/2013 2:33:46 PM , Rating: 2
It happened, I incorrectly said billions, it's millions. 250 million to be exact.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/microsoft-paid-...


RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By 91TTZ on 5/16/2013 3:08:28 PM , Rating: 2
In other words the Windows Phone ecosystem is still losing money. It takes money to keep it afloat, and not enough money is coming in. So Microsoft is propping it up with their own money in the hopes that it'll take off.


By Mitch101 on 5/16/2013 5:02:13 PM , Rating: 2
If you look at the year as a whole sure but consider Nokia didn't really have anything at the beginning of last year because they were still in development and transition, They also got screwed by Samsung on parts supplies hmm I wonder why?, But as of the last quarter they are starting to make money again and most recently with all the major carriers in all countries starting to sell Nokia devices they will start to post even bigger profits again.

Also Nokia owns the cash cow of patents there is a lot of money all the other phone makers have to pay into Nokia.

I would dare say Nokia has the best reputation of any Phone manufacturer add all of the above and its only a matter of time as Nokia continues to eat up more and more market share.


RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/16/2013 5:04:29 PM , Rating: 2
Pretty much :P


RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By Pirks on 5/17/2013 2:13:52 AM , Rating: 2
MS did it with XBox and it may just as well work with Windows Phone, at least current IDC stats show 113% YoY growth which made WP officially the third horse in the race slightly ahead of Blackberry. Given that MS fixes crappy music player that can't play MP3 from SD card properly and given that they persuade Gameloft to release more high-end 3D games for WP, it may overtake Android quality wise as a whole smartphone experience. Not this year but maybe next.


RE: Windows Phone "doing just fine"?
By DukeN on 5/16/2013 1:58:53 PM , Rating: 3
Actually these are two different things.

A lot of companies use "creative" accounting to reduce their net "profit" to as little as possible to avoid taxation.

Cashflow is a half-decent way to quickly gauge the health of a company, but in a vacuum it's not something you should bet the mortgage on.

Nokia's cash-flow in the last two quarters has actually been positive, which isn't the case for some of their competitors.


By Mitch101 on 5/16/2013 5:19:46 PM , Rating: 2
They are lumping in when Nokia didn't have flagship phones and all carriers selling them to make it sound like Nokia is failing completely ignoring the last two quarters. Surprised not.


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