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Microsoft will finally answer the questions of DRM and more next week

Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) will announce its next generation console next Tuesday (May 21) ahead of the 2013 Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3).

Rumored to be named either the Xbox Infinity or Xbox 720, the upcoming console stirred controversy over rumors that it would use digital rights management (DRM) to ban used games.  Rude Twitter remarks led to the firing of one Microsoft staffer as the debate over the DRM grew heated.

No one knows for sure, though, whether Microsoft actually planned the DRM or is sticking to such possible plans after the controversy.

What is expected is that the Microsoft console will pack similar hardware to arch-rival Sony Corp.'s (TYO:6758already-announced PS4.  That console packs 8 GB of DRAM, aside a GPU and x86 CPU from Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. (AMD).  Given that NVIDIA Corp. (NVDAsays it isn't interesting in making console graphics, it seems likely AMD could pop up in the next Xbox, as well.

The PS4 -- which has not yet been priced -- is rumored to be priced between $400 and $500 USD.  The next Xbox is rumored to cost $500 USD, but also be available in an ad-subsidized form for $200 to $300 USD.

The console is rumored to introduce 1080p Kinect motion controls, a work-in-progress that's been written about in leaks stories for some time.

Source: ExtremeTech



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Interested?
By rcabor on 5/15/2013 11:39:41 AM , Rating: 3
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Given that NVIDIA Corp. (NVDA) says it isn't interesting in making console graphics,


Had to read that twice, it made my head hurt. :)




RE: Interested?
By Motoman on 5/15/2013 1:00:48 PM , Rating: 3
Translation:

quote:
AMD won everything this round, so now we're going to pretend we didn't want it anyway.


RE: Interested?
By karimtemple on 5/15/2013 1:52:21 PM , Rating: 2
It is true that margins on embedded chips are really low, though.

But you're right. I think what really happened here is there was no way for nVidia to offer a superior value proposition to AMD -- they don't have powerful CPUs. They're doing some acceptable ARM stuff, but not even ARMv8 was going to cut it when you're talking about the successors to the 360 and PS3. They also don't have an HSA-compatible GPU. AMD had the total platform package.


RE: Interested?
By rippleyaliens on 5/15/2013 2:45:11 PM , Rating: 2
Sure AMD Won, BUT what did they win?? Contracts to build over 5 years, 100 million Devices?? (Being Generous)..

Unfortunately this is a failure. With Console Designs LOCKED IN, for the 5 year Process.. IN 2 YEARS, 4k will be commodity pricing, as they already have a 55' 4K Tv, selling for $1300..

people say, "I only want it for Movies"-- SURE YOU DO..
Once a GAME, Truly pushes the Boundries, and shows what 4K can do, THINGS WILL CHANGE.. They always have, always will..
Same was said, from vga, to svga, -----1080P, to Eyeinfinity-- AND now 4K!!!..

Remember folks, IF you cant afford it, that doesnt mean, that it wont exist. Not to say, anything money wise. BUT -- 1080P, was considered "Not needed", YET can go into wallyworld and get a 50' 1080P for under $500..

Amd won the right to be on 2x consoles, that have a shelflife of 6-7 years. 7 years, ago, we were running single core processors, with video cards topping out at 512 MB of ram. 250Gb Hard drives just hit. Laptops had 20-40GB hard drives. no taplets, nada..

SO yes AMD won.. NOW they have to allocate resources to support 2 consoles.


RE: Interested?
By karimtemple on 5/15/2013 2:58:32 PM , Rating: 2
An AMD GPU is on the Wii U as well.


RE: Interested?
By Manch on 5/16/2013 9:16:18 AM , Rating: 2
55' 4k TV for $1300?!?!?!!! I dont think there is even room in my yard for it! oh wait you mean 55" :D

Here's the quick n dirty so I may fuzz over some details. AMD is a design house. They dont fabricate anything anymore. They may be designed by AMD but Sony, Nintendo, and MS bought/licensed their specific designs from AMD. MS with the original XBOX didnt do this. They were using an COTS proc and GPU so MS pushed hard to launch the 360 ASAP because supply channels were dryed up and shortly afterwards so did the consoles. With the 360 by buying/licensing the design, they had total control and do not have to pay the exorborant price they did with the original xbox parts and have control over their supply.

So allocation fo resources by AMD is minimal at this stage. At most they will support die revisions over the life of teh console, but other than that its a steady source of income for AMD for the near future.


RE: Interested?
By karimtemple on 5/16/2013 9:43:50 AM , Rating: 2
AMD is not doing licensing this generation, they're doing the hardware. It's a gamble, but there's a lot more money to be had. When you're struggling, you tend to lock in revenue streams whenever possible.


RE: Interested?
By Manch on 5/16/2013 12:17:31 PM , Rating: 2
Oh yeah bc of the x86 portion of the APU? Still those respective designs will remain exclusive to the respective buyers and MS/Sony/Nintendo don't have to worry about not having chips available. As long as those consoles sell, then it should be a pretty steady stream of revenue for AMD. Plus as die processes shrink, they will save money/increase profit.


RE: Interested?
By kilkennycat on 5/15/2013 3:11:59 PM , Rating: 2
Since AMD is verging on bankruptcy, you can bet that Sony (and MS, if they likely use AMD) will have contract-established the complete design-update and production rights to the AMD console chips in the event that AMD go bellyflop.... This is a cut-throat-margin business. See the following for one historical reason why nVidia does not want to be involved:-

http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4094562/Mi...


RE: Interested?
By Cheesew1z69 on 5/16/2013 12:11:56 AM , Rating: 3
They are on the verge of bankruptcy? I doubt that will ever happen as that would give Intel a virtual monopoly.


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