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Samsung is about to add a fifth 'G' to the mix.  (Source: Shootspeak)
World's top smartphone maker expects tech to roll out by 2020

Despite the drastic relative devaluation of standard patents in the U.S., Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930) continues to pioneer new industry standard smartphone and telecommunications technologies.  Samsung announced this week that it had completed trials of the core technology it hopes will make up the fifth generation (5G) wireless standard.

The era of 4G LTE is still young, but Samsung is already cooking up a faster replacement, 5G.  According to Samsung the technology will allow you to download a full length movie over the air in less than a second.  Versus LTE, which tops out at around 75 megabits-per-second (Mbps), 5G will offer blazing speeds of up to tens of gigabits-per-second (Gbps).
 
According to South Korea's Yonhap News Agency, in its test Samsung achieved "low-end" 5G -- a transmission of 1 Gbps in the 28 Gigahertz (GHz) band.  This is even faster than previous "5G" trials in the UK that showed off 200 Mbps transmissions.

The bad news is that Samsung says the technology likely won't hit the market till 2020.

And the other bad news is that the technology has a lot of hurdles to overcome to achieve commercial viability -- it required 64 antennas for Samsung to achieve its record result.

Still with China and the European Union investing big in the development of the next generation standard, and top electronics firms like Samsung stepping up to the plate, it seems that a solution will eventually be found.

Source: Yonhap News



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RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Reclaimer77 on 5/13/2013 11:50:38 AM , Rating: 3
You guys are idiots. Do I really have to explain how stupid your argument is?

Saying "I have a data cap, so I can't benefit from a faster lower latency network" is like saying you don't benefit from a owning a car because there's a speed limit.

If I have to download a file of, lets say a gig, to my phone I would be better served by 5G over 4G. I get the file faster! It doesn't impact my data cap more than it would have.

If I'm watching a streaming vid, again, the file size is the same. But with 5G it buffers instantly and plays more smoothly. Without any skips or buffer interruptions. Again, I'm benefiting.

I remember people saying this same crap when LTE was taking off. Guess what? You were all wrong. 4G LTE is far far superior to 3G. And everyone isn't blowing through their data caps unless they are idiots who never use WiFi.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Akrovah on 5/13/2013 12:37:39 PM , Rating: 2
You're not entirly wrong, actually you are mostly right. But faster speed can encourage increased useage. Myself for instance. When I could hardly watch a you tube video or even stream pandora without buffering every 15 seconds I used maybe a gig and a half a month of my unlimited data.

Now on LTE where data useage actually works I am constantly bumping up against my 6 gig limit.

Obviously this effect isnt going to be as dramatic with 5G since current 4G does pretty much everything, but to say that those who feel faster data speeds CAN impact data useage are idiots isn't taking temptation of useage into account.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Motoman on 5/13/2013 12:46:10 PM , Rating: 2
That's just it. If you never use Youtube, netflix, whatever on your cellular-service device because the bandwidth wouldn't let the stuff play well, you easily stayed under your cap.

All of a sudden *bam* - you can stream anything you want. "Yay!" you cry as you start watching live TV and whatever else. 2 hours later you hit your cap and now you're going to live for the remaining 29 days of the month at something like 20k download speeds.

That's the human use-case factor. People by and large can often get by on tiny data caps because they don't have a lot of reasons to currently use it that much. But if you magically make the service so much better that the user actually *can* do these things they never did before, suddenly they start using it. And then...*BAM*


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By ebakke on 5/13/2013 3:16:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That's just it. If you never use Youtube, netflix, whatever on your cellular-service device because the bandwidth wouldn't let the stuff play well, you easily stayed under your cap. All of a sudden *bam* - you can stream anything you want. ...
I'm sure that's a valid usage scenario for some (many? most?) people. But for me, I currently have unlimited Verizon 4G LTE (including unlimited 4G hotspot) and I've never gone over 3GB in a month.

Because for me no matter how large of a data bucket I have, consuming content on a phone is still far less appealing than doing so on a laptop.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Motoman on 5/13/2013 3:45:30 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly I have to agree with that. I haven't got the foggiest idea how anyone watches Netflix on their phone.

Anyway though, I tend to think more from the standpoint of people who have to live off of cellular data service as their one-and-only internet connection. Like, no cable or DSL available. Which, realistically, is tens of millions of US citizens.

They're the ones who don't have the slightest opportunity to participate in many aspects of the internet - including any and all streaming services. Or even Youtube, to a large extent.


By aliasfox on 5/13/2013 5:29:13 PM , Rating: 2
While Netflix may be off the table, faster speeds definitely increase usage. I'm on an iPhone running on TMobile's network. About six months ago, I started seeing stable 3G around NYC. Before then, I rarely even used Maps on the phone because the EDGE network was unbearably slow.

Now that I have 3G, it's useably fast on normal day to day stuff, so I surf more, Yelp more, Youtube more, etc. Downloading the day's podcasts takes about 3-5 minutes instead of an hour on EDGE - if I forget to do it at home on wi-fi, I can download them on my walk to the subway.

So yes, faster network connections will encourage greater use. Someone, somewhere will find a use for them, even if it's just the (pretty, but pretty much useless) 3D maps Apple came up with in iOS6.


By Roffles on 5/13/2013 6:12:48 PM , Rating: 2
It's almost like the telephone companies are saying, "you are only allowed to use your phones on our network for e-mail, mapping and light web browsing... and the 4G makes it faster and more convenient to do these simple tasks".

On Verizon, even if you shell out $100 for the 12GB tier, you could still go through all that bandwidth in ~1 hour if you were at peak speeds. You just can't use 4G for advanced computing and media consumption, they won't let you, not even on these new cortex A15 phones that are made for it. This makes 4G no better than 3G from an evolutionary standpoint. I see no reason why 5G would be any different.

I'm holding on to my unlimited data plan for as long as I can. I used to complain about my $100 wireless bill, but it gets more and more valuable every year. My $100/month unlimited plan vs. $160 12GB tiered data plan = $720/year more in costs. That much money saved puts a brand new flagship phone in my pocket every single year if I want it to.


By EnzoFX on 5/13/2013 12:45:27 PM , Rating: 2
Not to mention the fact that data caps have always been relative! I'm sure you had a 2GB data cap 7 years ago, and the same cap 7 years from now...


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By JackBurton on 5/13/2013 1:32:28 PM , Rating: 1
Ah the Internet, where every moronic 13 yr old thinks he's smart.

With the current plans, people struggle to keep under their data caps using LTE. Yes you will get data faster with the newer 5G, but you will also hit your cap faster which is the real problem. You want to stream a 1GB+ movie! Sure it will download faster with 5G, but you just ate through 25% of your MONTHLY data cap in one shot. I'm on LTE and have no issues downloading or buffering videos, but I have to watch my usage carefully. And you think increasing the speed will fix this? I'd take LTE speed with a 25GB data plan that's the same price as a 4GB data plan now, over faster wireless speed.


By Cheesew1z69 on 5/13/2013 6:03:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Ah the Internet, where every moronic 13 yr old thinks he's smart.
Pot...Kettle...


By retrospooty on 5/13/2013 8:05:04 PM , Rating: 2
I would highly doubt in the year 2020 with 5G speed that 2GB data plans will be the norm. You act like this is about to come out with todays plans and rail against it... Its still 7 years off.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By cknobman on 5/13/2013 1:48:31 PM , Rating: 2
You don't understand the argument, therefore you're the idiot.

Increased speed = increased data usage.

Get out of your box and realize your usage habits != to everyone else.


By Reclaimer77 on 5/13/2013 3:18:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Increased speed = increased data usage.


And that's false. I do get the argument, it's just not true.

Increased speed has a higher potential for increased data, that however is true.

However increased speed is more about quality of life as far as I see it. It doesn't mean you HAVE to consume more data. It just means the things you want to do, get done faster than before.


By ebakke on 5/13/2013 3:40:16 PM , Rating: 2
Those who claim stupidity in others while showing off their own, amuse me greatly. Thanks for the chuckle.

As Reclaimer has already stated, your logic is flawed and the increased speed only allows higher usage; it does not guarantee it.


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