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Samsung is about to add a fifth 'G' to the mix.  (Source: Shootspeak)
World's top smartphone maker expects tech to roll out by 2020

Despite the drastic relative devaluation of standard patents in the U.S., Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (KSC:005930) continues to pioneer new industry standard smartphone and telecommunications technologies.  Samsung announced this week that it had completed trials of the core technology it hopes will make up the fifth generation (5G) wireless standard.

The era of 4G LTE is still young, but Samsung is already cooking up a faster replacement, 5G.  According to Samsung the technology will allow you to download a full length movie over the air in less than a second.  Versus LTE, which tops out at around 75 megabits-per-second (Mbps), 5G will offer blazing speeds of up to tens of gigabits-per-second (Gbps).
 
According to South Korea's Yonhap News Agency, in its test Samsung achieved "low-end" 5G -- a transmission of 1 Gbps in the 28 Gigahertz (GHz) band.  This is even faster than previous "5G" trials in the UK that showed off 200 Mbps transmissions.

The bad news is that Samsung says the technology likely won't hit the market till 2020.

And the other bad news is that the technology has a lot of hurdles to overcome to achieve commercial viability -- it required 64 antennas for Samsung to achieve its record result.

Still with China and the European Union investing big in the development of the next generation standard, and top electronics firms like Samsung stepping up to the plate, it seems that a solution will eventually be found.

Source: Yonhap News



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Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By cknobman on 5/13/2013 10:01:10 AM , Rating: 5
You can use up your monthly data allowance in a mere 2 seconds!!!

I can see AT&T and Verizon just wetting themselves right now.




RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By xti on 5/13/2013 10:05:47 AM , Rating: 2
lol...

all kidding aside... I wonder how they spin this one in the future when they can no longer claim network congestion the way they do now.

crossing my fingers for the consumers.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By tayb on 5/13/2013 10:28:56 AM , Rating: 2
Network congestion isn't a valid argument right now yet they're still using it. What makes you believe that with more bandwidth they won't continue to make the same arguments to justify their price gouging?


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Mitch101 on 5/13/2013 12:04:52 PM , Rating: 2
AT&T is starting to realize that end if nearing.

AIO Wireless - AKA AT&T
http://www.aiowireless.com/home.html

Think its $55.00 a month.
Houston, Orlando, and Tampa, with additional cities coming over the next year.

There is also Straight Talk where depending on the device could be Verizon(Generally flip phones) and Smartphones (generall Sprint) for $45.00 a month.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Motoman on 5/13/2013 12:20:25 PM , Rating: 2
Close, but not quite.

Looks like you only get the first 7Gb at full-speed. Then they'll likely throttle you to ~20k, like T-Mobile does to us.

Also, while Straight Talk (and maybe others) does offer truly unlimited data (which never gets throttled - it should be illegal to refer to something as "unlimited" if it can be throttled), they don't allow you to use their service to tether/hotspot for other devices. I would guess that AIO does the same.

That limitation has to go to make cellular wifi a real "broadband" option for people who can't get cable or DSL. With those limitations in place (throttling, caps, and no tethering/wifi) it's kind of just a cruel hoax.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Mitch101 on 5/13/2013 1:09:08 PM , Rating: 2
If Wifi is your way you might consider this.
http://www.republicwireless.com/

How it works is it attempts to use Wifi for phone service instead of a carrier the drawback if switching out of Wifi over to a cell tower your guaranteed to drop connection but its an interesting concept and might work well for a lot of people who are in free cell areas. If you work for a coffee shop or McDonalds with Free Wifi and then your at Home with Wifi then Why not. My company has a guest Wifi for vendors which I could leverage so I did consider this.

Straight Talk.
I will say this since I put the wife on Straight Talk and this really irks me is she gets better service and data using Straight Talk then when we were direct on Sprint. Going from Sprint on a Samsung Epic 4g $75.00 a month to Sprint on an LG Optimus Q for $45.00 a month was a major improvement. The issue with Straight talk is you need sim based device to bring your own over or your limited to the poor selection of phones they offer.

For the record im on a Windows Phone on AT&T through a corporate device.

Cheaper options for service are coming but the coverage is the issue and the big carriers are getting into the lower cost space I would imagine to deter growth from services like Cricket.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Reclaimer77 on 5/13/2013 1:14:47 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
For the record im on a Windows Phone


As if we didn't all know that :)


By Mitch101 on 5/13/2013 1:24:32 PM , Rating: 3
LOL. Yes I should just change my screen name and include the Microsoft pom poms for Windows Phone but I dont have the legs to pull it off.


By Motoman on 5/13/2013 2:55:15 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If Wifi is your way you might consider this. http://www.republicwireless.com/


???

How does that help people who have no access to cable or DSL? The point is that those people generally have to use something like a cellular data service in order to get internet at all - and hence are living under the data cap for everything they do...not just cell phone usage.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By chripuck on 5/13/2013 1:33:10 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not apologist for the cell phone carriers, but you do realize the cost of routing your traffic over the internet is far more than phone to tower right? The backhaul to the main trunk along with all cross network licensing fees e.g. L3 make up a sizable amount of their costs.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By xti on 5/13/2013 2:49:18 PM , Rating: 2
that's nice and all, but if carriers keep popping up shaving dollars off, then there is obviously a profit margin that can be shrunk to benefit customers.


By Roffles on 5/13/2013 4:59:29 PM , Rating: 2
I don't know... your comment got me thinking about Verizon's 100 billion dollars attempt buy out Vodafone last week. It seems to me like they are swimming in an ocean of profit. I doubt the move from unlimited to tiered data was to prevent revenue loss.

At any rate, you can consume your entire 2GB tier in 16 seconds if you had these new speeds.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By JackBurton on 5/13/2013 10:34:23 AM , Rating: 2
Exactly. This is pointless unless providers increase or remove the data caps.


By Motoman on 5/13/2013 11:38:09 AM , Rating: 2
Yup. The oligarchy is tightening caps and restrictions more and more even as the cost-to-serve continually goes down.

As network data capacity goes up and their cost to provide that service goes down, they strangle the consumer more and more with abusive pricing policies.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Reclaimer77 on 5/13/2013 11:50:38 AM , Rating: 3
You guys are idiots. Do I really have to explain how stupid your argument is?

Saying "I have a data cap, so I can't benefit from a faster lower latency network" is like saying you don't benefit from a owning a car because there's a speed limit.

If I have to download a file of, lets say a gig, to my phone I would be better served by 5G over 4G. I get the file faster! It doesn't impact my data cap more than it would have.

If I'm watching a streaming vid, again, the file size is the same. But with 5G it buffers instantly and plays more smoothly. Without any skips or buffer interruptions. Again, I'm benefiting.

I remember people saying this same crap when LTE was taking off. Guess what? You were all wrong. 4G LTE is far far superior to 3G. And everyone isn't blowing through their data caps unless they are idiots who never use WiFi.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Akrovah on 5/13/2013 12:37:39 PM , Rating: 2
You're not entirly wrong, actually you are mostly right. But faster speed can encourage increased useage. Myself for instance. When I could hardly watch a you tube video or even stream pandora without buffering every 15 seconds I used maybe a gig and a half a month of my unlimited data.

Now on LTE where data useage actually works I am constantly bumping up against my 6 gig limit.

Obviously this effect isnt going to be as dramatic with 5G since current 4G does pretty much everything, but to say that those who feel faster data speeds CAN impact data useage are idiots isn't taking temptation of useage into account.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Motoman on 5/13/2013 12:46:10 PM , Rating: 2
That's just it. If you never use Youtube, netflix, whatever on your cellular-service device because the bandwidth wouldn't let the stuff play well, you easily stayed under your cap.

All of a sudden *bam* - you can stream anything you want. "Yay!" you cry as you start watching live TV and whatever else. 2 hours later you hit your cap and now you're going to live for the remaining 29 days of the month at something like 20k download speeds.

That's the human use-case factor. People by and large can often get by on tiny data caps because they don't have a lot of reasons to currently use it that much. But if you magically make the service so much better that the user actually *can* do these things they never did before, suddenly they start using it. And then...*BAM*


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By ebakke on 5/13/2013 3:16:31 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That's just it. If you never use Youtube, netflix, whatever on your cellular-service device because the bandwidth wouldn't let the stuff play well, you easily stayed under your cap. All of a sudden *bam* - you can stream anything you want. ...
I'm sure that's a valid usage scenario for some (many? most?) people. But for me, I currently have unlimited Verizon 4G LTE (including unlimited 4G hotspot) and I've never gone over 3GB in a month.

Because for me no matter how large of a data bucket I have, consuming content on a phone is still far less appealing than doing so on a laptop.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By Motoman on 5/13/2013 3:45:30 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly I have to agree with that. I haven't got the foggiest idea how anyone watches Netflix on their phone.

Anyway though, I tend to think more from the standpoint of people who have to live off of cellular data service as their one-and-only internet connection. Like, no cable or DSL available. Which, realistically, is tens of millions of US citizens.

They're the ones who don't have the slightest opportunity to participate in many aspects of the internet - including any and all streaming services. Or even Youtube, to a large extent.


By aliasfox on 5/13/2013 5:29:13 PM , Rating: 2
While Netflix may be off the table, faster speeds definitely increase usage. I'm on an iPhone running on TMobile's network. About six months ago, I started seeing stable 3G around NYC. Before then, I rarely even used Maps on the phone because the EDGE network was unbearably slow.

Now that I have 3G, it's useably fast on normal day to day stuff, so I surf more, Yelp more, Youtube more, etc. Downloading the day's podcasts takes about 3-5 minutes instead of an hour on EDGE - if I forget to do it at home on wi-fi, I can download them on my walk to the subway.

So yes, faster network connections will encourage greater use. Someone, somewhere will find a use for them, even if it's just the (pretty, but pretty much useless) 3D maps Apple came up with in iOS6.


By Roffles on 5/13/2013 6:12:48 PM , Rating: 2
It's almost like the telephone companies are saying, "you are only allowed to use your phones on our network for e-mail, mapping and light web browsing... and the 4G makes it faster and more convenient to do these simple tasks".

On Verizon, even if you shell out $100 for the 12GB tier, you could still go through all that bandwidth in ~1 hour if you were at peak speeds. You just can't use 4G for advanced computing and media consumption, they won't let you, not even on these new cortex A15 phones that are made for it. This makes 4G no better than 3G from an evolutionary standpoint. I see no reason why 5G would be any different.

I'm holding on to my unlimited data plan for as long as I can. I used to complain about my $100 wireless bill, but it gets more and more valuable every year. My $100/month unlimited plan vs. $160 12GB tiered data plan = $720/year more in costs. That much money saved puts a brand new flagship phone in my pocket every single year if I want it to.


By EnzoFX on 5/13/2013 12:45:27 PM , Rating: 2
Not to mention the fact that data caps have always been relative! I'm sure you had a 2GB data cap 7 years ago, and the same cap 7 years from now...


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By JackBurton on 5/13/2013 1:32:28 PM , Rating: 1
Ah the Internet, where every moronic 13 yr old thinks he's smart.

With the current plans, people struggle to keep under their data caps using LTE. Yes you will get data faster with the newer 5G, but you will also hit your cap faster which is the real problem. You want to stream a 1GB+ movie! Sure it will download faster with 5G, but you just ate through 25% of your MONTHLY data cap in one shot. I'm on LTE and have no issues downloading or buffering videos, but I have to watch my usage carefully. And you think increasing the speed will fix this? I'd take LTE speed with a 25GB data plan that's the same price as a 4GB data plan now, over faster wireless speed.


By Cheesew1z69 on 5/13/2013 6:03:13 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Ah the Internet, where every moronic 13 yr old thinks he's smart.
Pot...Kettle...


By retrospooty on 5/13/2013 8:05:04 PM , Rating: 2
I would highly doubt in the year 2020 with 5G speed that 2GB data plans will be the norm. You act like this is about to come out with todays plans and rail against it... Its still 7 years off.


RE: Wireless carriers will love this!!!
By cknobman on 5/13/2013 1:48:31 PM , Rating: 2
You don't understand the argument, therefore you're the idiot.

Increased speed = increased data usage.

Get out of your box and realize your usage habits != to everyone else.


By Reclaimer77 on 5/13/2013 3:18:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Increased speed = increased data usage.


And that's false. I do get the argument, it's just not true.

Increased speed has a higher potential for increased data, that however is true.

However increased speed is more about quality of life as far as I see it. It doesn't mean you HAVE to consume more data. It just means the things you want to do, get done faster than before.


By ebakke on 5/13/2013 3:40:16 PM , Rating: 2
Those who claim stupidity in others while showing off their own, amuse me greatly. Thanks for the chuckle.

As Reclaimer has already stated, your logic is flawed and the increased speed only allows higher usage; it does not guarantee it.


By Myrandex on 5/14/2013 11:00:44 AM , Rating: 2
Such an improvement! I can hit my 250MB limitation in 100 seconds today when I have a nice fast 20mbps LTE connection...

Jason


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