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*Lumia 928 is priced at $99 after a pesky $50 mail-in-rebate

Nokia's latest smartphone now officially has a date with Verizon Wireless: May 16. The new Nokia Lumia 928 packs in a 4.5" OLED (1280x768), a 1.5GHz dual core Snapdragon S4 processor, 32GB of storage space, an 8.7mp rear shooter with Carl Zeiss optics, a xenon flash, and NFC. The smartphone also manages to pack in a 2000 mAh battery.
 
Naturally, the Lumia 928 comes with PureView imaging and Optical Image Stabilization (OIS) in an effort to cut down on blurry pictures and improve nighttime shots.

 
The Lumia 928 is priced at $99 after a $50 mail-in-rebate (really, a MIR?) with a new 2-year contract. For a limited time, those who purchase a Lumia 928 will also get a $25 credit to use on Windows Phone apps and games.

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RE: No
By Mitch101 on 5/11/2013 10:43:03 AM , Rating: 0
Lets talk market share youve always had to worry about the day Verizon starts really carrying a higher end Windows Phone and that day is just about here and finally Windows Phone is starting to get global distribution so you can beat your chest all you want about market share but it wasnt relative till ALL GLOBAL carriers started carrying Windows Devices and I see your in denial about global sales where Windows phone is chipping into Android and iOS. Neither are going away but Windows Phone is a serious contender its an excellent OS.

The 920 is already a slightly better device than the Samsung S3. Look at the low light images, OIS, Indestructible videos, ability to use gloves with the touch screen. That doesn't make the S3 junk it certainly has a competitor with the Nokia 920/928 and the 928 especially at $99.00 with a $25 gift card to the market is a sweet deal.

As for the Galaxy S4 the Nokia Pureview will take a stab at that I believe around July the only advantage the S4 will be screen resolution while every other spec of the S4 might lose or be equal to the Nokia Pureview. You know the Nokia will have a much better camera and audio will be much better on the nokia and as every camera expert will tell you the camera is only good if you have it with you. Camera's on phones are the most important item out there because its generally with your all the time and Nokia will have far superior camera and audio abilities making pictures and video top notch youll be glad you had your Nokia phone on you to capture that moment.


RE: No
By Reclaimer77 on 5/11/2013 12:36:31 PM , Rating: 2
Okay I give up. It's apparently impossible to discuss this with you without you making accusations, acting defensive, and claiming I'm personally "worried" about Windows Phone or being paid by Samsung.

I wasn't even going to post here until I saw your immature comment about me.


RE: No
By Mitch101 on 5/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: No
By Reclaimer77 on 5/11/2013 1:41:33 PM , Rating: 2
By "give up" I meant on this subject with you for today. Since a reasonable discussion based on facts and data and market analysis is apparently out of the question.

Sorry to get your hopes up buddy, but you're small fish anyway.


RE: No
By sprockkets on 5/11/2013 10:42:01 PM , Rating: 3
Mitch you pretty much are one step away from being Tony Swash for Microsoft.


RE: No
By Mitch101 on 5/12/2013 9:44:47 AM , Rating: 2
Well for Windows Phone I can accept it. But Im not a fan of Surface RT. I think Android tablet or iPad mini is the way to go still until Microsoft can come up with a way to get Surface Pro under $300.00 but Intel's latest chip may do that even then they would still need more apps for the tablets.


RE: No
By V-Money on 5/11/2013 3:26:59 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
As for the Galaxy S4 the Nokia Pureview will take a stab at that I believe around July the only advantage the S4 will be screen resolution while every other spec of the S4 might lose or be equal to the Nokia Pureview. You know the Nokia will have a much better camera and audio will be much better on the nokia and as every camera expert will tell you the camera is only good if you have it with you. Camera's on phones are the most important item out there because its generally with your all the time and Nokia will have far superior camera and audio abilities making pictures and video top notch youll be glad you had your Nokia phone on you to capture that moment.


It's a good thing then that the Nexus 5 will be out around that same time. Obviously there is only speculation a this point but it is rumored the that Nexus 5 will focus on performance and the camera and will use technology from Nikon. So I guess it doesn't really matter how it will stack up against the S-IV since in the land of Android there is always a newer, better phone just around the corner.


RE: No
By Reclaimer77 on 5/12/2013 2:43:37 AM , Rating: 2
Does anyone else think it's crazy he thinks a better camera is going to be a big deal?

The average person out there, which I assume Microsoft is going after, could give a crap about their cameraphone as long as it's "good enough".


RE: No
By Mitch101 on 5/12/2013 9:50:05 AM , Rating: 2
Really because Good Enough is what I consider the Galaxy S3 and iPhone 5 to have for a camera and horrible audio recording on the both of them. What good is a concert experience if the low light recording is close to ghost hunters show and the audio sounds like your under water or clipping? But your in Luck the Nexus 5 and iPhone 6 might finally realize they cant just get by with good enough video and Audio you can thank Nokia for that.

So Yes a Camera and its Audio are a huge deal I don't want to carry a boat anchor of a DLSR or Micro 4/3 with me everywhere and I don't want my phone manufacturer to settle for good enough. Thats what made Nokia Great they push that envelope and Nokia is back.


RE: No
By retrospooty on 5/12/2013 10:07:21 AM , Rating: 2
It is a good phone and WP8 looks really good too, but for whatever reason its not taking off. People just don't seem to care... Your assertion that this will propel WP8 into a widely adopted platform is just between wishful thinking and pure fantasy. This is a small step up from previous phones that have failed to gain any real traction. Its all like WebOS and BBOS10 great OS's that no one cares about.


RE: No
By Mitch101 on 5/12/2013 12:22:49 PM , Rating: 2
When iPhone came out its only real competition was the Blackberry that was an easy win for Apple. When Android came along its competition was iPhone and it took a while until they finally got decent hardware to support it and it also proved one size doesn't fit all. They have had time to refine their stuff. Now comes Microsoft in an established market of Android and iPhone that's quite some competition there and tough to do something different or better to justify moving out of the eco system of Apple or away from Android where hardware varies according to taste. But they finally are able to go it with Nokia by offering in some areas a better product than Samsing. Nokia has an excellent reputation for hardware and innovation and Microsoft has a tough time competing in an established eco system but its starting to gain market share as more and more people discover how good it is. Just like the X-Box 360 is an excellent game console so it the Windows Phone 8 and excellent Platform it just needed a console/Nokia to deliver.

Windows phone outside the US is gaining ground its in the double digits in a number of places some places are starting to say its hitting 20% and in the US its finally starting to see growth but very soon it will be on Verizon and that market share will increase as more and more people realize Windows Phone 8 is a winning OS with the Hardware flexibility and power of anything in the Android camp with a great eco system. Windows Phone will succeed and grown.

Windows Phone is well funded too.

Microsoft will make $3.4 billion from Android in 2013
http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-will-make-34-...


RE: No
By retrospooty on 5/12/2013 5:23:50 PM , Rating: 3
Good luck with that...

When IOS grew it was far better than anything else on the market. When Android grew it was far more open, flexible and feature rich than anything else on the market. WP8 is neither.


RE: No
By Reclaimer77 on 5/12/2013 8:32:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Windows Phone is well funded too. Microsoft will make $3.4 billion from Android in 2013 http://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-will-make-34-...


Sigh, you DO sound like Tony Swash.

And do you realize the relevance of what you just posted? It's telling us that Microsoft makes far more revenue off Android than it's own platform! Hello! That's a win to you?


RE: No
By Mitch101 on 5/13/2013 8:29:00 AM , Rating: 2
Wait around for the next 2 quarters.


RE: No
By retrospooty on 5/13/2013 8:43:49 AM , Rating: 2
I will be here, and I might even own a WP phone myself at that time. I like WP8 and it looks like there are some larger screened higher res versions coming later this year and that is definitely on my shortlist... But you, me and a million others doesn't make it a hit. Like I said IOS was far better than anything else when it got huge... Android filled the gap with a better feature set, more flexibility, more price ranges etc. WP8 is good, so is BB10 but they really dont offer anything that the others dont already have. To knock the others out of their entrenched spots and get people to dump all their apps and pick a new platform you have to have something to draw them. A better platform, feature set... Something to make people want to switch. As IOS and Android grew they had that. I havent seen a single thing that WP8 or BB10 can do that will get the masses to switch... U less you can tell me some great feature I am unaware of.


RE: No
By Mitch101 on 5/13/2013 1:38:15 PM , Rating: 2
Its going to be slow but as more people use it they will get it.

As for above I technically want a camera thats also a phone the single most item I use on my phone is the camera for pictures and video so I want the best possible Audio and Video quality I can and the Nokia 920 is that until the Nokia EOS arrives. 2nd is the phone and coverage is king so you have to be on AT&T and Verizon. 3rd is GPS and Nokia make awesome maps app that doesnt require a data connection. 4th is Apps and Games and there is plenty to keep me interested.

This is why I dont even consider Apple they took a step backwards with thier latest camera on the 5 and the maps until google maps was available was a major catastrophy.

The Galaxy S3 failed on the camera and thats my number one so yes a camera is a buying point for me and quite sure a lot of others would greatly appreciate having a killer camera with them all the time since they carry thier phones all the time.

Having Microsoft office is also a plus that I use from time to time. Anything else everyone has it and if they dont there are 200 alternatives and some of them better than the originals.


RE: No
By nikon133 on 5/12/2013 7:16:50 PM , Rating: 2
Well... it is just a bit over 6 months for Windows Phone 8.x and a bit over year and half for Metro/Modern GUI in smartphones (if we count WP7)... and it is competing against iOS and Android, both modern touch-screen app-market supported platforms.

Considering where Android was in it's first two years of existence, I'd say WP8 is not doing bad - especially when you think that only real competitor for Android was iOS, everything else already going the way of dinosaurs.

For me, question is not if WP8 is doing fine - I think it is, relative to everything I have mentioned above; for me, the question is will WP8 platform manage to keep momentum? I'm hopeful. 2 million smartphones for Nokia in Christmas 2011 quarter, 4 million in Christmass 2012 quarter, but more important - 5.6 million in post-Christmass quarter which is usually slower than Christmass one. I think those results are actually better than what iPhone was selling at the same stage after it's release. User satisfaction with WP8 seems to be extremely good - Lumia 920 was voted best smartphone by Engadget readers, for example - and I hope they've established beachead - critical mass of owners that will keep spreading platform by word of mouth, alongside proper advertising.


RE: No
By retrospooty on 5/13/2013 8:52:11 AM , Rating: 2
You need to look at the timing. Android filled a huge chunk of the market that IOS didnt. There was a huge largely untapped market that IOS and Android filled. WP 8 just caught up. There is no huge untapped market that WP8 fills. There is no major draw to make people switch. IOS was better than anything else at the time. Android filled the gap with a batter feature set and more flexibility. WP8 has what? Simply "catching up" isnt going to do it.


RE: No
By Labotomizer on 5/13/2013 1:41:45 PM , Rating: 2
There is a large, untapped market out there. We just crossed 50% on smartphone usage in the US. Which means there's somewhere around 45% of people who have yet to choose a platform. So it's not too late.

I also think WP8 is hitting critical mass with apps. Supposedly Instagram is around the corner and most of the other major ones are out there. Support for the Unity gaming engine is helping gaming development for cross platform titles.

As for the whole camera argument, there are people who value a quality camera on a smartphone and others who don't care. I think the camera is relevant to more people than the CPU specs. Most people care if a phone can do what they need. Email, text, facebook, twitter, instagram, Vine, games and appointments.

I am a huge fan of WP8. But if I were heavily vested in iOS or Android, which is the camp that a lot of people find themselves in, is it better to a level it's worth switching. That's the question. I feel that WP8 is as good as iOS and Android in almost every area. There are some places it's better, there are some places it's worse. But I think it's on equal footing. The problem is being equal isn't good enough to make people switch to an all new platform.

I am buying my wife the 928 when it comes out this week. I've got the 8X. She'll miss a few (stupid) games but other than that it's a better fit. The Rooms feature will be awesome for us. And she loves taking pics on her phone so the camera is a huge plus. If the HTC One were out on VZW already I'd be hardpressed not to go that route though.


RE: No
By retrospooty on 5/13/2013 4:52:25 PM , Rating: 2
Call me when they break 10% worldwide. I truly hope they do... But I doubt it.


RE: No
By nikon133 on 5/13/2013 7:03:45 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think smartphone market is already saturated - there is still plenty space to grow. In addition, I don't think that current market share is set in stone - people do and will switch on occasion.

WP has what? This is sort of personal, value of any product. I cannot talk for everyone, but in my case... I've been using iPhone 3Gs from 2009. While it still cover my smartphone needs, I am not at all motivated to get latest iPhone. Platform has attractive UX factor but GUI was already tried-and-familiar icons matrix that I had on my old Palm devices, my Windows desktop... In 2011 I got Asus Transformer tablet. While Google pushed UX with notifications, widgets... underlying concept was unchanged.

I see W8/WP8 as real advantage in both GUI and UX. It works for me. I use tiles regularly to see if I have new emails, calendar events, messages from mates... without having to run app or open web page. Granted I didn't have a chance to use WP8 phone, but based on my experience with W8 desktop, laptop and tablet (I ad opportunity to trial Lenovo ThinkPad tablet 2 for two weeks), I really like fluidity one moves with through GUI.

So, again, for me - WP8 is catching up in terms of market share and app library, but it is also a step above in terms of usability. Not that I cannot do everything on iOS or Android, but I like more how it is being done on WP8. That is a value WP8 has for me, but how many others think the same now and, more important, how many will think the same in 3, 6, 12 months time - that remains to be seen.


RE: No
By Reclaimer77 on 5/12/2013 8:28:49 PM , Rating: 2
Uhh you're kidding yourself if you think any camera on a phone, even Nokia's, is going to stand up to a DSLR. The problem with smartphone cameras is physics. The camera lens just isn't large enough to produce a truly great image.

You are totally being like a Tony Swash, the other poster is right, I'm NOT debating you on the quality of Nokia's audio and video. Stop trying to sell me on it, I get it. But it doesn't matter.

My point is that it's not really going to be enough to sell the phone to the consumer. You cannot build a Windows Phone dynasty on "Hey, we have better cameras".


RE: No
By Mitch101 on 5/13/2013 10:09:34 AM , Rating: 2
Love how you twist words. I expect better from a phone than just good enough. The camera should at least be something worth using and not having to carry around a point and shoot. No one expects DLSR out of a phone but it should be on par with Point and shoot minus the zoom. Sorry if your Samsung S3 falls short of what Nokia is capable of doing with the 920/928.

You should read the Galaxy S4 reviews on the hanging and stuttering even on the 8 core processor. How many cores will it take before Android gets to smooth and stable? While Windows Phone is smooth as silk on a old single core 800mhz chip. Sorry but the Windows Phone OS is incredible.

While you may not be impressed with Windows Phone market share its growing and people are discovering how good it is its only a matter of time till people embrace it the same level as the X-Box 360 as a Microsoft knows what they are doing product.

Thought you were done with this Samsung Paid shill?


RE: No
By Reclaimer77 on 5/13/2013 12:08:06 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
You should read the Galaxy S4 reviews on the hanging and stuttering even on the 8 core processor. How many cores will it take before Android gets to smooth and stable?


Nice try. Samsung is running anything but stock Android. They've packed a TON of custom software and UI schemes ontop of Android. There's so many features on the S4, I barely know half of them. If even one of those is buggy it could cause the problems you mention.

I don't own an S3, so your hostile "Samsung shill" only proves you want to troll not discuss. My current phone is an old Motorola Droid Razr because my GS2 was dropped in a toiled by yours truly months ago. Which has a dual core, and Jelly Bean is buttery smooth on it. So the whole "zomg Android is laggy" thing is a stereotype from years ago.

Why are you being so hostile about this stuff anyway? It's ridiculous.

quote:
I expect better from a phone than just good enough.


AND THAT'S GREAT!

Again, my god how many times must I say it, I don't think the AVERAGE person cares as much as you about the camera. As long as the pics are "good enough" for Facebook or whatever, they think nothing of it.

And if you think I'm wrong about that, fine, but you're the one twisting my words. I'm talking about what moves phone sales!

quote:
While you may not be impressed with Windows Phone


/sigh facepalm

Clearly more people than me are not impressed with Windows Phone! Hello? This isn't Reclaimer vs Microsoft, idiot! Wtf is wrong with you?


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