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She was arrested and charged for possession and discharge of a weapon on school property too

A teenage girl from Florida has been expelled from her high school for an accidental explosion caused by mixing chemicals together [outside] on school grounds.

Kiera Wilmot, 16, a Bartow High School student in Florida, was expelled from school when her chemistry experiment exploded. She was mixing some household chemicals (toilet cleaner and aluminum foil) in an 8-ounce water bottle when the top popped off unexpectedly and an explosion occurred.

According to Wilmot, she thought this combination would simply create a bit of smoke, and that the explosion was an accident.

However, Wilmot was arrested on Monday and charged with possession and discharge of a weapon on school property and discharging a destructive device. 

Kiera Wilmot

She was also expelled from school, and will now have to continue her high school career in an expulsion program.

These extreme consequences are due to zero-tolerance programs, which were enacted in schools in 1994. At that time, Congress required states to adopt laws that expelled students who brought firearms to school for at least a year. All 50 states adopted the laws in order to receive federal funding.

Many are in opposition of these laws, saying that it isn't fair to good kids who make occasional mistakes. Many oppose what happened to Wilmot as well, but the school district has responded to the incident saying that they reacted properly, as the law requires. 

"Unfortunately, what she did falls into our code of conduct," Leah Lauderdale, a spokeswoman for the district, tells Riptide. "It's grounds for immediate expulsion.

"We urge our parents to convey to their kids that there are consequences to their actions."

Lauderdale said Wilmot can challenge her expulsion, but there's no word on whether she has or not at this point. 

Sources: Yahoo News, Huffington Post, Miami New Times



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Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/3/2013 2:08:17 PM , Rating: 3
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She was mixing some household chemicals (toilet cleaner and aluminum foil)


...that's been a bomb since I was in college. At least. You know...shortly after the last ice age.

That's not a HS chemistry experiment.

It's a bomb. Not a highly-destructive one, mind you...they tend to make a loud noise and generate some smoke - and then the spray might peel the paint off of whatever it landed on...but that's about it. Still - the sole purpose of doing such a thing is to make something blow up.




RE: Ummm...
By BRB29 on 5/3/2013 3:11:29 PM , Rating: 2
I have to agree with motoman on this one. This is a known home formula to cause destruction. There's many cities facing this kind of attacks all the time. Some people get seriously hurt because of this.

I don't know how she can expect a little fizz and smoke when every video I've seen of this has resulted in explosion. This was all over the news a few years back.


RE: Ummm...
By kleinma on 5/3/2013 4:28:03 PM , Rating: 2
Not for nothing, and maybe she knew what she was doing, but what does it matter that it was on the news a few years back? This girl is 16 now. You are going to assign blame based on the fact that a girl that was maybe 12-13 didn't catch a news story on what house hold mixtures can create explosions?


RE: Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/3/2013 4:34:28 PM , Rating: 1
People have been making Drano bombs for a minimum of 20 years. And what she was doing was *exactly* that - she was following instructions someone gave her to make a bomb.

Period.

You may as well claim that she didn't know that pouring gas on a cat and throwing a match at it would cause it to burn to death. When was the last time that was reported on TV?


RE: Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/3/2013 4:39:53 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Wilmot told him a friend had told her to mix the two substances, but that she "thought it would just cause some smoke." She told the school official she wasn't trying to hurt anyone or disrupt school, but was simply "conducting a science fair experiment."

The assistant principal called police after talking to Wilmot's science teacher and determining he didn't know about the experiment.


From the local news link. You reckon "a friend told me to do this" is a basis for an actual science fair experiment? How about the fact she did it away from the school, without alerting any school officials - let alone her science teacher - as to what she was doing?

She was making a Drano bomb, and she was aware she was making a Drano bomb, and after she got caught making a Drano bomb she decided to pretend it was all "for science."


RE: Ummm...
By Kefner on 5/3/2013 5:13:24 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly, I never heard of these combining to make anything. Know the old vinegar and baking soda thing, but never hear of toilet cleaner and aluminum foil. Sorry if I, or this young lady haven't kept up with every single news story out there! :)


RE: Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/3/2013 6:20:57 PM , Rating: 2
Forget news story.

This is like claiming you'd never heard of cooking an egg on the sidewalk.


RE: Ummm...
By FaaR on 5/3/2013 7:44:18 PM , Rating: 3
You don't know what she knew, or thought she knew or anything of the sort. Get off your high horse and stop pretending you're the moral compass of the universe.

Regardless of what this girl knew or not, what she did happened off school grounds, and should of course not warrant expulsion, that's totally ridiculous and draconian. Then again, the US has been marching towards a totalitarian taliban police state for decades (a development eagerly applauded by people like you who think they know everything even though they weren't there, I might add), so this story should not surprise anyone.


RE: Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/4/13, Rating: -1
RE: Ummm...
By Camikazi on 5/4/2013 11:29:35 AM , Rating: 2
30 years old here and have made quite a few "bombs" from dry ice and other things and have never heard of this combination (will probably try it out soon though). Don't go around assuming that what you know is known by every other person around. Anyway, intentional or not she did not do this on school grounds which means the school has no reason to expel her at all.


RE: Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/4/2013 12:17:43 PM , Rating: 2
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According to an officer, an assistant principal heard an explosion near a gazebo on the school grounds and found Wilmot near a plastic bottle.


...from the local news article.

You should try reading some time.

There's no chance she didn't know she was making something that would blow up. Especially at the direction "of her friend" - and considering all the Drano bomb videos on Youtube and everywhere else.

Note that I haven't said *anything* about whether or not the school's punishment was justified. I'm simply pointing out that there's no way she was just "doing a science experiment."


RE: Ummm...
By Camikazi on 5/4/2013 4:59:08 PM , Rating: 2
I do read but I don't go to the source unless the story really interests me, which this one didn't, and this article didn't state it was on school grounds originally.


RE: Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/4/2013 6:47:14 PM , Rating: 2
Then I accept your admission that you're wrong, and that your comments are therefore invalid.


RE: Ummm...
By leftcheek on 5/12/2013 4:06:30 PM , Rating: 2
Same here never heard of the drano bomb.


RE: Ummm...
By Reclaimer77 on 5/5/2013 2:08:14 PM , Rating: 1
It's Daily Tech lol. I can believe it.

The stupidity of, well, nearly everyone here besides you and I is stunning.

I can't believe people are equating what this girl did with "science experiments" and, of all things, Albert Einstein and the nuclear bomb?? Just...wtf?

Is everyone here an adolescent with an extreme dislike of teachers and schools? Because the posts here nearly all have that tone, and it's embarrassing.

A modicum of common sense and maturity here would go a long way. The fact that Motoman is nearly alone on this is just depressing.


RE: Ummm...
By BRB29 on 5/6/2013 8:00:43 AM , Rating: 2
One of the few times I will agree with reclaimer77. This is not an experiment, it is stupidity from watching youtube videos. The best thing the article can say is that she's a good student that never got into trouble. So basically, she's a C or B student that has not been expelled, suspended or have any problems with law enforcement yet. Geez, as a teenager, I really hope you haven't gotten into trouble.

Alert Einstein original intention was not to create an atomic bomb to cause destruction. The man is credited for saving humanity more than anything. In fact, you can thank him for nuclear power along with GPS. Most new discoveries in physics are just an extension of his work. Our 2 spacecrafts wouldn't have made it out to interstellar space if it wasn't for Einstein's work. We are still deciphering a lot of his work today and finally proving it's true.


RE: Ummm...
By superflex on 5/6/2013 9:02:04 AM , Rating: 2
Agreed,
The average age of posters defending with the girl is probably somewhere in their 20's.
This POS made a bomb. She knew what the result would be and she did it on school grounds. If she did this at my daughter's high school, I would hope she would be treated the same. You cannot endanger your classmates and feign ignorance.
DT and DC Tiffany using "science experiment" in the title is partly to blame. Ignorant people read a title, skim the opining of Tiffany, and skip the link to the true story and you wonder why America is in decline.
Must of these turds defending this ignorant student get their news from Twitter and social media.
Low information voters at their best.


RE: Ummm...
By bsd228 on 5/6/2013 5:01:58 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Is everyone here an adolescent with an extreme dislike of teachers and schools? Because the posts here nearly all have that tone, and it's embarrassing. A modicum of common sense and maturity here would go a long way. The fact that Motoman is nearly alone on this is just depressing.


Common sense is to presume evil intent and expel from school? That is truly depressing.

I can't tell if the anger here is driven by sexism or the stupidity stemming from zero tolerance policy. I know that in high school I was highly interested in chemical reactions that had a bang. I loved testing that methanol (which I made in a tube) did actually burn. It's a very short step to doing an experiment that back fires. You don't give a kid a free pass for that sort of error, but expulsion seems to be an odd form of 'curiosity killing the cat.'

Now those of you convinced she was practicing bomb making for bad reasons - why would she do her trial run on campus, then?


RE: Ummm...
By 8meagain on 5/10/2013 9:15:58 AM , Rating: 1
Ok, after that rant, I feel it is my duty to DOWN rate you!
RANTING as everyone knows is the 1st step to becoming a terrorists...

You are probably just pissed at the girl because she caused people to notice all the aluminum foil & toilet cleaner you have been buying...


RE: Ummm...
By Wolfpup on 5/10/2013 2:00:13 PM , Rating: 1
These things are not "common knowledge".

It sounds like we've got an inquisitive high school student, and instead of rewarding that, we're punishing her. Fantastic. I hope this doesn't hurt her self esteem nor her willingness to explore.


RE: Ummm...
By OCNewbie on 5/6/2013 10:01:43 AM , Rating: 2
First sentence of the story:

quote:
A teenage girl from Florida has been expelled from her high school for an accidental explosion caused by mixing chemicals together [outside] on school grounds .


RE: Ummm...
By Dr of crap on 5/6/2013 12:39:41 PM , Rating: 2
So she wanted to see if it worked.
That's a GOOD reason to expel her. This is the gray area where there "no" policy needs to bend.


RE: Ummm...
By crispbp04 on 5/6/2013 9:59:23 AM , Rating: 2
not for nothing? you must be from Jersey.


RE: Ummm...
By m51 on 5/3/2013 6:21:47 PM , Rating: 5
It's Actually not a bomb. Lye and aluminum is a good way to make hydrogen gas. Used to do that myself back in high school and fill balloons with it. Before helium was so readily available.
The reaction is quite exothermic though and as it heats up it accelerates. I went through a few trial and errors before I got the hang of how to set it up so it didn't boil over. If you put it in an unvented container the pressure builds up till the lid pops off.

it's no more a bomb than heating a can of soup till it explodes.

The over reaction of the authorities is a combination of ignorance and a petty tyrant mentality. A sad reflection on society. I predict this student will be much more successful in life than any of the authorities involved.


RE: Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/3/13, Rating: -1
RE: Ummm...
By m51 on 5/4/2013 10:34:33 PM , Rating: 1
By your definition anybody popping packing bubbles is making bombs...

Classic fundamentalist mentality, everything is black and white. Every answer is simple.


RE: Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/5/2013 10:47:41 AM , Rating: 1
You're retarded, and you're being retarded.

Your assertion that popping packing bubbles is "making bombs" is just as stupid as your assertion that making a Drano bomb isn't making a bomb.

You even described it yourself!

quote:
If you put it in an unvented container the pressure builds up till the lid pops off.


...only you're poo-pooing the reaction there. If you put a lid on it - like in a plastic soda bottle - the lid doesn't "pop off" - the bottle explodes.

Like a bomb. Which is what it is. Which is what you know it to be, despite your continued insistence on pretending it's something else.

Horrifically stupid people like you are ruining the world. Force this girl to take responsibility for her actions and own up to what she did, rather than pretend that her "science experiment" excuse is even slightly valid. Look at what you'd be teaching - "go ahead and do whatever you want...if you get caught, lie about it and maybe you'll get away with it."

Is that the values you think people should be taught?


RE: Ummm...
By M'n'M on 5/5/2013 11:18:26 AM , Rating: 2
If I blow and blow into a balloon and it pops ... is that now a "bomb" ? There's a lot of comment going on here w/no knowledge of her intent. Find me a teenager who hasn't played with illegal fireworks. Does that brand all off them terrorists, or even delinquents, in the making ? No, obviously not. The schools policy on this is a stupid as expelling kids for bringing a squirt gun to class (due to a no firearms policy). That the DA decided to arrest the kid rather than opening an investigation is equally stupid. We'll have to wait and see if charges are brought or if some sensibility will prevail.

Imagine if every speeding violation was treated as if it were speeding through the grade school parking lot doing 80 mph at recess. Adults would demand a degree of proportionality. Instead we teach the kids it's all or nothing. That's also the wrong lesson for them to learn.


RE: Ummm...
By Motoman on 5/5/2013 6:30:29 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
There's a lot of comment going on here w/no knowledge of her intent.


Her intent was to make a Drano bomb, following instructions from her friend to do so.

That's what she did. On school grounds. Without having alerted any school officials as to what she was doing.

There categorically is no doubt that her intent was to make a Drano bomb. There is not the slightest way anyone can give any credence to her "science experiment" excuse.

And AGAIN, I have made no statement whatsoever regarding whether or not the punishment was appropriate. I would just like all the world's retards to stop pretending she was doing anything other than making a Drano bomb, and that she didn't know exactly what was going to happen.


RE: Ummm...
By BRB29 on 5/6/2013 9:17:59 AM , Rating: 2
lol it's because people don't read past the author's bias. They failed to look past the sugar coated words. They failed to do further research besides what's presented in front of them.

This is all over the news and youtube. A simple google pops up more results than you want to see. None of them says the result is just some smoke. All of them says it could take off your fingers and cause burns from the acid. She did this on her own for her own enjoyment.

Lol, I don't know how so many people can't understand that every experiment yielded an explosion. But somehow her explosion was an accident. Give me a kit kat bar.

Do I think she should be expelled? no
She should be suspended for a couple weeks, kept on probation and have a serious talk with the police. Keep her away from the school and everyone else will only increases her chance of being a real criminal.


RE: Ummm...
By M'n'M on 5/6/2013 1:12:04 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
She did this on her own for her own enjoyment.

I agree and it's what I was trying to point out above. I don't believe it was her intent to harm anyone or anything. Being malicious or actually dangerous to others would warrant the actions taken to date. If she or her friend had been injured ... too bad for them. That would certainly have been a learning experience.

Punishments that don't account for the severity of the crime and intent are stupid.

What I've yet to hear is why this was done on school property. When we kids did (worse) "experiments" with real explosives, we always did them in the woods far away from adult eyes and ears.


RE: Ummm...
By heerohawwah on 5/5/2013 12:13:58 PM , Rating: 2
Actually it is a bomb, its called a pop bottle bomb, and obviously you didn't make very many if you did. You use a 600ml bottle not a big one...builds the pressure faster. If someone was holding onto the bottle when it went off or had it near their head...wow not fun with a lot of blood. This is of course before you even start to add other ingredients like gasoline which work just fine if you provide an ignition source.
Did the authorities over react? Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that it was a dumb ass thing to do.


RE: Ummm...
By LRonaldHubbs on 5/6/2013 9:53:57 AM , Rating: 2
Plax bottles work the best IMO. The locking safety caps hold on incredibly well, and the bottle itself is a thick, sturdy plastic. The bottle will actually deform into a cylinder and nearly double in length before it finally tears.

Definitely this was a dumb thing for her to do. They are definitely dangerous, not just because of the explosion itself, but also the hot caustic fluid which gets sprayed in all directions.


RE: Ummm...
By superflex on 5/6/2013 9:08:25 AM , Rating: 2
So, in your mind, an exothermic reaction is not a bomb. What about the fact when the pressure exceeds the bottles capacity to contain it, everyone in the area gets doused with a hot caustic liquid. I guess it's OK to throw lye in someones face too?
You sir are an idiot and shouldn't breed or vote.


RE: Ummm...
By retrospooty on 5/4/2013 9:29:54 AM , Rating: 2
"That's not a HS chemistry experiment."

Exactly... While I disagree with it being called "a bomb", it has been used for generations as a method of causing mayhem and couldnt have been done by accident. If someone did it, the purpose was to cause mayhem, the same as when my friend set off a stink bomb (small bottle of a rotten egg smelling fluid)in the gym in Jr. High... No damage done, it just stunk to hell. Had he been caught, he would have, and should have been expelled.


RE: Ummm...
By LRonaldHubbs on 5/6/2013 9:49:11 AM , Rating: 2
I agree. She clearly made a bomb and set it off on school property. It wasn't a science experiment. It had nothing to do with her classes and the science teachers were not aware of it. These types of bombs are common knowledge among teens, and she even admitted to doing it because a friend told her to. She got caught and now she wants to weasle out of it by pretending it was science experiment. She's full of it and she knows it.

Not sure what the punishment should be. Felony charges for this are absurd, and even expulsion seems excessive unless they can prove that she meant harm by doing this (which doesn't seem to be the case).


RE: Ummm...
By jthistle on 5/6/2013 1:23:30 PM , Rating: 2
Given sufficient volume and an open flame it can be very dangerous.

2HCl+2Al = H2 + 2AlCl

Ignite that hydrogen gas and you get a big flame explosion.

At her age she should have had enough Chemistry to know this "experiment" was a bad thing. The HS did the right thing.


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