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States want more money to fix roads

Lawmakers in Michigan are currently considering imposing a tax on electric vehicles. Michigan joins Oregon, Texas, Virginia, Arizona, and Washington, which are also considering a tax on both electric and hybrid vehicles. States currently collect taxes when drivers purchase gasoline that helps fund the construction of new roads and maintenance on existing roads.

The problem is that electric vehicles don't use gasoline at all and hybrid vehicles use less gasoline than a traditional car meaning states are seeing less tax revenue.
 
Michigan State Rep. Mike Shirkey (R) proposed the tax on electric cars.
 
Michigan Rick Snyder (R) wants an additional $1 billion to repair roads around the state. In the past, Snyder has supported other ways to raise more money within his state including increasing the tax on fuel and increasing vehicle registration fees.
 
Governor Snyder said of Shirkey's plan, "I’d have to analyze that, but I’d say there’s competing interests on both sides of that question."

In Oregon, the plan would charge drivers of vehicles that get at least 55 mpg a tax on each mile driven after 2015. Oregon would also give drivers of efficient vehicles the option of paying a flat rate each year. Drivers of electric vehicles in Washington are expected have to pay a fee of $100 per year to help cover road maintenance.

Source: Michigan Radio



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How about they use the money they already get
By cknobman on 4/26/2013 9:25:00 AM , Rating: 5
The real issue is the fact that these states misuse the revenue they collect already.

There are more drivers than ever pumping record numbers of gas each day fueling record tax revenues to build and repair roads already. If the States would actually use all of that tax money for what it is intended for they would have more than enough.

As it stands in my area ALL new freeways are privately contracted and build as toll roads so they dont spend any tax revenue on that.




RE: How about they use the money they already get
By quiksilvr on 4/26/2013 9:33:43 AM , Rating: 2
The reason why roads in Michigan sucks is because its frigging Michigan. It snows for months at a time (hell, it snowed last night) and upkeep is getting more and more expensive. Now I'm not sure how taxing EV drivers will help with this (last time I checked, there weren't that many of those on the road).

I know this may sound tinfoil haty to some but I believe given that most of the car makers in Michigan are not making electrical vehicles, its possible this is just a scheme to discourage EVs in the state even further.


By notposting on 4/26/2013 9:43:42 AM , Rating: 2
The roads in WI, OH, IN are not in the same condition. Our total gas tax is quite high, but a large percentage of it is currently SALES tax, which does not fund the roads. And the gas tax that is for the roads is a static amount (19 cents per gallon IIRC). Snyder did propose changing the taxation to a variable amount on the wholesale price, but the legislature here can't fathom such incredible change. :/ :P


RE: How about they use the money they already get
By 91TTZ on 4/26/2013 10:34:48 AM , Rating: 2
Yeah, but those states don't have the black hole that is Detroit.

Seriously, I think that place is a huge net money loser for the state.


RE: How about they use the money they already get
By kypd275 on 4/26/2013 11:15:42 AM , Rating: 2
no need for "think", it IS.

the whole circus around the appointment of an emergency manager to unfk the cesspool that is Detroit just further illustrate how inept some people who live in/run that crap hole is.


By paydirt on 4/29/2013 7:00:48 AM , Rating: 2
The first comment is wrong. Vehicle miles driven has declined in the US. Search for vehicle miles and DShort or Doug Short


By Reclaimer77 on 4/27/2013 11:36:36 AM , Rating: 2
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Now I'm not sure how taxing EV drivers will help with this (last time I checked, there weren't that many of those on the road).


Time for them to pay their "fair share" like the rest of us. It's just that simple.

quote:
I know this may sound tinfoil haty to some but I believe given that most of the car makers in Michigan are not making electrical vehicles, its possible this is just a scheme to discourage EVs in the state even further.


???

Yeah that's pretty out there. If you can afford an EV, you can easily afford the same taxes you were paying before with your ICE car.


By othercents on 4/26/2013 9:45:49 AM , Rating: 2
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There are more drivers than ever pumping record numbers of gas each day fueling record tax revenues to build and repair roads already.

So would that mean there are more cars on the road causing more road wear and now roads needing repair sooner than before?

In reality, at some point all states will need to come up with a different way to collect taxes for road use and due to the electric vehicles it really shouldn't be based on fuel usage, but actual mileage driven in the state. Then if they want to deter people from having gasoline vehicles and encourage people to switch then they could tack an extra tax on the fuel.


By 91TTZ on 4/26/2013 10:37:30 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
So would that mean there are more cars on the road causing more road wear and now roads needing repair sooner than before?


He's saying that if every car driver paid for the roads in gas taxes, then having more drivers wouldn't be worse for the roads. You'd have more wear and tear but you'd also have more revenue to repair the roads.


By Reclaimer77 on 4/27/2013 11:45:34 AM , Rating: 3
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In reality, at some point all states will need to come up with a different way to collect taxes for road use


Or how about this amazing new idea called actually use the money for the road funds to fix the roads ?

Road funds and other infrastructure budgets are, in reality, gigantic slush funds used to fuel all kinds of pork barrel projects, kickbacks to union cronies, and who knows what.

A few miles down the road here a girl was killed at a crosswalk. One that's notorious for being unsafe, many accidents with pedestrians caused. When asked why a sidewalk wasn't built to a safer crossing, the city responded that they simply "didn't have the money" to build a sidewalk. Oh really?

They found the money to build a goddamn NASCAR museum nobody wanted. They found the money to erect ugly "modern art" statues downtown that cost millions of dollars. I can't even list all the crap they waste our money on! But when it comes to some small ass piece of sidewalk, oh no, we need more tax money if you guys want that! Really?

It makes me sick how we're being manipulated and how our Government, both local and Federal, uses taxes as almost a form of blackmail.


By FITCamaro on 4/26/2013 2:36:57 PM , Rating: 1
Maybe overall, but not necessarily in Michigan. States are eventually going to have to charge EV drivers a fee each month/year or per mile to pay for roads if what liberals want to happen happens. Otherwise roads won't get fixed.

We need to end all road funding from the federal government except for the interstates which is what the highway fund is supposed to be for. The federal government has no business providing funding for local light rail projects or any other state road project.


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