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  (Source: Cult of Mac)
And that's all without the Galaxy S IV even; Samsung is almost even with Apple in profitability

While reviewers were generally enthusiastic, but a bit critical of Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd.'s (KSC:005930) hot new flagship phone -- the Galaxy S IV -- the company has little to feel bad about currently.  Even without the GSIV anchoring its Android tag team, Samsung managed to crush rival Apple, Inc. (AAPL) in unit sales and deliver a fiscal performance that blew past analyst estimates.

The high profit was a bit of a surprise -- a survey of 10 analysts by UK-based Financial Times, a Pearson PLC unit (LON:PSON), found an expectation of 8.0T won ($7.2B USD) in profit.  A newer compilation by Bloomberg of 39 analysts' predictions showed an average expectation for 8.4T won ($7.6B USD) in profit.

Instead, Samsung delivered 8.8T won ($7.9B USD) profit, up over 50 percent from the 5.7T won ($5.1B USD) profit it posted in the first calendar quarter of 2012 and 10 percent better than the early analyst estimates.  The Android mobile division drove the big win. 6.51T won ($5.7B USD) of the profit -- nearly three-quarters -- came from the mobile unit.  Total revenue came in at 52.87T won ($47.6B USD).  These figures were in line with Samsung's estimate released near the start of the month.
 
After years of Apple fans and shareholders mocking Samsung as "less profitable", Samsung is almost even with Apple in profitability.  Apple reported its first quarter results at the start of the week, announcing its first YOY decline in profit in a decade.

Apple has seen its momentum halted by the death of its iconic leader Steven P. Jobs (in 2011) and then by disappointment over the iPhone 5 sales growth and hardware. Google meanwhile has surged as Apple's court bid to ban Android stalled [1][2], and as its OEM partners pounced on Apple in terms of hardware offerings.  Stock and profit for Apple are riding at recent lows.  Apple's supporters point to new products and refreshes, optimistically -- but Samsung is boasting the same upcoming events (see: Samsung Smart Watch, for example).

Here's a quick recap on how the two companies are stacking up:

Apple v. Samsung

Samsung appears poised to potentially pass Apple in profit in Q2. And early indications show that if the Galaxy S IV has any problem it will be in being unable to keep up with wild demand.  

The phone is launching in coming weeks on 327 mobile carriers in 155 countries, backed by a massive global advertising campaign that kicked off this week.  In the U.S. Samsung has paired with top brick-and-mortar electronics retailer Best Buy Comp., Inc. (BBY) to set up "mini-stores" promoting the phone within Best Buy's retail locations.

Galaxy S IV
Galaxy S IV preorders are higher than expected [Image Source: Samsung]

According to Reuters, the very high level of preorders have surprised even analysts, and indicate that Samsung may struggle to fulfill demand.  That's a pretty good problem to have, though.

Samsung hopes to sell 390 million smartphones this year.

Source: Samsung



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RE: Profiting off of fragile phones
By Lord 666 on 4/26/2013 10:31:54 PM , Rating: -1
Where is the anecdotal evidence? Have concrete numerator and denominators along with specific trending. Within the cohort in question, it is factual the SG3s have a higher incidence of damage.

It was actually due to a post-Sandy review that I am swapping out all non-Active Sync devices prior to hurricane season. The project includes the witnessed mtbf on the SG3 versus Razr products. Yes, one person has gone through four SG3s; three with smashed screens and one lost. Issued that person an Otterbox and felt it made the phone too bulky.

There are zero iPhones within the population of the study. Its laughable the anecdotal knee jerk reaction that automatically includes iPhones.

My original post questioned the strong sales of Samsung and am interested in seeing the actual numbers of conquest sales (basic phone to smartphone and non-samsung smartphone to samsung) and same device replacement sales. These statistics are actively measured and monitored by wireless carriers. Would gander that much of Samsung's recent sales are based on the heavy marketing campaign versus tangible reasons. Even Consumer reports has the Razr HD Maxx, HD, SG3, and iPhone 5 in that order for Verizon. Even on the VZW site, the HD Maxx is higher rated than the SG3.

I'm not a fanboy of any type, just beat the snot out of my gear and expect my colleagues to do the same. So that being said, place a premium on quality and reliable kit.


RE: Profiting off of fragile phones
By SlyNine on 4/26/2013 11:57:55 PM , Rating: 4
What he clearly meant was your sample is pathetic and you cannot infer any reasonable data from that limited sample.

If these other sources you mention have data supporting your hypothesis, then you should have cited them instead. As it stands you are committing the fallacy; begging the question, by implying that perhaps Samsung isn't as hardy as the IP4 and that Samsung is only beating apple because of their inferior product (again IMPLYING).


RE: Profiting off of fragile phones
By Solandri on 4/27/2013 12:20:16 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Where is the anecdotal evidence?

I've put it in bold for you.
quote:
Of the 12 or so people who I know who have SG3s

As the saying goes, the plural of anecdote is not data. A proper sample would control for factors like how roughly or carefully people handle their phones (also whether it's a personal or company-provided phone), how many hours/day the phones are used (and thus vulnerable to being dropped), height of the person, the environment they're most often used in (carpeted floor or outdoors on concrete), etc. And even after you control for those, the angle the phone hits the ground will make a huge difference too.

I haven't seen any studies which attempt to systematically answer the question of phone durability. It'd probably be too expensive because you'd have to destroy so many phones. The manufacturers probably do get breakage statistics from their retailers, but even that is to some extent a self-selected sample. Occasionally I do see different devices treated the exact same way, making it worthy of mentioning, but still not what I'd call reliable data.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MMmLQlrBws#t=0m29s

For me personally, it's an academic point. Over the last 15 years I've dropped each phone I've owned about a dozen times. The only screen I've managed to smash was one which fell out of my pocket as I was closing the car door and got crushed between the door and frame (the plastic-body phone bounced back to shape and still worked btw; I suspect a metal one would've deformed and lost battery contact). So if one does finally break from a drop, I'm more inclined to chalk it up to plain bad luck (i.e. it happened to hit the ground just right to break it) before I'll attribute it to a design defect.


RE: Profiting off of fragile phones
By BRB29 on 4/29/2013 8:37:02 AM , Rating: 1
A sample set of 12 is not statistically effective. Your chart wouldn't make any sense. I can't wait to see how wide your predictions are with a 95 or 99% confidence.

Also, I don't know of too many companies handing out GS3s for corporate use. It's not a good corporate phone. I've seen more iphones and motorolas than anything else.

IDK who made the decision for using GS3s but it is more of a consumer phone and it's excellent at that.


RE: Profiting off of fragile phones
By retrospooty on 4/27/2013 8:39:23 AM , Rating: 4
" one person has gone through four SG3s; three with smashed screens and one lost"

Ummm... Ya, that isnt a user issue, must be a bad phone LOL. The GS3 isnt the most sturdy phone ever built, but its doesnt break when dropped. Not to a problematic point. WTF do these 12 people do for work? Are they some sort of field service that uses the phone outdoors and in rugged environments? If so, they should be getting rugged phones. If someone broke 3 phones in less than 1 year you really need to give that person a feature phone because hey arent responsible enough to own a smartphone.


RE: Profiting off of fragile phones
By messele on 4/27/13, Rating: 0
By retrospooty on 4/28/2013 9:36:29 AM , Rating: 2
??? I guess you troll'd me.

Sorry, starve bitch.


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