Maserati CEO Calls Shenanigans on Electric Vehicle "Nonsense"
April 25, 2013 5:15 PM
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Auto exec admits his company may have to develop a hybrid powertrain in the U.S.
-- CEO of Fiat S.p.A.'s (
) high-end subsidiaries Alfa Romeo and Maserati -- admits his performance luxury car firm may be forced to make a hybrid powertrain to satisfy U.S.
regulations. But while his peers
like Ferrari S.p.A.
Holdings SE (
Bayerische Motoren Werke
(BMW) AG (
are at least feigning genuine enthusiasm about their upcoming hybrid or electric vehicle (EV) sports cars, Mr. Wester didn't candy-coat his opinions: he thinks that EVs are "nonsense".
Shanghai Auto Show
in a keynote:
It looks like something we will have to, but the only reason to do it is to meet regulations. We don't see it as a significant business.
All this discussion about zero emissions is nonsense. Nobody talks about the efficiency of how the battery is charged. It varies strongly from region to region, depending on how the energy is produced, nuclear, coal and so on, but even the best is not ahead of the internal combustion engine.
Diesel and CNG are the more obvious answers if CO2 is the focus. Both are more viable answers than hybrid. If they gave us a CO2 target instead of imposing technology then we would go that way.
If we want a realistic solution to emissions then the regulators need to be more honest in how they calculate emissions. Electric cars are not the answer.
The 2014 Maserati Ghibli -- not an EV
By his estimates electric vehicles have a plant-to-road lifecycle output of 86g of CO2/km in Europe, 110g/km in the USA, and
191g/km in China
. In other words, he's arguing that EVs are far from zero emissions -- and he's right.
To be fair, the
U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA), the agency tasked with CAFE regulation, does somewhat take this into effect
via its mpg-e
(electric vehicle mpg) numbers. That said, the numbers do seem a bit skewed -- EVs are
scoring 100 MPGe or more
. To put that in context the 1.4L engine Chevy CRUZE from General Motors Comp. (GM) puts off
about 161 g/km, meaning that it may produce less emissions in regions like China where much of the power comes from "dirty" sources.
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RE: Truer Words
4/26/2013 1:53:19 PM
I call BS.
First of all SSD are 2.5" drives. You cannot compare it to a 3.5" drive.
Here's some SSD power consumptions
Here's a comparison between SSD and HDD drives power consumption.
Notice there's very little difference between 2.5" HDD and 2.5" SSD? All the big 3.5" HDD take up more power because they're bigger.
Even the 1TB velociraptor only takes 6 watts at load. That thing is spinning at 10k rpm.
Note that the Seagate Momentus XT 750GB is using only 3.1 watts at load. That thing has an SSD AND HDD. If it was only the HDD then it would be 2.x watts. So yeah, you are wrong.
The only thing you got right was that SSD has a lower idle than HDD.
RE: Truer Words
4/26/2013 2:55:19 PM
I think you shut everyone up, Nice!
RE: Truer Words
4/27/2013 9:48:27 AM
Shhhhhh! This is a non confrontational e-comment discussion and facts have no place here. Let the lashings commence.
RE: Truer Words
4/27/2013 11:07:05 AM
This is hilarious.
The point was do we want the Government deciding what we can buy, use, or what the market can produce.
The point was NOT a technical discussion about storage devices. Analogies are rarely perfect, they are an illustrative literary construct that uses metaphor, to help explain something.
The idea that people are crawling over themselves in an attempt to "pwn" me on trivial facts, that have no bearing on the discussion, is a sad display to be sure. They don't want to discuss anything that doesn't fit their world view, so it's easier to just attack the source, me.
p.s. his "facts" are highly skewed and his approach flawed. Because SSD's perform their tasks much faster than those crappy low-powered 5400RPM 2.5" drives. So in the end SSD's still consume less overall power, which anyone with half a brain already knew!
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