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New study shows that Apple's 13" MacBook Pro running Boot Camp is the most reliable Windows notebook

Apple vs. Microsoft, OS X vs. Windows -- these are comparisons that pit fanboys from each side against each other with little middle ground. The two sides have bickered for years with Windows fans bragging about lower prices and larger market share, while OS X backers cite high quality, reliable machines and the lack of significant malware penetration.
 
Today, however, an Israeli PC management firm has added a slight twist in the age-old Mac vs. PC debate. Between January 1st, 2013 and April 1st, 2013, Soluto monitored 150,000 notebook computers running Windows and analyzed the data from:
 
224,144 crashes
250,791 hangs
84,251 BSoDs
1,346,000 boot cycles
62,476 hours spent on boot
 
After analyzing the above data and giving each machine a "Soluto Score", the results of the study were quite surprising. The results showed that the most reliable "PC" was the 13" MacBook Pro (mid-2012 model) running Boot Camp.
 
Soluto attributes this victory to the fact that a MacBook Pro running a copy of Windows via Boot Camp is free of the typical bloatware that comes with a brand new Windows machine. To this point, Soluto opines, "PC makers should look at this data and aspire to ship PCs that perform just as well as a cleanly installed MacBook Pro."

 
To those that say that a clean install of Windows on a MacBook Pro isn't a fair comparison, Soluto offers this consolation, "One could argue that we should not compare a cleanly installed MacBook Pro with an OEM-imaged PC from Acer or Dell… But – for this first report we simply compared the real PCs in the field, some with original images and some reinstalled by their users. We believe it’s more representative of reality."
 
Rounding out the top five entries were the Acer Aspire E1-571, Dell XPS 13, Dell Vostro 3560, and the Acer Aspire V3-771. The 15” Retina MacBook Pro, three more Dells, and a single Lenovo entry fleshed out the top 10. Notebooks from ASUS, Samsung, Toshiba, and Samsung were nowhere to be found on the list.
 
ZDNET's Ed Bott reckons that the reason for the strong showings by Acer and Dell in the study is the companies’ relatively bloat-free installs, with very few third-party utilities to muck with users' computers. On the other hand, Samsung, which didn't make the list, is notorious for filling machines with needless third-party software junk.

Sources: Soluto, ZDNet



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RE: uh, what?
By Argon18 on 4/24/2013 3:28:37 PM , Rating: -1
Who fed you that misinformation? Valve steam is on Linux and OSX now. And with the WINE emulator, you can run a whole lot of Windows software on Linux and OSX. Not that you'd want to mind you, because Linux has way more stuff than Windows. For someone like me who doesn't play games, Linux has superior software, superior compatibility, superior stability, and more advanced features than anything from Redmond.

And the Viruses thing has nothing to do with market share. Do a little homework and get educated on this subject. ALL unix and linux type operating systems are immune to viruses. I haven't used Windows since I dumped that crap in 1996, and on my dozen or so computers, I've never once installed anti-virus software, never once had a virus, never once had a crash. I kicked that Microsoft trash to the curb, where it belongs, and have been reaping the benefits ever since. My condolences that you're locked into that awful ecosystem.


RE: uh, what?
By Bubbacub on 4/24/2013 3:55:04 PM , Rating: 2
wine is not an emulator


RE: uh, what?
By JPForums on 4/25/2013 9:28:05 AM , Rating: 2
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Wine Is Not an Emulator
Fixed that for you.


RE: uh, what?
By amanojaku on 4/24/2013 4:03:29 PM , Rating: 4
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Valve steam is on Linux and OSX now.
Yeah, and it only has 2,000 games, less than half of which are playable on OS X (399) and Linux (105). Even if all 1,961 could run on OS X and Linux, that doesn't even come close to Windows' library of 20+ years, and I'm willing to bet less than half the games on Steam are hits.
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And with the WINE emulator, you can run a whole lot of Windows software on Linux and OSX.
WINE is much better than Steam at this point, with 10,000-20,000 apps supported, but application compatibility is still a concern. So far, only 3,500 applications are considered to be fully compatible with WINE.
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Not that you'd want to mind you, because Linux has way more stuff than Windows.
Pirks mentioned games, but the Windows library is still better than Linux. Linux and UNIX software tends to change ownership, or just stop being developed altogether. I used UNIX before Windows, but UNIX and Linux software just don't get the support they need. Great for running servers, and that's it.
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ALL unix and linux type operating systems are immune to viruses.
http://www.kernelthread.com/publications/security/...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Virus
http://news.techworld.com/security/5392/worlds-fir...
http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2029303/v...
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/technology/2012/04/mac...
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I haven't used Windows since I dumped that crap in 1996
This explains why you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.


RE: uh, what?
By kingmotley on 4/24/2013 4:06:36 PM , Rating: 3
Wow, you should take off them linux colored sunglasses.

quote:
Linux has way more stuff than Windows.

Buddy, you made me laugh. Linux has perhaps 2% the software windows has, if that, and I'm being very generous.

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ALL unix and linux type operating systems are immune to viruses.

You sir, are hilarious. Perhaps you need to go read some. Go look up what systems were affected by the very first worm. Oh, it wasn't Windows. Then go and check what mobile has the most malware problems, and then go find out what OS it is running. Perhaps a quick peruse of some security sites that actually list exploits would shed some light on the awesomeness that is your world. What OS has the most reported exploitable bugs every year for the past 8 years? Must be misinformation because unix and linux were already immune. Please.


RE: uh, what?
By half_duplex on 4/28/2013 10:44:33 AM , Rating: 2
Linux is a great community, and a novel idea... but they just haven't been able to come very vary in the last 10 years.

Even Ubuntu has a heaping scoop of bugs, and it's lightyears beyond what any other *nix has achieved as far as quality.

Here is what Linux needs to do:
1) Consolidate the 100+ distros into 1.
2) Don't let every noob who's made a hello world commit code to it.
3) Stop focusing on how cool you can make your desktop screen shot look.
4) Take care of the basics. I'm a software developer and even I had issues getting flash to work in Chrom and Firefox.
5) Find a leader, thus far seems the community is running around like a chicken with their head chopped off.

I've tried the whole linux thing 3 times, each time there was a new desktop from KDE to Gnome to now Unity.

It's not surprising Mac is the best platform for Windows, Mac is the best platform for any operating system. It's a machine designed and build by craftsman... not the greased up children's toys you find in the isle of Best Buy and Wal-Mart.

My MBP is 5 years old and going strong. Still proud to whip it out where ever I am.


RE: uh, what?
By Pirks on 4/24/2013 4:09:36 PM , Rating: 4
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And with the WINE emulator
That's moronic to run Windows software through some stupid emulator when you can run it natively on Windows with much less hassle
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Linux has way more stuff than Windows
All the crap that Linux has, all this gawk/emacs/perl/git sh1t - all that Windows has in cygwin, if I ever need any of that freeware crap and I could not afford normal professional IDE like Visual Studio - I could run it in cygwin so no point in using any Linux or OS X for that
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Linux has superior software, superior compatibility, superior stability, and more advanced features than anything from Redmond
That's all BS and crappy Richard "The Foot Eater" Stallman propaganda that only lame fanatics like you listen to. There's nothing superior in perl, it sucks balls compared to ASP.NET, emacs sucks balls compared to VS 2012 and overall Linux kernel sucks balls too, since there's nothing special in it that modern Windows kernel doesn't have. It's just a crappy freeware kernel for hobbyists and poor folk from the third world countries who can't afford better OS from Redmond.
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I haven't used Windows since I dumped that crap in 1996
Man, it's not 1996 anymore, stop pretending that Windows 8 has anything common with Win95 that you dumped ages ago. You look extremely stupid when you do that :))) Modern Windows (which means Windows 8) has multiple protection layers against malware, starting from the Microsoft's own curated app store. It's next to impossible to get infected on Windows 8 unless you run it as admin and manually launch the virus executable yourself, but Linux rootkits do exact same thing in this case, so don't pretend Linux is somehow better protected. Running malware/rootkit as admin in Windows or in Linux will give you the same result - infected system. Stop pretending Linux is magical even if The Foot Eater told you so :)))


RE: uh, what?
By Reclaimer77 on 4/24/2013 7:03:07 PM , Rating: 2
Well this is the first time I'm pretty much agreeing with everything you've said, Pirks lol :)

Also agree that someone who's stopped using Windows back in 1996, has nothing relevant to say when talking about now in the present.


RE: uh, what?
By Pirks on 4/24/2013 8:06:32 PM , Rating: 3
Haha, when you try to use a high end WP8 handset like ATIV S for a while you may even stop being Android fanboy :P Talking to me is contagious, beware!

It's too early to wean you off Android 'cause I haven't thoroughly evaluated ATIV S myself (still waiting for a parcel from Switzerland) but it looks more likely this year than in 2012


RE: uh, what?
By Reclaimer77 on 4/24/2013 9:50:09 PM , Rating: 2
That's okay. Like everything else, in two months you'll claim the ATIV S is a piece of crap too :)


RE: uh, what?
By Pirks on 4/25/2013 1:53:11 AM , Rating: 2
But if I don't I'll keep pwning you and other Android trolls ;) We'll see, we'll see, ATIV S may not survive in my house but maybe it will... then beware!


RE: uh, what?
By nikon133 on 4/25/2013 5:39:30 PM , Rating: 2
Yes. One really has to be ignorant in order to advertise his ignorance as an argument.

Re Pirks, I'm still having a problem to accept that he turned from one of most vocal all-Windows critics to one of most vocal all-Windows defenders.

There's a good movie material somewhere in there.


RE: uh, what?
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/25/2013 7:16:26 PM , Rating: 2
He has done it with Android, Apple and BB. It's nothing new.


RE: uh, what?
By Totally on 4/29/2013 6:21:01 AM , Rating: 2
Yep, I wonder what he's going to turn to next now that's he's run out of road figuratively speaking. My prediction, Google makes a big push with Chrome OS, and it gains traction galvanizing the Linux community. Giving them something to rally behind.


RE: uh, what?
By hartleyb on 4/25/2013 10:04:55 AM , Rating: 2
It's hilarious to me to listen a bunch of fan boys from both sides of the issue fight over which OS is best, when in todays world it's easy to run almost any OS, or multiple OS's on one device. Why limit yourself to one piece of software. There are huge advantages and disadvantages to any OS depending on how it is used, and the platform it is loaded on. For example I have an old computer that will run Windows8, through it will be slower then molasses, but if I load Ubuntu on it does all the basic functions just as fast as new machine running Windows 8. Does Linux have everything I need? No, but neither does Windows. I use my Apple for Video and Graphics editing because there is nothing close in comparison and performance in the Windows environment, but I use Windows for just about everything else. I use Linux and Apache for my website, because you can’t beat it for cost and performance. There will never be a one OS or platform solution for the computer / communications world, and if you believe there is, you are not only fooling yourself, but you are wasting a lot of money on a one size fits all solution that most likely doesn’t really work as promised.


RE: uh, what?
By Pirks on 4/25/2013 2:09:20 PM , Rating: 3
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if I load Ubuntu on it does all the basic functions just as fast as new machine running Windows 8
And if you load PC-DOS 1.0 on it, it will be like 1000% faster than Ubuntu, so why don't you use PC-DOS instead huh?


RE: uh, what?
By inighthawki on 4/24/2013 4:14:57 PM , Rating: 2
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Linux has superior software, superior compatibility, superior stability, and more advanced features than anything from Redmond


That's just a straight lie.

The software on Linux is typically less-featured versions of things that exist on windows.

Compatibility of what? You mean the lack of driver support for tons of stuff, applications that each require different versions of the same library to run?

Stability Linux may have, but in all honesty I've never had an issue with my Windows machine. It crashes and produces errors very rarely (As in, almost never). I've seen Linux software crash left and right, so there's obviously going to be a lot of dependence on hardware configurations and the software you're using.

More advanced features, really? Like what, the default file system maybe? Anything else, because I can't think of any particular area where Linux excels over Windows. Linux's graphics kernel is a joke compared to the one on Windows, for example.

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ALL unix and linux type operating systems are immune to viruses

I think you now just lost ALL credibility you may have had. You seriously think it has nothing to do with marketshare? You are so ignorant. Who would seriously waste time trying to exploit such a small user base? Notice that how OSX used to be in the same boat until not long ago. It used to be thought as secure, but yet suddenly now that the market share is higher, viruses appear.


RE: uh, what?
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/24/2013 4:49:23 PM , Rating: 2
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I think you now just lost ALL credibility you may have had.
What credibility did he ever have? Have you seen his fanatical Apple rants?


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