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ACLU blames carriers is demanding a full investigation of the issue

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) took the unusual step of injecting itself into the smartphone discussion, asking the U.S. Federal Trade Commission (FTC) to investigate America's top carriers over claims of Android abuse.

According to the ACLU, Google Inc. (GOOG) regularly puts out patches and upgrades to its Android operating system -- the world's most used smartphone operating system.    But in its 17-page report, it accuses America's top wireless carriers of recklessly endangering consumers by not rolling out updates fast enough.

The report calls out both of America's top two carriers, AT&T, Inc. (T) and Verizon Wireless -- jointly owned by Verizon Communications Inc. (VZ) and Vodafone Group Plc. (LON:VOD).  But it also accuses Sprint Nextel Corp. (S) and Deutsche Telekom AG's (ETR:DTE) T-Mobile USA of contributing to the problem, as well.

The ACLU wants the FTC to force carriers either to offer customers refunds or to force them to provide warnings that they are inadequately protecting customers.  The advocacy admits that it is unusual for it to look to protect consumers (which is typically the job of other more specialized advocacies), but it said in this case that the security risks from the carrier negligence could be used to justify Orwellian new federal laws -- like the controversial CISPA bill that recently passed the House.

ACLU lawyer Chris Soghoian, who authored and submitted the complaint last Tuesday, comments, "This is part of our attempt to reframe the cybersecurity agenda,.  Before violating anyone's privacy, the government should first be addressing the low-hanging fruit that everyone can agree on."

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The ACLU is targeting America's top carriers for sluggish Android updates.
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While the report may echo the frustrations of many Android users, it was met with scorn and derision by figures in the telecom industry.  Verizon responded that it releases patches and updates "as quickly as possible", but that it must commit "rigorous testing" before any release.  Carriers argue that the nature of Android -- which allows both OEMs and carriers to modify or disable certain functionality (e.g. tethering) -- makes testing a slower and more arduous process.  

They argue that rushed updates could "break" smartphones causing them to gobble data unnecessarily, be unable to run apps, or be unable to make calls.  Indeed this has happened on occasion in the past.

But not everyone is buying that excuse.  Carnegie Mellon Univ. Computer Science Professor Travis Breaux comments, "There are standard practices for testing and evaluating patches.  Microsoft does this all the time."

Sources: ACLU [complaint], AP



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RE: annoyance
By retrospooty on 4/22/2013 6:34:11 PM , Rating: 2
You know what TYP? Enough already...

Your bending of the truth has been documented. http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=30328...

Your technical skills have been shown to be inadequate. Your ability to do a quick search and back up data when you accuse someone of lying shows your innatention to detail and speaks to your lack of scrouples. Your objectivity has been shown to be non-existant and your true motives have been outed.

http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=30371...

Move along now son, the adults are talking.


RE: annoyance
By retrospooty on 4/22/2013 6:43:37 PM , Rating: 2
Ack... mixed the links. Your lying as is the 2nd link and your other BS was the first.


RE: annoyance
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 7:34:04 PM , Rating: 1
I can almost see your red face and sputtering mouth when you typed those out. Just how flustered were you when you made those angry posts? Chill dude.


RE: annoyance
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 7:20:24 PM , Rating: 2
Someone who has no conception of things like video scalers, the drawbacks of AMOLED pentile matrixes, and the negative impact of fragmentation talking about lack of technical knowledge, a hoot.

As for Mint's post, and I hope he sees this, I didn't catch it but I REALLY wish I did and had responded.

I didn't short AAPL stock but I did short call option spreads that profited when the stock declined, or more importantly the calls didn't expire with any value. Positions like that can profit even if the stock doesn't go down at all, only goes sideways, or even goes up (which it did during my first AAPL position).

Here were my first trades against AAPL. Both were made about 5 weeks before their respective expirations:

Sold August 665/670 call spread for .70, a 16% return in 4 weeks since it expired worthless with the stock at around $650.

Sold September 720/725 call spread for $1, a 20% return in four weeks.

Note that both of those trades against AAPL profited despite the stock going up. This is why I said I had no idea when to short the stock, but I was still able to profit on it stagnating or make an easier profit if it did turn around.

I made two other trades against AAPL on the way down, one in November and another in February, avoiding it in October and January because I generally don't like to trade around earnings. Both were selling call spreads and not shorts on the stock.

Mint's negative post is based on his lack of technical knowledge, much like many of the posts around here.

And since he brought up AMZN, I traded against it twice, once in September (sold 275/280 spread) and again in January (sold 300/305 spread), both 15% returns.

Disagree with my preferences all you want but don't call me a liar, ok?


RE: annoyance
By retrospooty on 4/22/2013 7:36:45 PM , Rating: 2
"Someone who has no conception of things like video scalers, the drawbacks of AMOLED pentile matrixes"

I never said the pentile amoled was a superior screen. I can see pixels on it and I can see that it isnt as sharp as an iPhone5 and I can see that the iPhone5 isnt as sharp as a 5 inch 1080p phone. All I ever said was some people prefer amoled's brightness and black levels over std LCD's better color representation. I also said to ME the GS3's screen is a better screen than iPhone5 all totaled, and most of that was size and res. You of course took off on your usual soapbox as if I was proclaiming to the world that a pentile amoled is better... But that is the part that happens in your head as I never said anything like that. That part doesnt actually speak to your technical skills it speak to your reading comprehension and probably mostly to your need to be up on your soapbox.

"Disagree with my preferences all you want but don't call me a liar, ok?"

Oh, so its OK for you to call me liar, but not in reverse? LOL. Nice. Like I said... Your objectivity has been shown to be non-existent and your true motives have been outed.


RE: annoyance
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 7:45:25 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Oh, so its OK for you to call me liar, but not in reverse?


You know what, fair enough. I have yet to see anyone talk about how they can see the pixels in an iPhone, but you with your super eyesight can. Fine.

However, talking about how I was lying about betting against AAPL when I did five times in the last nine months is complete nonsense.

quote:
your true motives have been outed.


Yes, niche opinions like "Samsung's screens aren't as good as Apple's or HTCs", or "Android updates are held up by carriers and manufacturers", or "fragmentation affects third party support", such nasty motives!

I'm sorry reality has a bias that doesn't appeal to you. To me its all just pros and cons, whatever.


RE: annoyance
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 7:40:45 PM , Rating: 2
I checked my statement again, I actually opened up an additional short position on AAPL for August. I sold an AAPL Aug 660/665 call spread for .70 the day after I opened the 665/670, another 16% return.


RE: annoyance
By BRB29 on 4/22/2013 8:42:51 PM , Rating: 2
WTF?? ok we get it, you made money buying apple stock. No wonder why you defend apple to the bone.


RE: annoyance
By TakinYourPoints on 4/23/2013 2:30:46 AM , Rating: 2
No, I made money selling call options that profited when Apple didn't go up farther and when it turned down.

The point is the opposite of what you're trying to say. I bet on a slowdown or reversal, thus actually profiting on the reversal that the haters here are enjoying so much. I brought this up when people (like you) were saying that I was tied into the stock, which is silly given that I sought to make money on it not running to $1000.

It was funny then and its funny now.

I've done this with a few other techs too btw, most recently AMZN and the QQQ (selling calls, buying out of the money put spreads).


RE: annoyance
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 7:30:56 PM , Rating: 2
Also, your cultofmac (lol) link calls for a retina display smartphone resolution of about 900 PPI.

Leave it to you to quote cultofmac when it suits your argument, but there is such a thing as diminishing returns.

I can see pixels on an iPad 3/4, I can see pixels on a retina Macbook Pro, but I cannot see them on an iPhone. Curves are perfectly smooth. If you think that more are needed because you're putting your phone up to your eyeball all the time, be my guest. Its all spec sheet wankery past a certain point.


RE: annoyance
By retrospooty on 4/22/2013 7:45:25 PM , Rating: 2
"Also, your cultofmac (lol) link calls for a retina display smartphone resolution of about 900 PPI."

I read it somehere around 450-500ppi as I recall , but whatever. The point I was making is that 300-330ppi@ 12 inches isnt the end all be all of resolution... But by all means, if you cant see a difference between an iPhone5 at 326 and a decent 5 inch 1080p like the DNA at 443 then by all means, save your $$$. I can see it, dont call me a liar over it, I can see it. I see iPhone 5's almost every day. The quality difference at that level is not at all a deal breaker to me, both are fine but I can tell the difference. You called me a liar and I posted links that showed others can see the difference as well. That is all. Bite me.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/10/iphone-4s-retin...

http://wordmunger.com/?p=1348

http://forums.macrumors.com/archive/index.php/t-10...

http://forums.crackberry.com/apple-iphone-ipad-f99...


RE: annoyance
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 7:48:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
I can see it, dont call me a liar over it, I can see it.


I take back that wording then. 300+ PPI is well past the point of diminishing returns, both in terms of clarity and the hardware needed to drive it, but if you can really see aliasing in curves at that resolution then fantastic, you can see it.

Kisses. <3


RE: annoyance
By retrospooty on 4/22/2013 7:52:48 PM , Rating: 2
"I take back that wording then. 300+ PPI is well past the point of diminishing returns"

Thank you and I agree. Just saying I can see a difference. Not enough to bend my choice, for me I want more real estate and as far as visual quality, anything above 300 is good enough for me. I just want more space, and on a 5+ inch phone 720p is getting below 300.

"Kisses. <3"

Cool... So long as you realize I am bending over forwards :P


RE: annoyance
By TakinYourPoints on 4/22/2013 8:03:45 PM , Rating: 2
Hah, still so mad. ;)

I'll be honest though, that Mint link is the first thing that's gotten me really fired up around here. I wish I could have responded!

There is a HUGE difference between trying to short against a top in a stock price (damn near impossible) and selling call options against a stock that you're betting will expire worthless, plus I sold two more positions once the downturn was in full swing.

Both benefit from downturns, but selling an option has the added leeway of profiting even if a stock goes up a little or goes sideways. This month for instance, you can sell a May call 435/440 spread for 80 cents, about 18% profit. Only problem is that unlike August, AAPL is closer to a near term bottom than a top, plus its earnings this month anyway and I like to stay away from that. A quick move on earnings can force you out of that position at a loss very quickly. Selling a put spread below the current price might actually make sense at this point.


RE: annoyance
By Reclaimer77 on 4/22/2013 8:06:44 PM , Rating: 2
Hey J.P Morgan, should I roll my 401-K into a Roth IRA or...?

lmao j/k. You two continue this same tired crap.

*popcorn*


RE: annoyance
By StormyKnight on 4/22/2013 10:59:41 PM , Rating: 3
Girls, girls. You're both pretty! Can we move on???


RE: annoyance
By retrospooty on 4/23/2013 3:06:56 PM , Rating: 2
She started it :P


RE: annoyance
By retrospooty on 4/23/2013 8:44:19 AM , Rating: 2
"Hah, still so mad. ;)"

Nah, that was a friendly KMA, not an angry one LOL.


RE: annoyance
By TakinYourPoints on 4/23/2013 4:58:21 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, hence the winky face. :)


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