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Iconic Windows UI element makes a comeback -- but perhaps not how some hoped

In many ways, Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) new Start Screen -- originally codenamed Metro -- represents the old-fashioned start menu on steroids.  There's both good and bad to this; on the one hand it allows for rich animations, powerful sorting, and better support for touch.  On the other hand, many app developers make poor use of its extra space and many users feel it's uncomfortable and bloated on a traditional PC.

As it marches towards Windows 8.1, Microsoft is looking to show it's listening to criticism from its fans -- halfway listening at least.  The Verge is reporting that its sources are saying that the beloved Start Button will make a comeback in the upcoming release.

But this isn't your daddy's start button -- it will dump you right back into the Start Screen (Metro UI) similar to the Charm.

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A new Start Button is reportedly being added to Windows 8.1, but it doesn't work like the start button of yore. [Image Source:]

The second report corroborates  ZDNet's chief Windows expert Mary Jo Foley, who last week said her sources were buzzing over a Start Button comeback, contradicting previous rumors that it would stay dead:

For those looking to stay on the desktop and navigate a more traditional start menu, you can always grab a third-party app like Pokki.  As of January Pokki had already recorded 1.5 million downloads and was used on average 10 times a day by customers, despite Microsoft's insistence that its own internal research showed customers were no longer using the Start Button.  (Pokki monetizes itself via a bundled third-party app store).

Microsoft sold 60 million Windows licenses as of January, but a significant portion of those are though not yet to have made their way to end users.  Regardless of the actual number of live Windows 8 users, it's clear a relatively large minority have opted to restore the Start Button via third party workarounds.

Windows 8.1 will also reportedly have the option to boot directly to desktop via a setting.  The new operating system is expected to launch sometime in the next few months.

Source: ZDNet

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RE: Start
By Belard on 4/22/2013 2:54:18 PM , Rating: -1


You are welcomed to your opinion.

But you are full of BS about BS.

Win8 is selling like crap. Why doesn't any of the major tech sites throw up a poll? :)

Proof of Win8 is lame:
1 - $40 for Win8PRO to anyone with XP or newer... hell, even people with Win8betas. Cheapest Windows EVER! PERIOD! Even Win3.x wasn't this cheap.

2 - Market share reports.
3 - OEM sales reports
4 - NO major tech site has done a full review of Win8 (MS can prevent that, read the EULA). Anandtech, Dailytech, Tomshardware, etc... They *DID* articles/reviews on Service Paks, Vista, Windows7... nothing about Windows8. Hmmmm.

5 - the constant chatter on the internet about how much Win8 blows.
6 - Low sales numbers of Windwos PCs, Surface and any Win8/RT tablet on the market as well as phones.

Sure, some people like Windows8. So what? Some people are into turd sex, doesn't mean most of us do as well.

Windows 8 = turd sex

RE: Start
By Pirks on 4/22/2013 5:03:08 PM , Rating: 1
Your fanatical BS about "internet chat" of losers and dorks like yourself has no relation to my post about start screen being worthwhile replacement for the smart menu, I have no idea why you changed topic, and neither have you :P

RE: Start
By Pirks on 4/22/2013 6:20:51 PM , Rating: 2
smart menu == start menu

RE: Start
By Pirks on 4/22/2013 6:34:22 PM , Rating: 2
NO major tech site has done a full review of Win8
How about this:

Or this:

Or this:

Or this:

Or this:

Or this:

Or this:

Belard, after looking at all these reviews, I wanna ask you this: are you a fucking braindead moron? A sad idiot? A cunning liar? All of it maybe? Just who are you and why are you lying about the lack of major Windows 8 reviews? What is your agenda man? I wonder if you are a smart astroturfer who's on Apple or Google paycheck, or are you just a retarded loser from your mama's basement or something?

RE: Start
By Captain Orgazmo on 4/22/2013 9:49:30 PM , Rating: 1
Maybe you should read those reviews, you abusive loser. Windows 8 is lame, I bought it and got rid of it after 3 months. It is useless for traditional mouse and keyboard desktops; NOTHING UI related in it is easier to use or better than Windows 7. At $40 it was useless, at the current price a complete ripoff. The OEM "Starter" edition bundled with new PCs is worse than even Vista Basic.

This is coming from a rare fan of Microsoft.

RE: Start
By Pirks on 4/22/13, Rating: 0
RE: Start
By inighthawki on 4/22/2013 11:04:21 PM , Rating: 2
The OEM "Starter" edition bundled with new PCs is worse than even Vista Basic.

WTF are you talking about? There are twoconsumer versions of the OS. Windows 8 and Windows 8 pro. The non-pro edition lacks some of the power user functionality like encryption, hyper-v and domain support. Otherwise they are the same. If you think that's is even close to as bad as Vista Basic then I have nothing to say, I'm utterly speechless.

RE: Start
By Piiman on 5/18/2013 12:47:11 PM , Rating: 1
I got it for 15.00 and it still wasn't worth it. Went back to Win 7 and haven't looked back. I'm very dissappointed that while they are bring back the start button its looks like its just another way to make you open that Metro Bull shit.

RE: Start
By Belard on 4/22/2013 11:26:31 PM , Rating: 2
Whatever Pirks... you are your usual self. I work for none of the major tech companies.

Your links:
1) Anandtech = Gee, didn't know that Win8 was released in March 2012... it wasn't. That was a PREVIEW, 6 months before release. You can't read?
Here is a vista SP1 review:
A review on vista:
Windows 7 *REVIEW* - which is updated from its RC1:

What YOU linked to Anandtech was a product that sure as hell wasn't the public release version of Win8 and even then, they were not too impressed.

I was wrong on the other sites... somewhat... you got me. = not much of a review, you wrote more words on this DailyTech article.
Cnet = usually sucks microsoft's tit. Its only TWO pages. And as typical as most reviews on Win8, they praise that it boots up much faster than Win7 (its more wake up then boot up) and they ended it with " does the learning curve make it worth strongly considering other operating systems? We think not." = liked it, but not really glowing. "Should You Buy It? Many of you won't have a choice."

Engadget and Verge are not heavy hitting tech sights... just media-tech sights. Verge says "A steep learning curve
A lack of Windows 8 style apps, Awkward to control with traditional keyboards and mice / No true windowing on Windows 8 style apps, full-screen"

Not many people complained about the functionality of Vista (the OCP sucked ass)... its problems were under the hood.

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