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Samsung allegedly hired students to criticize HTC devices

Samsung has found itself in hot water in Taiwan with fair trade officials after allegations surfaced that the company hired students to post false, critical reviews of HTC products online.

Samsung, for its part, has stated that the "unfortunate incident" goes against the "fundamental principles" of the company.

If Samsung is found guilty of false advertising, it and its local advertising agency could face fines of up to 25 million Taiwanese dollars. A Fair Trade Commission spokesperson said that the investigation began after a series of complaints were received against Samsung.
 
More fuel was added to the fire when a Taiwanese website posted documents that allegedly show Samsung had been recruiting students to anonymously offer praise for Samsung devices on the internet and simultaneously criticize HTC offerings.

Samsung's legal troubles with false advertising aren’t the only false advertising allegations the company is fighting. LG sued Samsung in South Korea over claims of false advertising. In that case, Samsung countersued LG for $45 million.

Samsung was also fined in Taiwan earlier this year over misleading advertisements having to do with specifications for the camera on the Galaxy Y Duo.

Source: BBC



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Shaking my head...
By half_duplex on 4/19/2013 10:10:35 AM , Rating: 0
Sad.

I'm almost positive a few of these posters have been at work here, and especially over on Anand.

They've been running this same type of campaign against Apple forever, most likely at 10 times the capacity.

This mantra of steal, copy, lie and cheat will catch up with these businesses at some point.




RE: Shaking my head...
By retrospooty on 4/19/2013 10:15:36 AM , Rating: 2
"This mantra of steal, copy, lie and cheat will catch up with these businesses at some point."

It hasn't caught up with Apple, its made them one of the most profitable companies ever. Samsung isn't far behind them. It's certainly works well for other industries as well. Oil, pharmaceuticals etc. The only new thing here is Samsung just got caught. LOL.


RE: Shaking my head...
By half_duplex on 4/19/2013 1:48:54 PM , Rating: 1
LOL - Your typical response just proves my point.

I highly doubt Apple is engaging in these types of embarrassing internet campaigns.

For any pro-Apple or any form of non-positive Samsung post on this site, the same ~10 people immediately arrive to defend Samsungs honor, down vote all posts but their own, and make it an Apple v Samsung debate even when Apple had nothing to do with the article or the comment.

Look at my original post, had nothing to do with Apple, and I said it would catch up to ANY company who operates like this. And of course... down voted, I'm a stupid head, Apple must die, long live Samsung.

The time you waste on this stuff is downright hilarious.


RE: Shaking my head...
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/19/2013 2:18:30 PM , Rating: 3
And here you are, talking about Apple, in a non-Apple article...

And you are in every Apple article defending.

Ironic...


RE: Shaking my head...
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/19/2013 2:20:59 PM , Rating: 3
quote:
I'm almost positive a few of these posters have been at work here, and especially over on Anand. They've been running this same type of campaign against Apple forever, most likely at 10 times the capacity.


quote:
Look at my original post, had nothing to do with Apple, and I said it would catch up to ANY company who operates like this. And of course... down voted, I'm a stupid head, Apple must die, long live Samsung.
Yep, nothing to do with Apple...


RE: Shaking my head...
By retrospooty on 4/19/2013 2:31:58 PM , Rating: 2
LOL... I know.

User1: Everyone always talks about the mole.
User2: What mole?
User1: Why must you always go on and on about the mole? No-one said mole , why do you have to bring up the mole? Shut up about the mole, its not about the mole, no-one said mole.

??????


RE: Shaking my head...
By half_duplex on 4/19/2013 3:50:52 PM , Rating: 2
"Here you 2 cent iz!" - Samsung


RE: Shaking my head...
By half_duplex on 4/19/2013 4:04:07 PM , Rating: 2
LOL

You don't even read my posts. All you do is pile on any time you see one of your BFFs make a post.

The topic here is Samsung being in hot water over a covert marketing scheme. I simply stated that they've most certainly targeted Apple as well.

You two should just stop... All your 'Samsung is God, down with Apple' stuff does is add insult to injury.


RE: Shaking my head...
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/19/2013 4:20:49 PM , Rating: 1
The topic is Samsung, correct, yet, you had to throw Apple into it. The article didn't mention them, you did. And yes, we do read your posts. One you mention Apple, then in another, you say you don't and I showed you as a liar.

I think it's you who should stop. You make yourself look like an AppleTool.

And yet another retarded "Samsung is god" bullshit, no one but you and the other AppleMorons seem to claim that others say that.


RE: Shaking my head...
By retrospooty on 4/19/2013 2:27:44 PM , Rating: 2
"I highly doubt Apple is engaging in these types of embarrassing internet campaigns."

??? You said "This mantra of steal, copy, lie and cheat will catch up with these businesses at some point." That is what I replied about, and if you think Apple isn't stealing, copying and lying you are smoking crack. Apple steals and copies tech all the time, most everything they have is copied, just like Samsung and almost every other tech company out there. That is how business works and has worked since the dawn of civilization.

"Look at my original post, had nothing to do with Apple"

Except the part where you mentioned Apple... ??? . I am not defending Samsung, they can drop dead for all I care. I was just responding you your comment "This mantra of steal, copy, lie and cheat will catch up with these businesses at some point." It's serving Samsung well, its serving Apple well as well as many other companies like Oil and pharma companies. You are the one up in arms about Apple and you are the one that mentioned them in the first place... WTF?


RE: Shaking my head...
By half_duplex on 4/19/2013 4:10:16 PM , Rating: 2
I mentioned Apple only to point out that HTC isn't the only one Samsung has targeted. I could have said LG and I still think you would have blasted Apple.

Anyway, I do think it will hurt Samsung (and anyone else who tries it) in the long run. Alienating, insulting and enraging users of other devices online may strengthen brand loyality a little amongst their users, but really makes it tough to bring in new users.

Example, this weekend I do from iP4s to HTC One. Why? Samsung is soar to me because every GS3 user I know has to trash Apple, HTC, etc every chance they get.


RE: Shaking my head...
By retrospooty on 4/19/2013 7:24:40 PM , Rating: 2
I dunno... I go by products and features. The rest is just fluff. Regardless of who sues who, who copies who, or who was the first with what... At the end, you are left with a product choice and a price point to make a purchase. I have a GS3 now, but wont be going with a GS4. Samsung is probably not the way I will go based on some quality issues we have seen here at my office. My S3 has been perfect sicne day one, but a few have died... And 2 of 2 Note2's have both needed repaired withing 1 month of purchase. The S3 was a good phone in its day, but to me I see alot better options out there than the S4. I REALLY hope the 5.5 inch Optimus G pro makes it to Verizon. Other ones high on my list are the Xperia Z, HTC One, and possible the Moto X if it comes out as good as the pre-hype makes it sound.


RE: Shaking my head...
By mindless1 on 4/21/2013 5:43:34 PM , Rating: 2
You seriously think that it isn't almost all companies doing this sort of thing? LOL!

It would be a shock if Apple wasn't doing it just as much as everyone else. Generally companies take a "Don't ask don't tell" approach to this sort of thing, and farm it out to marketing agencies, and with Apple, they seem to have a greater need than anyone to push the social angle of their products since they generally cost more for fewer features, so you almost have to trick people to make a sale. Of course that's not proof, but look around the web for a while with a critical eye then draw your own conclusion.

It's so pervasive you can't even read customer reviews at places like Amazon or Newegg without wondering who these clowns think they're fooling, let alone the old school way of trolling or blogging about your repped company and the competition. These days the marketing agents work harder, slithering into a social community and establishing some participation trying to build up credibility before proceeding their guerrilla marketing campaign.

Frankly I don't think it will hurt Samsung much at all, as they are positioned better than Apple to retain marketshare against the upcoming wave of higher value Chinese phones.


RE: Shaking my head...
By menting on 4/19/2013 10:25:46 AM , Rating: 2
I don't think you need to pay anyone to campaign against Apple.
All you need are some level minded people.


RE: Shaking my head...
By Tony Swash on 4/19/13, Rating: -1
RE: Shaking my head...
By phazers on 4/19/2013 11:29:42 AM , Rating: 2
Hmm, just like Apple started declining after Jobs left the first time, seems the same thing is happening again now that Jobs left the 2nd time. Only difference - this time Jobs ain't coming back..


RE: Shaking my head...
By half_duplex on 4/19/2013 1:50:57 PM , Rating: 1
"Here you 10 cent iz!" - Samsung


RE: Shaking my head...
By retrospooty on 4/19/2013 11:41:11 AM , Rating: 2
Apparently there are really a lot of non-level headed people out there.

Very true...

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of everyone is stupider than that guy."
- George Carlin


RE: Shaking my head...
By Tony Swash on 4/19/13, Rating: 0
RE: Shaking my head...
By retrospooty on 4/19/2013 2:38:45 PM , Rating: 2
I would venture that anyone as smart as you Tony realizes that most people are pretty stupid, but whatever. You are just here in a non-Apple article posting your usual pro-apple crap so don't be shocked when people reply with differing opinions.

The other problem with being 100 percent full of s**t all the time is that no-one gives your opinion any weight because they all know its biased.


RE: Shaking my head...
By Tony Swash on 4/20/2013 7:08:43 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
I would venture that anyone as smart as you Tony realizes that most people are pretty stupid, but whatever.


Nope. I have a high opinion of most people, they get on with their lives and make the world go round. I find the condescending, smug conceit of folks on forums like this who casually dismiss hundreds of millions of people as being stupid to be repulsive and juvenile. It's the intellectual equivalent of listening to Beavis and Butt-head discussing technology. Explaining what tens of millions of other people do as being the result of their stupidity is just a way of avoiding having to face up to the real reasons why things happen.

quote:
You are just here in a non-Apple article posting your usual pro-apple crap so don't be shocked when people reply with differing opinions.


I didn't bring Apple into this discussion of Samsung's dirty tricks, others did, I am merely responding.

quote:
The other problem with being 100 percent full of s**t all the time is that no-one gives your opinion any weight because they all know its biased.


You obviously care about my comments because you always respond to them.


RE: Shaking my head...
By retrospooty on 4/21/2013 8:45:42 AM , Rating: 2
"Nope. I have a high opinion of most people, they get on with their lives and make the world go round. I find the condescending, smug conceit of folks on forums like this who casually dismiss hundreds of millions of people as being stupid to be repulsive and juvenile."

Awe come on, it was just a funny quote from George Carlin, a great comedian. I dont actually think most people are stupid, but most certainly are under-informed when it comes to tech. Normal people like that would NEVER visit this website, anyone here at a site like this isnt normal.

"I didn't bring Apple into this discussion of Samsung's dirty tricks, others did, I am merely responding."
Yes, Tony, we ALL know why you are here. There is no point acting like it isn't what it is. Years worth of your posts let us all know exactly why you are here.

"You obviously care about my comments because you always respond to them"

Balance. As long as you post toward your company driven agenda, posting against, and exposing your agenda driven posts will be something you need to deal with.


RE: Shaking my head...
By menting on 4/19/2013 12:46:02 PM , Rating: 2
all those 2 links say there are more vocal supporters of certain brands.

and yes, there are quite a few non-level headed people out there.


RE: Shaking my head...
By superflex on 4/19/2013 11:44:03 AM , Rating: 2
I guess you got down voted for not talking negatively about Apple. Shame.

The Samsung shills were definitely out in force for AT's HTC One review. How dare Brian award a non plastic phone a Gold editors choice award.

Samsung is no better than Apple. Marketing spin and blatant copying of others work.


RE: Shaking my head...
By Mitch101 on 4/19/2013 12:20:10 PM , Rating: 1
Probably down voted because there is some truth to that statement.

You can tell by how quickly some items get downrated when it doesn't favor certain companies and the quick responses to bash and attack them by specific posters.


RE: Shaking my head...
By superflex on 4/19/2013 12:47:17 PM , Rating: 2
I forsee a new feature phone from Samsung in the next nine months with an Ultra pixel like camera, aluminum construction, dual front facing speakers, etc.


RE: Shaking my head...
By menting on 4/19/2013 1:39:43 PM , Rating: 2
well, if it's a good idea, other companies will run with it too. Every company does that. Even Apple, which said 10" is the PERFECT size for a tablet and 3.5" is the PERFECT size for a smartphone. And we know what became of that "PERFECT" size.


RE: Shaking my head...
By half_duplex on 4/19/2013 1:53:03 PM , Rating: 1
"Here you 8 cent iz!" - Samsung


RE: Shaking my head...
By retrospooty on 4/19/2013 2:35:42 PM , Rating: 2
"Samsung is no better than Apple. Marketing spin and blatant copying of others work."

Yup... True of both, true of most companies... The only asinine thing about it is the sudden need to sue over it.


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