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Some civil liberties advocates feel the President shouldn't have the power to order the killings of Americans on U.S. soil.  (Source: Drone Wars UK)
The feds won't be happy about this

Not in our state.

I. Drone Controversy Heats Up

That's the message Florida legislators sent to law enforcement official both at a federal and state level, as well as defense and national intelligence agencies when it came to allegedly abusive overuse of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), commonly dubbed drones.  The officials this week passed a law that would not altogether ban drone use in Florida, but would seriously restrict it.

As drone use has exploded overseas in conflict regions, both for surveillance and combat, the fliers have begun to creep into U.S. airspace as well.  The Obama administration recently suggested that armed drone death strikes could potentially be carried out without warrant against American citizens on U.S. soil, under certain circumstances.

The American Civil Liberties Union and Electronic Frontier Foundation have complained about the federal government's refusal to ban the use of armed drones over U.S. states.  But the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has been unapologetic about deploying the same kinds of drones used in Iraq -- Reaper drones and their ilk -- to patrol U.S. border states.

Some law enforcement officials argue that for small police forces, lighter drones -- which cost around $30,000 USD -- are a highly cost-effective tool for patrolling and can help catch criminals.  They say banning drones will raise costs.

II. Florida Limits the "Police State"

But those pleas fell on deaf ears as Florida legislators passed the "Freedom From Unwanted Surveillance Act" SB 92 117-0. Gov. Rick Scott (R) has already promised to sign the bill, which will make Florida only the third state to restrict drone use.  Idaho and Virginia had passed similar laws.

Under the bill drones could only be used by law enforcement in a handful of scenarios -- for example searching for a kidnapped child, managing hostage situations, searching for a dangerous fugitive, or tracking hurricanes/wildfires to prevent serious property damage.  But any use in a criminal case will now require surveillance to be ordered via a warrant -- ensuring due process.  Illegally gathered evidence, under the law, will not be admissible in court and may lead to penalties for the collecting department.

It also contains an allowance for drone use in the case of a "credible threat" of an (imminent) terrorist attack.

So far, only three law enforcement agencies are licensed to use UAVs in Florida by the U.S. Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and none of them have deployed fliers.

Sources: Florida State Senate, AP

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RE: loving my state
By Misty Dingos on 4/19/2013 12:54:38 PM , Rating: 2
No he speaks like someone who's job it was to run the numbers. Now you sound like 99.9% of Americans that think the store shelves can never empty and that food will magically appear in some form to keep them happy in front of their HDTVs. Our modern society balances on a knives blade of supply.

But to be fair. It drives me a little nuts when those that think a hole in the ground, a couple thousand rounds of ammo and an AR-15 are all they need to survive their fantasy end of the world.

I should have said. The world is not going to end even if it does go to utter crap. People will help other people and form communities. The hole dwelers would be mistrusted at best.

Didn't like plauge way too depressing. And the zombie appocolypse is lame. No thank you.

RE: loving my state
By Skywalker123 on 4/21/2013 5:37:02 PM , Rating: 2
But to be fair. It drives me a little nuts when those that think a hole in the ground, a couple thousand rounds of ammo and an AR-15 are all they need to survive their fantasy end of the world.

Well, you can stop going nuts, i never heard of anyone like that, one of the first things survivalists do is store a couple years supply of canned food in their "hole in the ground" The "hole dwellers" wont need help and would distrust all the people that didnt prepare.

RE: loving my state
By 91TTZ on 4/22/2013 12:58:06 PM , Rating: 2
Stop with the doom and gloom. Plenty of people are capable of living off the grid. I know some city slickers think that if supermarkets closed it would be mass chaos and starvation (and it would be in major cities), the fact is that many people know how to hunt and grow their own food. If society suddenly collapsed I personally wouldn't have a problem eating. I live out in the countryside and grow enough food in my own yard that I could eat all year round. If someone tried to steal my food only then would I have to defend it.

RE: loving my state
By Ammohunt on 4/22/2013 5:05:05 PM , Rating: 2
People will help other people and form communities.

I wouldn't count on it hard to form a community when you have roving gangs if resource hungry heavily armed bandits. For those that scoff you might want to study up on he dark could happen again very easily.

"If a man really wants to make a million dollars, the best way would be to start his own religion." -- Scientology founder L. Ron. Hubbard

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