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Microsoft Windows Phone VP says the iPhone is running out of steam and Android is "a mess"

A Microsoft executive said there won't be a Surface smartphone anytime soon, but had plenty to say about Apple and Android-powered devices.

Terry Myerson, corporate vice president of Microsoft's Windows Phone division, told an audience at AllThingsD's Dive Into Mobile conference that a Microsoft-made smartphone (much like the Surface) could be a possibility at some point, but likely not in the near future. 

"It would have to be something where Nokia or HTC was not providing the consumer experience we think is possible with our platform," says Myerson.

There were rumors of a possible Surface smartphone back in November 2012, shortly after Microsoft released its first homemade Surface tablet with Windows RT. However, it appears that Nokia and HTC are doing a fine job of delivering the Windows operating system without Microsoft having to step into the hardware arena for now. Myerson said he was happy, and that Nokia is "a great partner for Microsoft." 

Myerson declined to comment on whether Microsoft is working on a smart watch right now instead. However, a recent report from The Wall Street Journal said that Microsoft has contacted Asian suppliers about a smart watch and has requested a 1.5-inch display from component makers. 

While Myerson didn't have much to report on Microsoft's device front, he had plenty to say about Apple's iOS and Google's Android-powered devices. He explained that Windows Phone is seeing the most success in areas where it isn't subsidized (while Apple and Samsung have chosen to focus on the subsidized market) and that the app selection for Windows Phone is growing. But Myerson believes Windows Phone's built-in features trumps anything iOS or Android has to offer.

"It's a challenge, but if you look at the top 50 apps globally, we've got around 48 of those," said Myerson. "There's tremendous innovation happening in apps. We love checking them out and promoting them, and it's exciting to watch them. At the same time, our unique experience comes from the built-in features. With iPhone, I sense that it's running out of steam. With iOS, [Apple] just added a fifth row of icons. Android is... kind of a mess. Look at Samsung -- there's clearly mutiny going on. The only OEM making money off of Android is Samsung." 

Just last month, Ex-Microsoft COO Bob Herbold said that Apple's stock is a clear sign that the company lacks a few core characteristics that once made it great -- such as a visionary leader like former Apple CEO Steve Jobs.

Sources: Engadget, The Verge

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huh? "Bashes iOS, Android"
By retrospooty on 4/16/2013 4:19:37 PM , Rating: 2
"Windows Phone is growing. But Myerson believes Windows Phone's built-in features trumps anything iOS or Android has to offer."

Oh, what a viscous and brutal bash. WOW... He is going to have to reconcile with those harsh words on his deathbed. Mary Poppins would be ashamed of you Terry Myerson. :P

RE: huh? "Bashes iOS, Android"
By Wiggy Mcshades on 4/16/2013 4:21:09 PM , Rating: 2
He is not being the person Mr. Rogers knew he could be.

By retrospooty on 4/16/2013 4:26:14 PM , Rating: 1
I dunno... I am pretty sure Mr. Rogers was talking to Apple nad Google here...

RE: huh? "Bashes iOS, Android"
By Motoman on 4/17/2013 11:04:53 AM , Rating: 2
With iPhone, I sense that it's running out of steam. With iOS, [Apple] just added a fifth row of icons. Android is... kind of a mess. Look at Samsung -- there's clearly mutiny going on.

That's a pretty good bash. A polite, politically-correct one. But a bash nonetheless.

By NellyFromMA on 4/18/2013 12:58:09 PM , Rating: 1
Assessment = bash? Those lines sure are blurry now, I guess??

Both of those things are true, btw. Apple really has failed to innovate in awhile and there clearly is an awkward Google-led mutiny against Samsung, strangely.

I just feel like bashing is stretching the truth to suit your purpose or blatantly putting something down. This just sounds like fact-based assessments to me.

Slagging off the competition is poor form
By piroroadkill on 4/16/2013 5:17:39 PM , Rating: 2
What's that smell? Christ, something reeks..

.. desperation.

Regardless of the quality of the product, you shouldn't ever resort to cheap tactics like this, it just makes you incredibly unlikeable.

By BRB29 on 4/17/2013 7:38:08 AM , Rating: 2
they all do it to each other.

If trash talking doesn't even stop amongst politician then there's no chance of it happening with rival corporations.

Can they get me a HTC One with Windows Phone Blue?
By stm1185 on 4/16/2013 9:06:12 PM , Rating: 2
That is MS real problem, their devices aren't the real high end ones. And with the subsidized model, it just makes more sense to spend the extra $100 to get the high end. Get something with the build quality and optics of the HTC One out by the fall and I'd switch from Android.

Have just another giant Nokia plastic slab and midrange HTC offering, and I am not switching.

By Da W on 4/17/2013 2:03:52 PM , Rating: 2

Very clever
By Scrogneugneu on 4/16/2013 9:08:45 PM , Rating: 2
"Yeah, you see, those guys who control over 90% of the market are actually crap. We're so much better."

Completely retarded logic. Also happens to be the same retarded logic Apple used during their dark days.

See the path taken by a certain Mr. Jobs for a reaction that makes more sense (i.e. : if you can't innovate with new technologies, at least innovate with very complete implementation of known technologies pushed by people who KNOW how to market stuff properly).

By MadMan007 on 4/17/2013 12:48:54 AM , Rating: 2
Built-in features? Like the ones Microsoft complained about being built into Android?

The Space Time Continuum
By Reclaimer77 on 4/16/2013 5:42:40 PM , Rating: 1
Cannot handle two Reality Distortion Fields!!! The streams are crossing!!!!!

Please stop Microsoft, you will destroy the Universe if you continue on this destructive path.

Plus, you sound like a douche.

We are idiots, join us
By Belard on 4/17/13, Rating: -1
RE: We are idiots, join us
By DrChemist on 4/17/2013 10:54:56 AM , Rating: 2
Ahhhemm. The S3 in the US uses the same processor and graphics chip as the Lumia 920 except the screen is better and the camera is wayy better. Day it came out I could get it for $99 with free wireless charger while the S3 was still $199.

Surface Pro is leaps and bounds the best ultrabook on the market. It's capable of being a tablet, but it really is an ultrabook.

PS. Every pokes jabs at the competition. Although some are more explosive than others. Take for instance the expensive smear campaign samsung put on HTC by hiring a third party marketing company to do the dirty work and make false claims of problems with the HTC One

RE: We are idiots, join us
By Motoman on 4/17/2013 11:12:07 AM , Rating: 2
Surface Pro is leaps and bounds the best ultrabook on the market. It's capable of being a tablet, but it really is an ultrabook.

I think that everyone needs to firstly understand that tablets *are* computers. It's a laptop without a keyboard. Some devices, like Transformers and Surface, have bespoke docking bits to convert them into a laptop...other devices can easily enough connect to the generic keyboard/folder things that sell for $15 on Amazon - functionally becoming a laptop.

I'd like to say that something like the true convertibles is the wave of the future...the laptop/tablet things that just flip around to be used either as a laptop or a tablet, without actually having to detach the keyboard bit. Because ultimately you're either going to forget the keyboard bit on a train somewhere, or break something on it so it can no longer properly dock, etc.

The thing is though that desktops aren't really ever going to die - you're never going to replace the value and utility of big huge monitors for lots of productivity workers, and the lower cost and easier maintenance of desktops vs. laptops. And I can't really say that traditional laptops are likely to die either...the fact of the matter is that for the *vast* majority of people, that $279 laptop on sale at Micro Center does everything they could ever possibly want, and more. Unless the true convertible bits can compete at that price point...I can't see that market going away. Conversely, on the high end, I don't see 17"+ laptops going the convertible route...would you really want to try to walk around with a 17" tablet in your hands?

No...but, the convertible is a compelling new form factor that slots into a particular price and size category. For people who have a use for a small laptop and/or a tablet, it become a no-brainer.

RE: We are idiots, join us
By Belard on 4/17/2013 3:29:10 PM , Rating: 2
I agree with much of what say... thing about detached keyboards is easy replacement when damaged or liquid spills. yes. the notebook and desktop will never completely die... their usages for home consumers will be tiny. Years ago I wanted a 17 inch notebook, but after I used one for a week or so from a friend I decided to weight and the size was not worth it. So I stuck with only 14 to 15 inch models.

even now, I type this whole posting from my phone. in bed... Even though I have a full blown desktop computer with 16 gigs of ram and 24 inch screen a few feet away.

RE: We are idiots, join us
By DrChemist on 4/17/2013 5:49:11 PM , Rating: 2
I differentiate what I can do on an android tablet vs my surface pro in the fact that I can do more than play $.99 time wasters and troll youtube and the internet.

Only with full OSes can you get the full web experience and work function. Plus I don't need to have my company fashion an app so I can do work on it.

I loved convertibles and had one since 2006 (ASUS R1F) but they just never caught on. They are too heavy, and convertibles always will be heavier. All you need is a great desktop and then a ultrabook for mobile. Most phones and tablets are useless for work.

RE: We are idiots, join us
By Ramstark on 4/17/2013 12:25:49 PM , Rating: 2
Ohh..poor, everything MS does is a fail, even if the market share growth is moving much faster than Android.

Don't worry, you can continue to troll all you want, everyone will send flowers to you later....


RE: We are idiots, join us
By DrChemist on 4/17/2013 5:42:03 PM , Rating: 2
Trolololololololo. . Ya ya ya ya ya ya ya ya

RE: We are idiots, join us
By Belard on 4/18/2013 6:18:10 PM , Rating: 2
Surface = fail
Surface PRO = fail
WindowsPhone 8 = fail... Somewhat.
Windows8 = fail
Office 2013 = fail

MS PR forum workers = fail

Microsoft = FAIL

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