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Windows RT continues to struggle

With millions of consumers snapping up tablets running iOS and Android, Microsoft had high hopes of competing its Windows RT operating system. So far, consumers have yet to fully embrace Windows RT, or Windows 8 for that matter. In fact, many analysts are pointing to Windows 8 as part of the reason for the woes in the computer industry.

A Dell executive recently stated that demand for the company's first Windows RT device, the Dell XPS 10, has been weaker than expected. "Demand is not where I would like it to be at this point in time," Neil Hand, head of Dell's tablet and high-end PC business, told CNET. "The amount of market information about it is not good enough, and the market sentiment is still pretty negative."


Hand also says that the Windows app experience "has not been as strong as it needed to be."

Dell and Hand aren't alone in criticism of Windows RT. Windows RT is the first version of the Windows operating system specifically designed to work with ARM-based processors from NVIDIA, QUALCOMM, and others.
 
NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang has also noted that sales of Windows RT devices have been disappointing. Samsung even ditched plans to launch its own Windows RT device in the U.S.
 
The upside to poor demand for Windows RT tablet for consumers is that weak demand has forced prices down.

Source: CNET



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RE: Bad name
RE: Bad name
By Motoman on 4/17/2013 12:48:58 PM , Rating: 2
LOL, you just need to stop.

1. That's a "promise." How many promises have been made by the likes of Intel that never happened?

2. No mention of the size or form factor of such devices. Maybe he's talking about a 7" tablet for $200. Yay. Doesn't change the base arguments here when the 10" Android tablet is $150.

3. Even if the size were the same - if he's promising a 10" Surface tablet for $200, that's still 33% more expensive than the $150 Android tablet at the same price. Granted, the price premium sucks a lot less at that point - but it still sucks.

You can insist that the spec sheet for the Surface is more impressive than the cheap Android tablet. Probably is. You can insist that it's a "Ferrari" compared to a "Taurus." That might be valid too. But if grandma is the one who needs the car, and all she's going to use it for is to drive to the corner store for groceries, what good did it do her to spend more money on the Ferrari instead of saving a lot of money and getting the Taurus?

Vast majority of the tablet market = grandma.


RE: Bad name
By karimtemple on 4/17/2013 4:04:14 PM , Rating: 2
Your argument is that there isn't a market for convertible (i.e. convergent productivity) tablets.

And that there isn't a market for powerful tablets.

And that the only market is for terrible cheap $150 tablets that only you and your wife like.

Your argument is sorely mistaken.


RE: Bad name
By Motoman on 4/18/2013 11:28:54 AM , Rating: 2
Nope. I've argued elsewhere that there is a market for convertibles - nothing I've said here contradicts that.

There is a market for powerful tablets. A very small one.

The largest market is for inexpensive tablets, because the vast majority of people have no need for great power in a tablet.

My argument is rock-solid. You can either poke your head out of your hole and look at the real world and realize this to be true, or you can continue to pretend you live in a different world. Which is fine by me.


RE: Bad name
By Belard on 4/17/2013 5:37:30 PM , Rating: 2
But the $100~150 tablets tend to be garbage... cheap screen, with high failure rates. Bad touch sensors, weak and small batteries with limited power usage and life-span. 2+ year old SOC/CPU designs and performance.

Apple is not having problems selling $300 8" tablet or the $400~500 10" types.

The MS Surface is a quality product... mostly. Even thou its screen is out-dated. The Surface should be a $300 product.

Microsoft's best chance to save RT would have been to sell the SurfaceRT for $200 (pretty much at costs) to create buzz. of course that pisses of their partners who would have a $280~300 build costs.

On Newegg, they have dozens of 7" tablets for $70~120, most have little or low ratings, low resolutions (800x480). Limited memory with 512mb~4GB. once you hit about $150~200, you get ASUS and Lenovo, etc.


RE: Bad name
By Motoman on 4/18/2013 11:33:35 AM , Rating: 2
Apple wouldn't have a problem selling sh1t in a box for $500 a pop.

I've seen and used a large number of the cheap Android tablets. Have never seen one that didn't work well, and with which the user wasn't happy. They get even more happy when you do the "test drive" thing where you find a guy with an iPad and/or Transformer, Surface, whatever else, and have everybody do the basic things that people actually do on tablets side-by-side.

Then the people with the inexpensive Android things feel even better about their purchases, while the people with the iPads et al just get mad and go away.

Everyone I've seen, with the exception of one, has loved their cheap Android tablet right out of the box. One person said their initial one was wonky, so it got replaced and the replacement is perfectly fine.

I'm under the impression that only nerds are leaving feedback for such things on Newegg etc. Whining about things that normal people don't have any interest in.

When it comes right down to it, the cheap, no-name Android tablets are just as good as anything else for web surfing, email, Facebook and Angry Birds. And that's all the vast majority of people care to do on a tablet.


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