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Windows RT continues to struggle

With millions of consumers snapping up tablets running iOS and Android, Microsoft had high hopes of competing its Windows RT operating system. So far, consumers have yet to fully embrace Windows RT, or Windows 8 for that matter. In fact, many analysts are pointing to Windows 8 as part of the reason for the woes in the computer industry.

A Dell executive recently stated that demand for the company's first Windows RT device, the Dell XPS 10, has been weaker than expected. "Demand is not where I would like it to be at this point in time," Neil Hand, head of Dell's tablet and high-end PC business, told CNET. "The amount of market information about it is not good enough, and the market sentiment is still pretty negative."

Hand also says that the Windows app experience "has not been as strong as it needed to be."

Dell and Hand aren't alone in criticism of Windows RT. Windows RT is the first version of the Windows operating system specifically designed to work with ARM-based processors from NVIDIA, QUALCOMM, and others.
NVIDIA CEO Jen-Hsun Huang has also noted that sales of Windows RT devices have been disappointing. Samsung even ditched plans to launch its own Windows RT device in the U.S.
The upside to poor demand for Windows RT tablet for consumers is that weak demand has forced prices down.

Source: CNET

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RE: Bad name
By karimtemple on 4/16/2013 11:25:29 AM , Rating: 1
There's a difference between being able to do something, and a computer being able to do something well (or 'comfortably'). You are "able to" play video games on a TI-83 graphing calculator. Still, you buy a PlayStation 3 anyway.

A 10'' Android tablet someone would actually want would be more like $400. Coincidentally, that's about the sweet spot Clover Trail devices should be targeting. Long story short, this is not exactly an open-and-shut case.

RE: Bad name
By Mitch101 on 4/16/2013 11:41:00 AM , Rating: 2
I have a HP touchpad running Android and the only reason I can see of upgrading is when H265 becomes the norm. Otherwise Im happy with this.

If I want to play a serious game Ill go to my PC or X-Box.

RE: Bad name
By Motoman on 4/16/2013 11:54:18 AM , Rating: 2

Look at what the average person does on a tablet.

1. Surf the web.
2. Facebook.
3. Check email.
4. Words with Friends.

None of those things are going to tax even the cheapest Android tablet. Hence, if you have an average person do those things on a $150 Android tablet, then on a Surface, then on an iPad...they're not going to be able to tell the difference. The cheap Android tablet does everything just as well (or as comfortably) as the more expensive tablets, from the average person's persepctive.

And're not an "average person" - by the very notion that you have the slightest idea what "Clover Trail" even is. Let alone that it exists.

RE: Bad name
By karimtemple on 4/16/13, Rating: 0
RE: Bad name
By 91TTZ on 4/16/2013 12:39:11 PM , Rating: 2
Maybe $150 was a stretch, but the fact is that Microsoft is selling a tablet for $500 that competes with $300 tablets. As a result not many people are buying Surface.

RE: Bad name
By karimtemple on 4/16/2013 12:49:56 PM , Rating: 2
This I'll agree with. Windows 8 ARM should never have gone to market in the first place. My problem with the "$150 tablets are all you ever need" argument is that the experience on (today's) $150 tablets are garbage even to the 'layperson,' and for less than $500 you can get tablet with 'full' Windows 8 on it. The performance is respectable, and in a few months they'll have faster clocks and faster RAM.

RE: Bad name
By Motoman on 4/16/2013 1:12:32 PM , Rating: 2
You're wrong. About many things.

The 4 things I listed above are all the vast majority of people can even think of to do on a tablet. And we've shown many times that my wife's $150 Android tablet does those things exactly as fast as iPads and more expensive tablets. It makes no difference.

And no - the average person is categorically NOT going to play GTA on their tablet. The % of consumers that would even consider such a thing is so tiny as to not matter.

And also no on needing Office on a tablet. People don't do that...not average people. If they need to do something in Word or Excel they're going to switch to their laptop or desktop. Never mind the fact that ALL Android tablets can convert into a laptop, essentially, with a $15 keyboard/folder accessory from Amazon.

You, sir, are delusional.

RE: Bad name
By karimtemple on 4/16/13, Rating: 0
RE: Bad name
By Motoman on 4/16/2013 5:35:54 PM , Rating: 2
1. The $150 tablet works fine on those websites. You don't get to pretend it doesn't.

2. I don't care what it was - anyone wanting to play GTA isn't an average tablet consumer. You've missed the point.

3. Yes, a tablet is a computer. But firstly, people already have laptops and desktops with Office on them, will full-size keyboards and mice, and they tend to use those for actual productivity. Even with a keyboard, any tablet is pretty subpar for creating anything. Tablets are primarily consumption devices. So whether or not Microsoft Office in and of itself is available on Android is pretty much a non-starter. People don't care. That's not what they're buying a tablet for.

3a. Those $15 keyboard folders are wildly popular, and I've had my hands on a few of them myself. You can try to "fool" anyone you want to with your uninformed stupidity, but considering the things cost $15, the fact of the matter is that the prop the tablet up like a laptop and the keyboard works as advertised. If you don't like the $15 folder keyboard, then don't buy one - or buy something else that you think is reassuringly expensive. Your opinion is of no value.

RE: Bad name
By kmmatney on 4/16/2013 4:02:17 PM , Rating: 2
Just surfing the web can show a difference between tablets. My first tablet was a Nook, and it just was too slow for me to enjoy it, even doing simple things like browsing the web. I had rooted it, installed CynogenMod, and even overclocked it. I was able to sell it for more than I paid for it (the rooting of it added value) and I bought an iPad, and felt the price difference was well worth it.

Nowadays, there are certainly good tablets cheaper than the iPad, but I couldn't recommend anything at the $150 level yet.

RE: Bad name
By Motoman on 4/16/2013 5:38:59 PM , Rating: 2
We've done "taste tests" several times with our $150 Android tablet side-by-side with iPads and more expensive devices, like Transformers.

Web surfing speed is subjectively the same. Maybe you can come up with differentiation on some kind of benchmark, but it won't make any difference in usability. I can't speak about the Nook...I never even laid eyes on one.

It's kind of like trying to convince my mom that she should spend $1500 on a big-ass gaming rig PC like I have. The thing is, is my mom used my PC to check her email do Facebook, and play Angry Birds, the 6-core CPU, 16Gb of RAM, Radeon 7850 GPU and SSD aren't going to make the slightest difference. All the things she does happen just as fast on a 10-year old Windows XP machine from the bottom bin at Walmart.

RE: Bad name
By Pirks on 4/16/13, Rating: -1
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