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Incredibly fast service costs only $51 per month

Sony has announced the world's fastest home internet service. If you're in the United States, don't get excited. This internet service is exclusively available in Japan and offers download speeds of 2 Gbps (uploads are capped at 1 Gbps). The internet service is provided by So-net Entertainment and is called Nuro.

The fiber-optic service was available for qualifying homes as of today including houses, apartments, and small businesses in Tokyo and six surrounding communities.

Incredibly, So-net Entertainment is offering the service for ¥4980, which works out to only $51 per month. There is a rather large installation fee of ¥52,500 ($543), however, those who apply for the service online right now can waive that installation fee.

The web connectivity price includes the rental of an Optical Network Unit (ONU) designed handle the high-speed connectivity and converts signals from the fiber to broadband internet usable in the home. Considering that 2 Gbps is faster than most home routers and adapters support, odds are the hardware within the user's house will be the limiting factor on speeds.

The Japanese government continues to back fiber-optic connections to private residences in Japan. Roughly 25% of all homes in Japan are currently connected to fiber internet services giving Japan the second highest rate of connectivity to fiber in the world. The most connected fiber country in the world is the UAE with over 70%.
For comparisons sake, Google Fiber costs $70/month and offers 1 Gbps speeds (up/down).

Source: PC World

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How much bandwidth do you need?
By Spookster on 4/15/2013 9:07:06 PM , Rating: 0
I can't imagine what you could possibly want with that much bandwidth in your house. I have at least a dozen devices online at any given time at my house and have streamed Netflix to at least 2 devices and play online gaming (BF3) simultaneously and I only have a 20Mbps DSL connection.

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By Totally on 4/15/2013 9:28:47 PM , Rating: 2
So what, you're paying $70 give or take, for that 20Mbps connection. which to them is a few cents. The 2Gbps is most likely their top tier offering and it looks like they could scale it down to something like 400Mps for $10.

By zogmeister on 4/15/2013 9:44:11 PM , Rating: 2
In Tokyo, I share a 200Mbps fiber connection with 90 other households in a high-rise condo for $15/mo, which is better than it sounds--it's cheap, and I rarely find myself fighting over bandwidth. Nevertheless, perhaps we should switch to So-net and share a 2Gbps line instead. :-)

In absence of this kind of arrangement, though, it'd be uneconomical to offer reduced speed for reduced price, as much of that $50/mo is probably being spent on fiber/cable/router depreciation and maintenance (i.e., fixed cost per line) rather than packet forwarding (variable cost).

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By Spookster on 4/15/2013 11:50:39 PM , Rating: 2
Uh no I only pay $45 for my 20Mbps service.

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By Samus on 4/15/2013 11:59:11 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly, and you could be paying just $6/month more and have the ability to not just stream 1080p Bluray (36mbps) and even 4K (68mbps)

The other factor is latency. The fiber network and its equipment presumably offers single-digit pings to all of Japan.

By Milliamp on 4/16/2013 3:57:52 AM , Rating: 2
There is any inherit reason the latency would be lower on a 2G fiber link vs a 100M fiber link assuming neither of them are congested.

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By Shadowself on 4/16/2013 8:56:54 AM , Rating: 2
The Blu-ray standard is 40 Mbps, max, for the video only. There is an additional 8 Mbps, max, for the audio. Thus the maximum total data rate for Blu-ray is 48 Mbps. True, few movies routinely hit these peaks, and extremely few average, over the entire length of the movie, more than 30 Mbps for both video and audio. However, if you're going to try to quote the Blu-ray standard you should know the real data rates. (And just for completeness, the raw, data usage maximum for Blu-ray is 72 Mbps. This is not for use in your Blu-ray video player, but as a data disk.)

Also the evolving standard for a Blu-ray equivalent data rate for UHDTV (2160x3840) ( NOT 4K [2160x4096] which is a Digital Cinema Standard!) will likely include the H.265 standard to get the total video rate down. No one really knows where the standard will end up. However, forcing both video and audio into a 68 Mbps aggregate stream will cause video or audio (or both) to suffer significantly. Still, it is likely to be more on the order of 100 Mbps for both video and audio than the 68 Mbps you mention. UHDTV is four times the video information (even if they don't extend the color range, which is being discussed, which would increase the information rate further) and with the higher efficiency of H.265 it is likely the video rate can be capped at < 92 Mbps, which, when added to the same 8 Mbps audio rate comes to about 100 Mbps.

By Shadowself on 4/16/2013 9:04:00 AM , Rating: 2
I did a bit of checking. Seems my data is based upon the data streams themselves and not the marketed disks. I was involved in it way back when and it appears the commercially sold disks got lobotomized a bit from the original specs of the format.

The Max data rate of the standard "1x" commercially available movie disk is 36 Mbps, aggregate.

I really need to keep up on these standards and realize when they've been needlessly limited!

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By zogmeister on 4/15/2013 9:32:41 PM , Rating: 2
A single Blu-ray video stream has a maximum bandwidth of 36Mbps.

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By SlyNine on 4/16/2013 5:47:52 AM , Rating: 2
I've seen Blu Rays to MKVs stream at around 50mbps in VLC.

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By rippleyaliens on 4/15/2013 9:35:47 PM , Rating: 3
EASY.. 4K TV.. People said this wayyyyyy back in the day of 420 MB Hard drives.. When WD released its awesome 1.6GB Hard drive, it was like a game changer BACK in 1996.. Same with CD Roms, DVD Roms.. MEMMORY.. LOL WAYYY BACK in 1996 I had 16 MB Ram, RIDICULOUS for its day. We all said, "How much ram do you need?" 14.4 Modems, RULLED THE WORLD, then came 28.8, then 33.6, Then the Almighty 56k.. (Naturally all PRE Broadband internet.. People always said, "How Much bandwidth do you need?"..

Welcome to the infamous world of.. PROGRESS!!!!

As it sits now, just to stream 1080P.. 50MB from comcast actually Rocks.. BUT !!! Considering that this is JAPAN we are talking about. JAPAN, does not have the RED Tape that clogs USA, when it comes to rolling out Awesome products. SONY, THIS month, is due to release its LOW end 4K, TV.. 4x the Resolution of 1080P, And Mind you.. When Streaming a blu-ray, over a LAN, IT Saturates a 10/100 Network. As 10/100 only delivers 12.5MB per second. Gigabit does 125MB per second, give / take..
2GB internet, will give us 250MB per second.. Which is cool and all.

AND LAST but not least.. Sony's 4K TV, ---- WELL 8K is RIGHT BEHIND IT.. Remember folks.. When Flat Panel PLASMA's FIRST Hit the scene, they werent even 720P.. NOW you can get 70" 1080P, at Walmart. Meaning, LATEST and GREATEST, need MEGA amount of Bandwidth..

P.S. 50Mbps Comcast in the Ann Arbor MI, area is $53.00 a Month, WITH!!! Digital Cable.. Only way that companies can charge a premium on Data, is only when they can truely OFFER INSANE Internet to the Rich GUYS, AND THERE ARE A LOT OF THEM..

PSS.. You can go to Kansas, and now Austin (I believe), and get 1Gbps Internet from google Fiber, for under $100 a month.. (Not fully sure,, BUT i am tempted to re-locate.), lol

And to cap this off.. In 2006.. A 17Mb internet VIA Fractional t3.. Ran in the Neighborhood of $15,000 a MONTH.. So with progress, it just gets cheaper and faster.. Like a Commodity.. Hence Walmart selling Smartphones for $40.00 a Month. 3 Years ago, it was $150.00 a month, on 3G.. In Europe, they are rolling out 5G..

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By Samus on 4/16/2013 1:04:01 PM , Rating: 2
Unfortunately this type of progress will never happen in the United States. Japan and Europe had the "opportunity" to re-establish the way their utilities work after World War 2, requiring heavy rebuilding and expansion, contracting out to as many private companies to build what was necessary and regulating in a sane manner, and "fortunately" we haven't had a disaster like that, but without a functional political system, that's the only other way we can completely deregulate our wireless spectrum and utilities.

At least we can finally buy natural gas and electricity from competing companies...we haven't been able to do that since the Nixon Administration.

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By Sertis on 4/15/2013 9:37:37 PM , Rating: 2
With that much bandwidth, i'd have different walls running full 1080p telepresence with my friends and family so my wife can have her folks "over for dinner" virtually, while I watch movies with my buddies from college and reenact MST3k. Kids would be doing the same, and the empty wall in the kitchen would have a live feed from a public 4k camera streaming real time from a cafe in Paris. My dog would be visiting his lady friend on a 24" lcd monitor inside his doghouse. The rats, mutated into sentience by the strong magnetic fields would be plotting an overthrow of their human overlords, and I'd need a much faster snort box.

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By Motoman on 4/15/2013 10:34:54 PM , Rating: 1
Seriously? Do you have any idea how much porn you could get at that speed? Why do you even ask questions like that?

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By rippleyaliens on 4/15/2013 10:41:50 PM , Rating: 3
And Dont Forget.. IF THEY BUILD IT, We will come..(Litteraly).

Texas has fastest toll rode in america. They had on ITS First day open, A Moddified Cadillac CTS-V, with 1200 Horse power.. Got up to 220 MPH, Before ran out of road...

Brothers (and sisters), Country-men, fellow NERDS!!!! of the World.. All i have to say is WHEN can i get it.. At that bandwidth, it will take the rest of the world, 4-5 years to catch up . (IE the non tech pukes).. MEANING, This is an opportunity of a DREAM.. Instead of paying $10k a month for a Rack in a data center at 200mb Kinda Max.. You can have 10x that, at home, Obviously 3-4 of these MIN.. for $200 can have 8Gbps Internet!!!!.. Please Hurry..

Non-Serious TECHY's Dont Appreciate what level of progress this will bring to Them..

Retina Display Video Conferencing.

EXTREME Real time Video Streaming, Super HD level.

Downloading Software, Your Game Capability.. The Doors to MEGA HD, that always follows a massive COMMODITY Priced update to Internet speeds..

AND Yeppers, for the Business Minded Nerds. This is that Signal, just like the Initial Broadband cable modems was, This is like that. NEW ROUTERS, for sale.. NEW Technologies that will make even ours Nerdy lives MUCH BETTER, Digitally.. New levels of TRAINING.. New Network Infrastructure, once the Onboard NICS become the slow--- BottleNeck..

PROGRESS.. and as MUCH BANDWIDTH as they can dish out, (Dollar wise).. We always forget, that once a BIGGER Pipe is introduced.. So does every Game SERVER needs new parts to allow that level of play. Means SERVER SALES, Means SOftware Engineers have to expand their limitations. Most game servers are running 1gb.. From Server, to Router.. -- IT is the CUSTOMER, that is the weak link, with JUST now AVALIABLE 100MB to the house. IMAGINE the Game developers that will re-CODE Everything to offer, MORE than just 64 Players on a BF3, Map..


RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By thesavvymage on 4/15/2013 11:05:20 PM , Rating: 3
you REALLY like to EMPHASIZE words dont YOU?????

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By Motoman on 4/15/2013 11:57:02 PM , Rating: 1

By Reclaimer77 on 4/16/2013 8:46:04 AM , Rating: 1
lol he's like Reclaimer on steroids :P

By Spookster on 4/15/2013 11:58:41 PM , Rating: 2
The customer is not the weak link in online gaming. One of the heaviest consumers of data right now is BattleField 3 and it only uses on average 30Mb's of data per hour. Current average ISP offerings are way more than online gaming will use for the forseeable future.

RE: How much bandwidth do you need?
By Oyster on 4/16/13, Rating: 0
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