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It is expected to go into mass production later this year

Joining the likes of Apple and Google, Microsoft is now also rumored to be making a 7-inch version of its first homemade tablet -- the Surface.

According to a recent report from Reuters, Microsoft is in the midst of creating a whole new batch of Surface tablets, which includes a 7-inch version. 

The 7-inch tablet is expected to go into mass production later this year.

Microsoft, which released its first Surface tablet on October 26, 2012, hasn't seen the sales success it expected. Last month, a Bloomberg source anonymously revealed that Microsoft had sold 1.5 million Surface tablets at that point. More specifically, the company had sold a little over a million Surface with Windows RT tablets (features the Windows RT version of Windows 8 specifically for ARM processors) and about 400,000 Surface with Windows Pro tablets (features the full version of Windows 8 and an Intel Core i5 processor). 

These figures missed analyst expectations of about 2 million Surface RT tablets in just the December quarter alone.

Microsoft launched Surface with Windows RT in October and Surface with Windows 8 Pro in February.

Microsoft likely wants to run with the big boys like Apple and Google in the tablet sector, and both have already released 7-inch tablets (which tend to be more affordable for consumers). Google's 7-inch Nexus 7 tablet was a hit at only $200 with a load of impressive features, and Apple released its 7-inch iPad mini for a little over $300 last November. 

However, Microsoft may want to steer clear of releasing any more Surface tablets with Windows RT, since the operating system has largely been a bust. RT-powered tablets have dropped significantly in price in some cases due to lack of consumer demand, and many hardware makers are looking to just clear the dead weight out of their inventory.  

Even analysts believe Windows RT will, at some point, just fade away. 

"I think you're seeing discounting based on user demand. I never thought RT was going to be that successful," said Jack Gold, principal analyst at J. Gold Associates. "RT will fade away over time. It's not a full Windows 8 experience. That said, why wouldn't I spend more and get a full Pro version of the device?" 

Source: Reuters



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Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Da W on 4/11/2013 12:03:33 PM , Rating: 0
I remeber Motorolla XOOM tablet that was a miserable faillure.
It took a whole year and a push in the ass by Amazon for Android tablets to catch on.

Windows RT was a predictable faillure, but in a few years, most of the sofware will be in Metro Apps format and they run on both x86 and ARM. Then may be Windows RT will be relevant.

Only a few months in and there a a load of new apps, some i've never seen on iOS and Android. Good apps too. It will work. Give it time.




RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By othercents on 4/11/2013 12:14:21 PM , Rating: 2
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Windows RT was a predictable faillure, but in a few years, most of the sofware will be in Metro Apps format and they run on both x86 and ARM.

This is only true if developers want to give up control of their software to Microsoft. I don't know of many developers that want Microsoft to dictate release cycles and what updates you can and can't put into their software. Then you have custom applications for business that you wouldn't want in the app store, but with Windows RT that's the only choice.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By GulWestfale on 4/11/2013 12:26:50 PM , Rating: 2
in a few years MS will only have become more irrelevant in the mobile space than it is today. windows CE for pocket PC, windows mobile, windows phone, windows RT... what's next in this line of failures?


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By CSMR on 4/11/2013 8:47:09 PM , Rating: 3
CE/Windows Mobile was not a failure. MS led the market with Windows Mobile. An excellent professional product.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By sprockkets on 4/11/2013 10:03:38 PM , Rating: 2
WM at its peak was around 25% of the US market, and that was even only due to palm raising a white flag when they sold out. Elsewhere, Symbian creamed it, and Palm and BB were..

quote:
An excellent professional product.


Right. Coming from a person who has never dealt with WM issues like activesync not working via their brain dead decision to move it to a network interface in WM5, EAS losing its push ability after a week to flat out never syncing and no easy diagnosis except for looking for 0x codes in a text file.

I could go on and on. How about WM devices failing to ring after awhile?


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Mitch101 on 4/12/2013 9:43:34 AM , Rating: 4
And I can go on about how iPhones have taken down mail servers, lost client e-mail, contacts, meetings, not just through active sync but through third party products as well and how Android devices on a corporate network can pose a security risk because of the side loading and how companies should seriously beef up AV security surrounding android mobile access to their company networks.

Windows Phone is holding its own in the US and when a real device finally hits Verizon Windows Phone will gain market share in the US. Outside the US Windows Mobile is starting to take hold and is taking a chunk out of Android and iPhone in certain markets. Why because its seriously a great OS and it finally has hardware for those who want beefy hardware. You dont really need it I would focus on the Camera because my two year old 800mhz single core windows phone is seriously fast and responsive I just need a camera update.

Keep in mind Windows Phone is still not available in all the locations Android and iPhone are so that market share factors in all the locations where Windows Phone wasn't being sold. So if your able to sell 5 million iPhones in a place where Windows Phone isn't being sold and there were quite a few countries this was happening in guess whos going to win for Total devices sold aka Market share. Oh look Windows Phone isn't winning market share sure when its not sold in all the countries as everyone else what do people expect?

Certainly Microsoft has faulted on the tablet market mostly due to price but for Mobile Windows Phone is excellent excellent excellent. By far the best smart phone device Ive ever used. I used to be able to beat up on Android but its certainly come a long way since 2.3. Hardware wise Windows Phone and Android are murdering the iPhone. Still never heard of a replaceable battery or memory slot Apple?

My buddies iPhone is a horrible wreck at directions. Hell just try any 10 year old Garmin against an iPhone and watch how the Apple takes you routes that don't make sense. Sure the Garmin might loop you but its far better than what Ive seen so far from Apple.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Tony Swash on 4/12/13, Rating: 0
By Mitch101 on 4/12/2013 10:22:22 AM , Rating: 4
3% to 3.2% in the US - you should worry because its still not sold on every carrier and every country and it gained market share. You should look internationally where there is double digit market share of Windows Phone now and its only going to get bigger.

Wait till Verizon gets the 928 and T-Mobile gets the 521 then watch what happens to Market Share.
http://www.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-928-verizon-f...
Then there is the Nokia RM-877 coming to AT&T

John Dvorak? Really that guy hasn't been relevant in 10 years and this past week I got to see first hand how the Apple device kept taking us off on parallel roads instead of sticking to the major highways. What a POS. My 2 year old Windows Phone was absolutely destroying the credibility of the iPhone maps.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Belard on 4/12/2013 10:51:41 AM , Rating: 2
Windows phones are kicking ass? Hmmm... That must be why they are selling them for $1 for most of them. HTC X going for $1-50 and the flagship 920 barely holding on to $100. When until a few weeks ago, the year old galaxy 3 was still a $200 phone.

Metro is a good phone GUI, I used to run it on my android 2.3 phone as a launcher. But with android 4.x, the limitations of metro is evident and I never felt the near to install the wp7/8 launcher on my new phone.

The whole win8/metro revamp from last year is supposed to feed itself, it makes sense. But in reality, Microsoft totally screwed up and it's killing itself. Win8 failure hurts winRT/phone8 sales... Because people are not buying a wp8 device and thinking ..." maybe I should a windows8 computer"

Had I been sold on windows8, I would have gotten a wp8 device... But I lost faith in Microsoft. So I stayed with android instead.

Metro is a good design, IMHO. I liked how it tells you info. But then again, my android 4.x phone also tells me info.

I liked the wp8 phones from HTC and Nokia. But even my friends who liked their wp7 phones have gone to android.


By Mitch101 on 4/12/2013 11:22:21 AM , Rating: 2
I can find tons of the latest Android phones for $1.00 so I find that to be a poor discussion. The Samsung is probably the only Android device worth owning.

I lost faith in Android having owned about 6 devices many of which were abandoned for updates months after release and have had to hard reboot many of them to get them to work but I keep an open mind because things change over time and I rather like the latest Android I have running of 4.1. Still I prefer Windows Phone because from day 1 its been rock solid never an issue. Ive never really been impressed with Apples devices they come in pretty packages but feel like the fisher price of OS's being too dumbed down for my liking. Apple really feels like I'm using Windows 3.1 Sorry if that offends Apple fans they certainly started all this smartphone war but they just aren't moving forward its still Windows 3.1 touch screened for me and its been how many years now? Apple feels old and dated.

I also wouldn't consider you using Windows emulator in old Android 2.3 as a real test of the Windows Phone OS and Windows Phone 8 is not Windows 8 but there is talk of a full blown Windows 8 on a phone.

Thats just the freedom of Windows all the best hardware like Android with a Rock Solid OS of Windows. Im sure someone will have a comment about that but reality when Microsoft has control of the hardware the OS is damn near perfect to perfect. Look at how stable the X-Box OS is. The windows phone os is even more stable.


By sprockkets on 4/12/2013 10:06:52 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
And I can go on about how iPhones have taken down mail servers, lost client e-mail, contacts, meetings, not just through active sync but through third party products as well and how Android devices on a corporate network can pose a security risk because of the side loading and how companies should seriously beef up AV security surrounding android mobile access to their company networks.


Weird, the iphone losing contacts and meetings through EAS. Wonder where the problem lies in this case?

Yes, due to an issue with the iphone and Exchange, an iphone can take down a mail server. Glad that was a problem both MS and apple fixed in a timely matter.

quote:
as well and how Android devices on a corporate network can pose a security risk because of the side loading and how companies should seriously beef up AV security surrounding android mobile access to their company networks.


Um, so what? That has nothing to do with Android working fine as it was intended.

AS for the rest of your post, well, that's nice. If only MS released a decent OS worth using back in 2007 instead of WM still stuck using a browser compatible with 1998's standards.

Instead, only apple and google gave it a swift kick in the monopolistic ass it deserved.


By Reclaimer77 on 4/13/2013 8:12:50 AM , Rating: 2
quote:
Windows Phone is holding its own in the US


On what planet!? How can you seriously say this with a straight face...


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By tayb on 4/11/2013 2:39:36 PM , Rating: 1
Developers will give up no more control to Microsoft than they currently give up to Google or Apple.

quote:
Then you have custom applications for business that you wouldn't want in the app store, but with Windows RT that's the only choice.


Why would anyone develop a custom business application to be run in the Metro UI? No one will do that. Custom business applications will always be desktop applications.


By invidious on 4/11/2013 3:50:44 PM , Rating: 4
You have a point with Apple, but that's not true at all for Google. Android supports side loading and 3rd part app stores.

I have bought android apps from websites such as humble bundle. The humble bundle site allows me to manage my apps bought through them with an app manager app on my android devices or I can download it directly from their website. I can download it to my PC or directly to my device.

Google gives a lot of power to the developer and consumer. If anything they can be criticized for giving too much power. But you can't have your cake and eat it too.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By karimtemple on 4/11/2013 4:26:57 PM , Rating: 2
win32 (What you're calling "desktop") is now a legacy platform. Windows Runtime software runs on all versions of Windows 8. Once given a reason to move from win32 to RT, there will be absolutely no turning back. The ability to run win32 software in Windows 8 is nothing more than a backwards-compatibility feature.

The (near) future Microsoft is betting on is one where your $200 7-inch Surface runs the exact same software as your $1000 Surface Pro. They've got the architecture in place right now, but they're doing an awful job of marketing and positioning their vision. It also doesn't help that the Start Screen has a handful of design failures.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By 91TTZ on 4/12/2013 11:25:04 AM , Rating: 2
I'm sure Microsoft wants that, but I don't think that's happening. Microsoft's main reason for switching to Windows Runtime apps on the Windows Store is because they take 30% of all money from app sales. Software developers hate this idea.

Windows 8, Windows Runtime, Windows Phone 8 and Microsoft Surface were all components of a larger initiative within Microsoft to make a strong push into the mobile space. It's failing on all fronts. Windows 8 isn't selling well at all, Windows Phone isn't selling, Surface isn't selling well, and people are ignoring the Windows Store.

Microsoft tried to bring this entire ecosystem online that required substantial internal investment on their part. While people think they're fine because people who avoid Windows 8 are buying Windows 7, Microsoft has to be shaking in their boots. They see that this strategy is failing and their future is being taken away from them.


By karimtemple on 4/12/2013 3:21:09 PM , Rating: 2
It doesn't seem that way to me. Microsoft saw a possible future where x86 was no longer the end-all-be-all, and they acted. Not that betting against Intel is too smart, lol. Still, Windows could no longer rely solely on x86 to thrive.

The mere existence of Runtime solves that problem. CE runs on x86, ARM, and even MIPS, but CE is also terribad and doesn't even share the same kernel as Windows proper. RT brings the all the codebases together. And now that the heavy lifting has been taken care of, Windows can suddenly show up on whatever platform turns out to be strong and popular enough (not just ARM). Naturally they'd want to take the opportunity to increase their revenue streams with a Windows Store; hell, Apple is doing it.

At the same time, they probably wanted to address their concern that we may hit a Supertablet Era, where one phone or tablet is so powerful and cheap that it would make more sense to just plug it into desktop and laptop docks (and probably others!) when you sit down. That's where unifying the interface came in.

To be honest, as long as a platform is competent, all it ever really needs is a competitive value proposition and an attractive software library. RT of course has none of that lol, but that doesn't mean it can never get that. If they handed me the company, I'd have everyone else buckling under raw product superiority, and I don't think I'd have to change Windows 8 that much. They'd have to hit MS with another round of antitrust suits because people wouldn't buy anything else.


By Breakfast Susej on 4/15/2013 9:29:05 AM , Rating: 2
The company I work for has a custom android application used by field agents on a daily basis.


By crispbp04 on 4/11/2013 12:26:23 PM , Rating: 2
I like the first gen Surface, so having more form factors will be great! I'd definitely buy a next gen arm tablet. Even though it isn't a powerhouse, I love my Surface RT. I am not unsatisfied with the app selection because I have enough stupid games to play, all my media plays perfectly like movies (I rip blu rays to 720p x264... surface RT consumes about 5% cpu on playback with perfect frame rates and resolution), music with xbox music cloud, streaming apps like Netflix/hulu)... The best part about it that I don't feel the need to fill holes in the OS by apps. I browse websites with IE10 and it works well for the majority of sites. It struggles with some sites that aren't optimized for IE10 (like yahoo fantasy sports site). The fact that it includes office was icing on the cake,

Whenever I get in a pinch I just use Teamviewer Touch to connect to my other PC's (both Win7/Win8) when I need to access something that isn't arm compatible (like visual studio 2012 or photoshop).

The Skydrive integration from my Win8 desktop to surface is fantastic. XBOX Music cloud is great, and overall the multi-device connected experience is unbeatable.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Mitch101 on 4/11/2013 12:26:53 PM , Rating: 5
Feels like the Zune all over again for some reason despite how good it is consumers didnt buy it. It had FM radio and Wireless sync abilities from day one. My zune 30 is still in use in my car plugged into the USB port. Two winters/summers still havent killed it and when I pull into my driveway or if I was warming up the car it would sync with the music and podcasts I had lined up on my PC. Sure it was a brick but its still alive and kicking today and well supported way past its prime. BluTooth sync will eventually replace it.

I think these items fail because there is just a massive amount of people out there who feel the need to destroy a product by Microsoft without ever using it and getting to know it.

Im days away from my Windows Phone 7 contract expiring with Sprint. Ive never had it freeze or crash on me and its just as fast as the day I bought it and Ive even loaded the latest 7.8 OS build on it and its still a rock solid device. Still people react like I bought a pager or flip phone and have negative opinions about it despite it being perfect for the two years Ive owned it. Funny enough as they had to upgrade to get siri and as I watch their devices get slower over time with OS updates.

Microsoft has some weird hate toward them I cant explain.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By sprockkets on 4/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Mitch101 on 4/12/2013 9:57:57 AM , Rating: 2
I apparently like Microsoft bricks that work and got supported well past their prime instead of replacing working products every 2 years because Im forced to because the update slowed down the brick to become unusable.


By sprockkets on 4/12/2013 10:10:37 PM , Rating: 2
Dude, who replaced their ipod touch cause it slowed down? Cause I have one right here that went from ios3 to ios5 and didn't slow down one bit.

It has its problems but speed never, ever was one of them.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Belard on 4/12/2013 10:59:16 AM , Rating: 2
The Zune was a copy of the iPod, but ugly with ugly turd colors. Brown?

Zune wasn't bad, it wasn't good enough. MS has a long history of killing anything that is outdated.


By Mitch101 on 4/12/2013 11:30:53 AM , Rating: 2
Zune was far better than the iPod at the time but Microsoft has and continues to have a major problem with marketing. FM radio and Wireless sync from day 1 there was no need to upgrade from the Zune. Heck what century is an iPhone/iPod going to get a memory slot? iPod is one area where the Android devices still haven't produced a decent iPod competitor.

iExpired - Without the insight of Steve Jobs Apple will die off again. Look at the history of Apple and looks whos running the ship Apple dies without a visionary.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Solandri on 4/11/2013 12:46:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Windows RT was a predictable faillure, but in a few years, most of the sofware will be in Metro Apps format and they run on both x86 and ARM. Then may be Windows RT will be relevant.

RT doesn't need to succeed. It is Microsoft's hedge against Intel, in case ARM ends up winning the CPU war.

Without RT, if ARM wins, Windows is dead. With RT, if ARM wins, Microsoft simply waves goodbye to Intel and continues on with ARM.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Motoman on 4/11/2013 12:57:47 PM , Rating: 2
Windows only lives by virtue of it's application support.

Software developers don't want to have to support 2 platforms. And no legacy Windows apps run on RT.

This is the primary reason why RT is derided even more than Win8 itself. Without Windows software support...it isn't Windows.

Microsoft should have called it something different - without the word "Windows" in the title. Then it probably would have been fine.


By jcourtes on 4/16/2013 12:35:45 PM , Rating: 2
Software developers wouldnt have to support multiple platforms.
Read up on the strategy of Microsoft with respect to API in relation to WP8, W8RT, and W8
Side-loading is possible on SurfaceRT
Also, anyone who has developed in .NET will be right at home developing for WP8, or W8RT.
I own a 920, a Surface RT, and run a W8 desktop.
as a few posters have mentioned before, the integration between them, along with skydrive, is absolutely stellar.

As someone else mentioned, RT is a strategy from Microsoft, and as far as i am concerned, I'm totally stoked about it.

And by the way, i bet about 80-90% of those trolling MS in the comments of this post, are writing their comments from a Windows Machine ;)


By inighthawki on 4/11/2013 4:27:02 PM , Rating: 2
What war? Intel and x86 isn't going anywhere anytime soon. ARM is not taking over anything outside of mobile space, and even then, tarting with haswell ARM may start being more and more irrelevant and we start to see x86 support with low power.

Windows RT is just an attempt to not miss out on what is trending. ARM makes up the majority of mobile devices right now, and it's a huge market, but anyone who believes that ARM would kill off x86 devices is delusional.


By 91TTZ on 4/11/2013 3:34:50 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Windows RT was a predictable faillure, but in a few years, most of the sofware will be in Metro Apps format and they run on both x86 and ARM.


How do you think that this will be possible? They are two completely different architectures. Software for one does not work on the other.


By invidious on 4/11/2013 3:43:50 PM , Rating: 2
I assume you mean that the market reception of android tablets was a failure. I have had a motorola Xoom since launch and it's great, always has been. I don't even see anything that newer android tablets offer that the Xoom doesn't.

One of the few cases where it didn't come back to bite you if you were an early adopter. Certainly can't say the same for first generation iPad owners.


RE: Before trolls jump in to say MS is crap
By Tony Swash on 4/12/2013 9:10:40 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
I remeber Motorolla XOOM tablet that was a miserable faillure.
It took a whole year and a push in the ass by Amazon for Android tablets to catch on.

Windows RT was a predictable faillure, but in a few years, most of the sofware will be in Metro Apps format and they run on both x86 and ARM. Then may be Windows RT will be relevant.

Only a few months in and there a a load of new apps, some i've never seen on iOS and Android. Good apps too. It will work. Give it time.


I don't share your optimism about Microsoft's future performance in mobile markets.

The nature of Microsoft's blunder in it's strategic response to the rise of mobile devices is perfectly exposed by it's recent priorities. Faced with exploding sales for powerful mobile computing devices it should have prioritised producing a well designed version of Office for iOS and Android with a top quality touch interface and combined that with an update for Windows using the familiar UI (instead of the pointlessly challenging Windows 8 interface) with clever integration features so users of the iOS and Android version of Office could work seamlessly with their Windows PCs and Macs. That way Microsoft might have been able (assuming it could actually produce a top quality touch version of Office) to become the key vendor of productivity software in the mobile space which would have brought with it all sorts of strategic benefits and opportunities.

If Microsoft had done that in a timely way, say a year ago, they could by now have been on the way to being a major software player in the mobile device arena instead of an irrelevance. It's the obsession with focussing on defending Windows that is crippling the company's strategic decision making. Microsoft did not need to be a major OS vendor on mobile to succeed as a software company in the mobile space.

Microsoft needs to wake up to the fact that they will never be a major OS player on mobile devices. That game is lost forever. But there is still much to play for, however the clock is ticking and unless they move fast quite soon all of Microsoft's software empire will be essentially irrelevant in the vast new mobile device markets.

The world's largest software company missed the emergence of world's largest new software market and ended up with no presence in it. Shockingly incompetent.


By Da W on 4/12/2013 11:26:06 AM , Rating: 2
I know more people without a Tablet tan people with a Tablet. The fight has only Begun.


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