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Hon Hai reported a 19 percent sales decline for Q1 2013 compared to Q1 2012

Hon Hai Precision Industry Co. saw an unexpected yearly decline in the first quarter of 2013 thanks to shrinking demand for Apple's iPhone. Hon Hai reported a 19 percent sales decline for Q1 2013 compared to Q1 2012. While analysts were expecting quarterly decline from Q4 2012, they didn't see the yearly decline coming.

Hon Hai posted sales earnings of T$808.87 billion ($26.96 billion USD) for the quarter ended March 2013. This was a drop from T$988.34 billion in Q4 2012 and a further decline from T$1 trillion in Q1 2012. 

Hon Hai, which collects about 60 to 70 percent of its revenue from the iPhone and iPad, saw a decrease in sales due to low demand for the iPhone in particular. 

Apple has hard a hard time keeping up the momentum of its products, and it shows in the company's shares. Shares have fallen from $702.10 in September to $426.98 as of today. Also, Apple's iPhone only represented about 19 percent of worldwide smartphone shipments in 2012 while all Android-powered smartphones accounted for about 70 percent.

Android will even beat Apple in the tablet sector this year, according to a new report from IDC. IPad shipments are expected to make up 46 percent of the tablet market for 2013, down from 51 percent in 2012. Android-powered tablets are expected to increase their market share to 49 percent in 2013, up from 42 percent in 2012.

Samsung is a particularly strong competitor to Apple as far as Android-powered devices go. We even saw a bit of fear in Apple as Phil Schiller (Apple's senior vice president of worldwide marketing) talked trash about Android on the eve of the Samsung Galaxy S IV release. 

Samsung is even racing Apple to make a wearable device this year -- much like a smart watch -- and has plans to trump Apple's new spaceship campus with a more impressive headquarters in the U.S.

Source: Reuters



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RE: Lack of Apple innovation
By retrospooty on 4/10/2013 11:36:32 PM , Rating: 2
I really don't care what you really don't see. I am really tired of repeating myself and really tired of reading you repeating yourself. I was really just talking to someone else.


RE: Lack of Apple innovation
By TakinYourPoints on 4/11/2013 6:02:43 PM , Rating: 2
What I see is reality.

You claim that a platform that sells less, has inferior hardware (a Nexus 10 can't even drive its display smoothly), no applications, and no online usage, has "surpassed" the platform that has sold magnitudes more, has much better hardware, and all the third party developer support.

I'll take whatever you're smoking.


RE: Lack of Apple innovation
By Cheesew1z69 on 4/11/2013 6:54:44 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
What I see is reality.
LOL! Yea...ok...


RE: Lack of Apple innovation
By retrospooty on 4/11/2013 7:17:28 PM , Rating: 2
I have no clue what you are talking about. I was going back and forth with Tony about him changing the subject from features and tech to finance and you, as usual, take one sentence out of context and want to derail the whole thread and make it another one of your dissertation about how the only things that matter are apps? You are so far up on your soapbox you aren't even having the same conversation as the people you are talking at LOL.... Pompous ass.


RE: Lack of Apple innovation
By TakinYourPoints on 4/12/2013 1:28:50 AM , Rating: 3
Here is context:

quote:
And yup... I am surprised by the sales #'s of tablets. I am surprised by the platform. I am surprised that I even bought two (much less one). They are quite alot nicer than I knew at release. A great product idea from Apple. They deserve the profits they reaped for the past few years... But again, now that competition caught up and surpassed and the tide is shifting.


You are specifically talking about tablets here.

You love lists. Here's a list of things a platform which has "caught up and surpassed" the iPad has.

- Slower hardware
- Choppier UI/browser and worse touch responsiveness than even a first generation iPad
- Almost no target optimized applications
- Almost no new third party development, even from the majors, despite Android being on tablets for two years now
- Sales figures so bad that even Amazon's Fire HD is underperforming based on channel checks, and that is the best selling Android tablet by a wide margin
- A tiny blip in tablet online traffic and downloads

The thing is that you cannot admit to be wrong for whatever weird reasons you have so you bring up "context" as a dodge.

Well, there's your context quoted by you, right up there.

It isn't hard for normal people to say "sorry, my bad", I gladly admit when I'm wrong, but all I really see you do is deflect or dodge. You are so trapped by your story that reality is meaningless.

quote:
Pompous ass.


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RE: Lack of Apple innovation
By retrospooty on 4/12/2013 1:40:02 AM , Rating: 2
I would say re read the whole thing again to get the context of the conversation but you're too far up on your soapbox to get anything. Hint - think about what the conversation was about BEFORE you took one tiny part out of context. This might require you reread the posts. Hint #2 - The conversation was about a Forrest and you are focusing on one tree.

You are too funny. Any excuse to do your narrative. So narrow.


RE: Lack of Apple innovation
By TakinYourPoints on 4/12/2013 2:10:19 AM , Rating: 2
No, I read the entire thread and clearly I'm too stupid to follow.

You explicitly said that the iPad has been caught up and surpassed even though it is by far the leading tablet platform in every single objective measure.

Even the shifting you talk about farther up is taking the practical form of low single digit percentages, but obviously you were talking about something else.

I know taking back a wrong statement means you have to swallow your pride, so enlighten me please, tell me what you really meant when you said all that.

The way you noodle around is positively Clintonesque.


RE: Lack of Apple innovation
By retrospooty on 4/12/2013 8:07:59 AM , Rating: 2
OMG you are so thick headed. You see a launch pad for your soap box rant and all logic goes out the window.

This had nothing to do with iPad... Karlostomy (the OP) said "History does suggests that apple goes through 'innovation cycles', however I sadly see nothing new on the Apple horizon that impresses at all. I feel that's being quite objective.". I added that I agreed and since 2007 with the initial IOS, they haven't done much at all. That is what this discussion was about.

Tony, in an effort to invalidate my opinion and poke fun (I admit was poking at him too) put in a blurb I said from several years ago (yes, the loser did a search) where I said I didnt think the iPad would be that big. On a small side note I mentioned that " Yes, I am surprised by the sales #'s of tablets. I am surprised by the platform. I am surprised that I even bought two (much less one). They are quite alot nicer than I knew at release. A great product idea from Apple. They deserve the profits they reaped for the past few years." ... Then proceeded to go back to the topic at hand how Apple hasnt innovated lately and has been surpassed. Not about tablets, about thier products in general. Thus the data points mentioned in the article above.

You saw the word iPad and that in the same paragraph and went off on your typical dissertion railing against a conversation no-one was even having and you STILL couldnt grasp it after being told you had it wrong AND re-reading it. My god man, i know you arent stupid, I can only think that you are like a rabid politician, seeing something you can use to get on your soap box and just ignoring all logic even when explained just for the sake of the stump speach. Feel better now? You got your speach out as you do when you derail every single thread here.


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