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Sounds like Microsoft won't be evoking any fond memory of blue screens of death

News continues to trickle out about the upcoming version of Microsoft Corp.'s (MSFT) Windows operating system.  Set to land later this year, builds of the new OS, code-named "Blue" have trickled out to select partners -- which in turn has led to leaks.

The latest news to emerge comes courtesy of Roman L. (handle:AngleWZR), a developer who has been analyzing the leaked builds.  He notes on his Twitter that the latest leaked build -- build 9375 -- has a text string in the lower right-hand corner labeling it "Windows 8.1".
Windows Blue 8.1

Paul Thurrott, a top Windows writer/blogger, affirmed this designation stating that "Windows 8.1" will indeed be the launch name for the new OS.  He posts to Twitter:
One other minor piece of Windows 8.1/Blue related news courtesy of Mr. Thurrott's WinSuperSite : apparently Microsoft has tweaked the Search Charm in its latest builds.  Where Windows 8 made you pick between "Apps, Settings, or Files" , the new search does away with that, allowing you to start typing immediately.  Instead of pre-selecting the category, it simply clumps the results by category.

Windows Blue Search
[Image Source: WinSuperSite]

ZDNet Windows blogger Mary Jo Foley says that Windows 8.1 should hit RTM in August.  A beta is rumored to be slotted for Microsoft's June BUILD conference.

Sources: Twitter [AngelWZR], [Thurrott], WinSuperSite, ZDNet



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RE: If only...
By inighthawki on 4/3/2013 9:05:29 PM , Rating: 2
Personally I've never seen much of a valid argument. "Being able to see the windows at the same time" actually isn't as much of an argument as you think. In eye tracking tests Microsoft showed that virtually nobody ever looks anywhere outside of the start menu when it's open. Why not use the entire screen realestate and provide a much better program layout?


RE: If only...
By Motoman on 4/4/2013 4:46:55 PM , Rating: 1
I have no idea what you're referring to with "Being able to see the windows at the same time."

But this strikes me as the best possible demonstration of how clueless Microsoft, and their fanboys are, in defending the Metrosexual UI:

quote:
In eye tracking tests Microsoft showed that virtually nobody ever looks anywhere outside of the start menu when it's open.


...really? Let's think about that for a moment, shall we? First of all, unless you, the user, have made a deliberate action to open the Start menu, it's not open. Ergo, you wouldn't be looking at it. Secondly, if you, the user, did purposefully open the Start menu, it would be because you're looking for something - like the program you want to launch. Ergo...you're going to be looking at it. Once you launch said program, the Start menu closes and then - gasp - you're not looking at it anymore.

You'd make just as much sense by saying something like "Microsoft's studies have determined that people only drink when their mouths are open - and when their mouths are closed, they aren't drinking."

Get. A. F%cking. Clue.


RE: If only...
By inighthawki on 4/5/2013 1:29:13 AM , Rating: 2
Are you seriously so ignorant as to say "I don't understand what you mean but I'd like to counter your argument"?

The retardism in your post is absolutely astounding. One of the most common complaints about the start screen is that it's fullscreen and thus people can no longer have it open and see active desktop windows at the same time. The eye tracking test disproves that people actually do this.

It's like you just walked into a situation where you have zero context of an argument and randomly took someone's side with an argument that makes no sense. Wow.


RE: If only...
By Motoman on 4/5/2013 3:11:53 PM , Rating: 2
You don't read much, do you?

I started off with your first point - noted that I don't know what you meant by it, and moved on to *another* point. I didn't refute it or even make any further comments about it...because I don't know what it is.

I then moved on to a quote directly taken from your post and then debunked it. Utterly. Your "analysis" of the "eye tracking test" is complete gibberish - in fact, what that test shows is that the LAST thing you want to do is to cover the whole monitor with a "start screen" - because people ONLY want to look at that very infrequently.

It's like you just walked into some conversation, ignored what you just heard someone say, and then went off completely in the wrong direction. Oh wait...that is what you just did.
You don


RE: If only...
By inighthawki on 4/5/2013 9:43:03 PM , Rating: 2
Apparently you don't get it, because they weren't two separate points, the second part of my post was in direct relation to the first thing I said. Therefore if you didn't get the first thing, you cannot possibly provide a valid comment against the second part. Understanding the first point is prerequisite knowledge for an informed response against the second.

The fact that people are always looking at the start menu while it's open is reason for expanding it to use the full screen real estate instead of a small area. If people don't look anywhere else while using it, it's wasted space.


RE: If only...
By just4U on 4/24/2013 12:04:49 PM , Rating: 2
I find the not knowing which windows are open a huge nuisance. Especially since I tend to have tons open all at once and than close them down upon leaving my computer. A quick look below on win7 shows me roughly what I all got open. Can't see that in win8.

M.. would likely hate that as well. Very frustrating.


RE: If only...
By just4U on 4/24/2013 12:24:09 PM , Rating: 2
I only spent a few days with win8. I'd have to re-install it to refresh all the things I disliked about it. Off the top of my head, The security feature account was puzzling and hard to set up (especially if it's not going to be your computer) Setting up ISP email accounts was harsh and should have been easy. The fade out on the right to access your menus and power user features is irritating, as is not seeing what you all have open..

Jumping to the desktop is disappointing in almost every regard since it's mostly useless (except maybe for browsing the internet if you don't like the built metro look)Installing 3rd party cheesy "bring back the start menu" programs is at best so so.. I'd prefer that to be a Microsoft implementation. Finally, many of the commands that have moved forward with windows simply don't work as they once did which was MS's saving grace. The ability to do everything a 100 different ways since users all have different approaches for getting at what they want to do.

The OS is tailored around tablets and phones but sort of expects the desktop user to re-learn everything. That's not a great approach by Microsoft when you consider the millions upon millions of desktop users out there. The learning curve should have been reversed. Or at the very least they should have made sure that desktop users had some bones thrown their way for points of reference.


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