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Pre-orders have already started

When it comes to first person shooters, one of the most popular franchises comes from DICE and EA in the form of Battlefield. The next game in the franchise will be Battlefield 4, and DICE has revealed that the fourth game in the franchise will be a new benchmark in game design and multiple player engagement.

Battlefield 4 will launch in the fall of 2013 using the proprietary Frostbite 3 game engine. The developers promise the game will give players a glimpse into the future of interactive entertainment.

In the single player mode, players will be able to experience huge environments filled with all sorts of destruction along with an arsenal of different vehicles, weapons, and more. In the single player missions, players will be able to direct squad mates and the single player mode will track the player's progress. The game will require players to work with their squad mates in both the single player campaign and multiplayer modes.

"We are so humbled and proud to debut Battlefield 4 on a global stage with simultaneous events in San Francisco and Stockholm. To be this early in development, and to already be so polished is a huge achievement for the DICE team and reflection of their passion and commitment to driving the franchise forward. Today's demo was just the beginning -- we have so much more in store," said Patrick Soderlund, Executive Vice President, EA Games Label.

Players can pre-order Battlefield 4 at participating retail outlets and will perceive the Premium expansion pack at no additional cost with their pre-order. The Digital Deluxe Edition will be available exclusively as a download via Origin.

Source: Daily Finance

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Sorry EA..
By Daneel_ on 3/27/2013 12:06:19 PM , Rating: 5
Sorry EA. I point blank refuse to buy this game, or any of your other games, until you remove the crushing DRM imposed upon your games . Not lying to your customers about game requirements would also go a long way. (Server-side processing required?? Really?)

RE: Sorry EA..
By Amoro on 3/27/13, Rating: 0
RE: Sorry EA..
By Daneel_ on 3/27/2013 12:37:41 PM , Rating: 2
I accept that. I probably should have written "upon many of your games", however my point stands: the DRM they have placed on some of their games means that I refuse to buy any of their offerings.

RE: Sorry EA..
By StevoLincolnite on 3/27/2013 7:17:24 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, I got burned by EA's Origin and Battlefield 3's DRM on release, so got my refund and learnt my lesson not to go near EA games unless they are on steam.

Sad part is, there are bucket loads of people who feel the same way, makes you wonder how much money/sales they are passing up!

RE: Sorry EA..
By Ristogod on 3/28/2013 10:06:16 AM , Rating: 2
Less than you think. BF3 is pretty popular and quite a fun game and there is an abundance of people playing at any given time. The majority of them are Premium members also.

I also hate having my gaming library spread across multiple services, but why people find one form of DRM (Steam) completely acceptable and absolutely appall another form of DRM (Origin) when they basically do the same thing in the same manner is beyond me.

RE: Sorry EA..
By AnnihilatorX on 3/30/2013 8:06:11 PM , Rating: 2
Both Origin and Steam count as DRM in my book. The only true non-DRM game library platform is Desura.

RE: Sorry EA..
By MZperX on 3/28/2013 11:40:20 AM , Rating: 2
Yup. If it's not on Steam (or can be activated on Steam) I don't buy. I passed up a number of game deals lately because they were EA Origin exclusive. No thanks.

My game backlog, due to killer Steam sales, is so huge that if I don't buy another game for a year I still won't run out quality titles to play. I have well over a dozen AAA games I've been itching to play and haven't even installed yet.
EA can stuff their DRM-plagued Origin exclusive offerings up their tailpipe.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Totally on 3/31/2013 6:08:11 PM , Rating: 2
I have no qualms with Origin it's the same thing as steam in my book but never again will I purchase a online only game like Sim City. DRM isn't the problem (but it's at the root), it is this stupid push towards cloud gaming.

RE: Sorry EA..
By max_payne on 3/27/2013 12:41:12 PM , Rating: 2
Easy, buy the game but use a pirated version. No more drm annoyance.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Motoman on 3/27/2013 12:50:35 PM , Rating: 5
Nope. Buying the game tells them that it's OK to abuse the customer with DRM.

Do without. And ideally, send them a note telling them that you *would* have bought their game...if only it didn't have all that DRM on it...

RE: Sorry EA..
By kleinma on 3/27/13, Rating: -1
RE: Sorry EA..
By Reclaimer77 on 3/27/13, Rating: -1
RE: Sorry EA..
By Spuke on 3/27/2013 6:00:46 PM , Rating: 2
Sure, I skipped Battlefield 3.
You're missing out. BF3 is friggin awesome!

RE: Sorry EA..
By 2bdetermine on 3/27/2013 6:28:52 PM , Rating: 2
You're missing out. BF3 is friggin awesome!

Yeah! frigging overprice, frigging garbage DLC an easy way for them to make a quick buck...

RE: Sorry EA..
By luhar49 on 3/28/2013 2:41:29 AM , Rating: 3
I have played BF3 for 300+ hours.
It is absolutely worth the price I paid for the game.

I spent much more on hardware upgrade to play this game with all eye candy turned on. EA developers certainly deserved the price I paid upfront for the game..which is absolutely amazing.

BF4 looks even better and I would pre-order as soon as they open it.

RE: Sorry EA..
By TakinYourPoints on 3/27/2013 6:45:53 PM , Rating: 2
Regenerating health, grinding for gear and perks, slower gunplay, boring "realistic" physics, frigging Rush Mode, bleh. The game looks gorgeous but this might be the first one I skip. BF3 was such a downgrade from BC2 and this looks like more of the same.

BF1942 is still the peak of the series, so insanely fun, goofy physics and WAKE ISLAND. I miss the old DICE. :/

RE: Sorry EA..
By hubb1e on 3/27/2013 6:58:29 PM , Rating: 2
I prefer slower gunplay. I'm quite happy with BF3. Hardcore mode removes regenerating health and grinding for gear is now an expected part of these types of games. They do start you off with the best rounded guns in the game except for the sniper rifles.

RE: Sorry EA..
By TakinYourPoints on 3/27/2013 7:02:04 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah, it all comes down to personal preference. Slower gunplay clearly works for lots of people, otherwise the trend in FPS wouldn't have continued in that direction. :)

RE: Sorry EA..
By Spuke on 3/27/2013 7:09:08 PM , Rating: 2
What's slow about it? You guys sound like you haven't played. Seriously I'm on there nearly every night. Fun as all get out.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Daneel_ on 3/28/2013 1:21:59 AM , Rating: 2
It's slow, in that it's not 'tourney'-style as Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament were.

I miss Rocket Arena so much.. :(

RE: Sorry EA..
By TakinYourPoints on 3/28/2013 1:23:29 AM , Rating: 2
RA3, woop!

RE: Sorry EA..
By maugrimtr on 3/28/2013 9:33:45 AM , Rating: 3
BF3 was not a sequel to BFBC2... They are two different game families. BF3 has more tactical gun play, i.e. not running about half cocked where you kill someone, run out your clip, and get mown down by another spray master. Battlefield means tanks, jets and tactics. BFBC was a faster game style with smaller maps.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Strunf on 3/28/2013 8:55:22 AM , Rating: 3
Slow? this is battlefield not Quake, I'm all for making it as realist as possible and doing a 360° shouldn't be in a blink of an eye.

RE: Sorry EA..
By MrBlastman on 3/28/2013 4:16:59 PM , Rating: 2
Rocket Arena was a rush! I played every single iteration of it up until Quake 3. RIP Quake 4. It should have been popular online but alas it wasn't. :( UT was awesome too. Ahhh the days of hardcore shooters and... hardcore players are fading.

At least we have Mechwarrior Online despite its flaws. The gameplay is still a rush and punishes noobs harshly until they learn the game.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Asetha on 3/28/2013 4:51:21 AM , Rating: 2
BF3 has Wake Island.....

RE: Sorry EA..
By TakinYourPoints on 3/28/2013 6:38:23 PM , Rating: 1
No ships, no goofy vehicle physics, not the same

RE: Sorry EA..
By Daneel_ on 3/28/2013 1:40:37 AM , Rating: 2
Hi Reclaimer,

Yep, I'm old enough and ugly enough to remember the terrible DRM that used to exist..

Unfortunately, in today's case, not all people have internet all the time. The easiest example of this would be if you were to catch the train to and from university/work and wanted to play while in transit. Unless you have tethering and a reasonable data plan, you can't play it in that situation, which might be an hour or more each day.

The internet connection is besides the point for me though; I accept that games may require some form of 'online' to authenticate and function (Steam and are success stories), what bothers me more is the online-only element that EA have used with SimCity. One of the major drawcards of the series was the ability to create worlds as large and sprawling as your desire, with multiple saves so you could have a bit of destructive fun every now and then.. In other words, the ability to play by yourself and manage your own worlds. Forcing users to migrate to online-only, with one save state and no control is what has ruined the experience for me.

The DRM itself isn't the issue in this case, it's the byproduct of the DRM. The driving cause of the issue is still the DRM though. EA needs to re-examinte their insatiable desire for control.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Manch on 3/28/2013 2:57:46 AM , Rating: 2
BF3 is fun, you should check it out.

While I'm not a fan of DRM, it doesn't bother me except for the always on BS. I have highspeed internet (80up/80down) at home, but I also go TDY and deploy a lot to places where I don't have access to internet or sometimes running water. Being able to play single player on my laptop without an internet connection is a huge deal for me. Diablo III is ruined for me. I was so excited about that game, when it finally released. Two days later I go TDY, crammed in the cattle car(coach) for a nice 8hr flight. Wait, WTF I cant play? Why not? This is Effin BS!

I'm sure several people have had that experience. And that's where DRM goes too far.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Frallan on 3/28/2013 4:31:27 AM , Rating: 2
Ohh Im older than that I remember copying tapes for my C64. But leaving that aside I bought a lot of licences for games then to but then I always used the cracked versions to get around the DRM. I found that that was a win/win - the developer got their Dosh and i got trouble free gaming. And already then I was allergic to companies installing things on my computer that I didn't explicitly want and even more when those programs reported home.

That got so bad when SONY introduced Root kits on their music CD:s that I have since then not spent 1 cent on SONY music or software. If there was something I wanted i have activly sought the cracked/ripped version out and also told my communities how/where to find those versions.

My stand on Origin now is:
* Advice all I know not to install or buy
* If possible use pirated software

That will go on until EA gets a decent support and a decent attitude towards their customers. And apologizes for for earlier behavior.

Now that is as likely to happen as snow falling in Sahara so Ill just go on spending my 100-200 USD a month for games/software/music somewhere else and since I do that my friends will be less likly to buy EA stuff bc Im not in MP in those games and since Im telling them why not.

What Im saying here is that the DRM EA is imposing is the worst so far (internet required, snooping programs that keeps track of what you have installed and how you use it) - their attitude stinks to high heaven and their support is non existent on top of that their productions are expensive therefore I think you are wrong in your post.

RE: Sorry EA..
By TheEinstein on 3/28/2013 4:45:03 AM , Rating: 3
"OMFG Internet required!!!???"

I am a semi-truck driver. I buy 6 gigs of internet a month, but some area's are of course blacked out. Kingsgate Canada is a bad spot, no internet. Heck Canada is a bad spot since I pay per megabyte up there with extra costs and fee's.

Why should I be stuck paying huge internet costs to play a game?

This is why I shall never play Diablo II, never play this game, nor play other internet required games.

RE: Sorry EA..
By wordsworm on 3/27/2013 10:52:21 PM , Rating: 1
I've been thinking of doing that with my next Mercedes. Buy one, leave it in the garage... steal the second from the lot and use that one. They charge too much for them anyways.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Tony Swash on 3/27/2013 12:50:19 PM , Rating: 2
I literally cannot wait for this game, I waste countless hours playing Battlefield 3 already. The browser based multiplayer game finder is a pain but the actual game is already fantastic so an upgrade will take it to new heights.

If only Simcity hadn't been so limited ....sigh....guess you can't have everything ;)

RE: Sorry EA..
By Spuke on 3/27/2013 6:01:26 PM , Rating: 2
I literally cannot wait for this game, I waste countless hours playing Battlefield 3 already.
Damn, we actually agree on something.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Tony Swash on 3/27/2013 9:15:47 PM , Rating: 2
Damn, we actually agree on something.

We should form a squad ;)

RE: Sorry EA..
By TakinYourPoints on 3/27/2013 5:56:38 PM , Rating: 2
It isn't any different than what happens with Steam. Origin isn't as good a program as Steam but it works well enough.

My biggest problem is that the series got boring. BF1942 was by far the most fun game in the series, goofy physics and all. BF2 was really fun back in the day, BC2 was decent, but I only managed about 4 or 5 hours of BF3 before I was done. Regenerating health, "realistic" vehicle physics, rush mode (ugh), the game doesn't have the magic or fun that the older shooters did.

BF4 looks like more of the same. Part of me wants to get it because it looks gorgeous and it would show off the power of my rig, but the gameplay looks as boring as before. Maybe if there's a good deal on it.

FPS have gotten so boring with their new rules and dumbed down mechanics. Its no wonder I've gone to SC2 and DOTA 2 for my multiplayer fix over the last two years, way more challenging.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Reclaimer77 on 3/27/2013 6:01:50 PM , Rating: 1
If you want to push your rig, I can personally attest to Bioshock Infinite. Literally the most detailed high-res textures I've ever seen, EVER.

Great gameplay too. Believe the hype, every "pc gamer" NEEDS to get it I'm telling ya.

RE: Sorry EA..
By TakinYourPoints on 3/27/2013 6:51:37 PM , Rating: 2
I'm about 4 hours into Bioshock Infinite, everything cranked on my GTX 680. Its really good! You know what else is good is Tomb Raider, I think I like it as much as Uncharted 2. The gunplay is surprisingly fun and the character models/textures are some of the best I've seen in a game.

Its weird playing all these new single player games after nothing but Starcraft 2 and DOTA 2 multiplayer the last couple months, but thankfully they're all really fun!

RE: Sorry EA..
By Spuke on 3/27/2013 6:05:22 PM , Rating: 2
F that! BF3 is fun as all get out! And there's tons of modes to try out. Quite frankly I think it's an order of magnitude more fun than ALL of the previous BF games. I'll even go so far as saying all the previous one's sucked ass compared to BF3.

RE: Sorry EA..
By TakinYourPoints on 3/27/2013 6:59:46 PM , Rating: 2
The move in shooters to grinding for gear/perks, regenerating health that encourages conservative play, etc etc, really isn't for me. BF1942 was my favorite, partly because the physics were so insanely goofy and fun. There would always be a "Battlefield Moment" thanks to the vehicle physics doing something ridiculous and awesome.

For me the newer games are pretty boring in comparison and have a lower, flattened out skill cap. Its all kind of easier and more boring now, but I understand doing that to capture a larger audience. My head is really stuck in the early 2000s when it comes to shooters. Quake and Quake 3 are still the pinnacles for me, so yeah. :)

RE: Sorry EA..
By Spuke on 3/27/2013 7:12:32 PM , Rating: 1
The move in shooters to grinding for gear/perks, regenerating health that encourages conservative play
Dude that's YOUR opinion. I don't find the play conservative at all and the regenerating health doesn't extend alive time for me. Probably 1% in my gameplay. Maybe you need to stop playing on newb servers and play with some skilled people. Have you played CG or Gun Master? Are you telling me that's slow or conservative? I question that you've actually played the game.

RE: Sorry EA..
By TakinYourPoints on 3/27/2013 7:33:45 PM , Rating: 2
That's why I said "really isn't for me". Of course its my opinion. I prefer faster shooters, simple. BF1942 had big gaps in action as well but the fun of the physics engine, sea battles, etc etc, more than made up for it.

I've played those modes you mentioned, and I greatly prefer more old school shooters. The most fun I had at a LAN last year wasn't BF3 or CoD, it was good old Quake 3 and DOOM. I like speed.

Why are you so defensive about BF3? Not everyone is going to share your love for modern shooters, no big deal.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Spuke on 3/27/13, Rating: 0
RE: Sorry EA..
By TakinYourPoints on 3/27/2013 11:04:42 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not insulting the people who play it, I'm saying why the game isn't for me.

RE: Sorry EA..
By Strunf on 3/28/2013 9:03:30 AM , Rating: 2
That's probably cause for you Battlefield should look like COD, we the old guard want battlefield to look like battlefield, Regen, unlimited ammo and other pieces of crap made BF3 a lot less strategic than the previous versions...

Anyways with the BF4 video you should rejoice yourself BF4 will be just another COD like game just like you want...

RE: Sorry EA..
By FITCamaro on 3/28/2013 8:39:45 AM , Rating: 2
I actually spent far more time on the Desert Combat mod. Back when multiplayer was just pick your kit and go. Not "you've played the most so get to be uber" or "got money? buy your way to better stuff".

RE: Sorry EA..
By Frallan on 3/28/2013 4:12:23 AM , Rating: 2

I refuse to have Origin running on my computer nowdays. I bought BF3 and ME3 and played for a while but the reporting Origin did on my behaviour and what I have on my computer that is not theirs is unaccaptable.

"The whole principle [of censorship] is wrong. It's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't have steak." -- Robert Heinlein

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