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No specifics about the watch have been released yet

Apple better watch its back: Samsung is racing to release a smart watch, too.

As the global market for smartphones heads toward saturation (its growth is expected to slow to 9.8 percent in 2017 from 27 percent this year), tech companies are moving forward to the next big thing -- wearable devices.

Reports indicate that Apple will release a smart watch, which acts much like a smartphone, as soon as this year. But it looks like Apple's biggest smartphone competitor has the same idea. 

“We’ve been preparing the watch product for so long,” said Lee Young Hee, executive vice president of Samsung’s mobile business. “We are working very hard to get ready for it. We are preparing products for the future, and the watch is definitely one of them.

“The issue here is who will first commercialize it so consumers can use it meaningfully."

Hee didn't mention any specifics about Samsung's smart watch, such as what it will feature, how much it will cost and when it will be available.


Samsung is likely hoping to beat Apple to the punch because a smart watch could multi-task and connect to devices such as smartphones and tablets -- meaning that the first company to sell a smart watch could hook customers into their particular platform.

While making it to the finish line first will have its advantages, Samsung could also have the upper hand when it comes to pricing, since it makes its own chips and displays. Apple is notorious for having much higher-priced items.

Not much is known about Apple's smart watch either, but a few details have leaked in recent months. For instance, Apple is building the watch's iOS from the ground up instead of starting with the iPod nano's touch operating system (which has a screen about the size of a watch); the company is working on the iPhone's iOS so it can support the device; it will likely have many iPhone-like features, and it could be released later this year.

Last month, a patent application for a "Bi-stable spring with flexible display" was filed by Apple in 2011. It described a bi-stable spring that would be made out of thin steel and wrapped in fabric covering, then heat-sealed. The display would be located on one side of the bracelet (overlaid with an adhesive) and the logic board and battery would be placed on the other side. It also showed a universal fit, a plethora of onboard sensors, wireless charging, etc.

The fact that Samsung is also now releasing a smart watch is meaningful to the mobile device market, as Samsung is Apple's No. 1 competitor in the smartphone realm. Apple's iPhone only represented about 19 percent of worldwide smartphone shipments in 2012 while all Android-powered smartphones accounted for about 70 percent. Android will even beat Apple in the tablet sector this year, according to a new report from IDC. According to IDC, iPad shipments are expected to make up 46 percent of the tablet market for 2013, down from 51 percent in 2012. Android-powered tablets are expected to increase their market share to 49 percent in 2013, up from 42 percent in 2012.

Source: Bloomberg



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They would be stupid not to
By Milliamp on 3/19/2013 12:18:58 PM , Rating: 0
Through the history of computing, things have gotten smaller and more portable. Mainframes > PC > laptop > tablets/phones etc. Of course technology will enable dick tracy type watches.

There are numerous creative uses for such a device besides conveniently telling time. Hands free calling is one of them. You can read text messages on it without getting your phone out of pocket or dictate them back. Working out and want to skip the song you are listening to without getting your phone out of your pocket? No problem. Want to read a todo list or a grocery list without looking at your phone? Sure.

It would also do activity monitoring like fitbit or fuelband. Facetime? Sure. Low res camera? why not?

Instead of having to take your phone out of your pocket frequently it becomes more of a communication hub that the watch syncs with.

There are probably tons of uses for it I didn't even think of but aside from those there are legal reasons to get a least a working prototype on the market. Star Trek had tablet computers in the 60's but it did't stop companies from walking into court and claiming the idea ~50 years later.

There are a few obvious designs for such a watch and some other not so obvious ones and filing design patents for them is a legal land grab because of the current patent system. If the companies making the products don't file the design patents the trolls will anyway.

At least if everyone shows their hand now if someone does end up with a design patent on something as obvious as a touch screen interface without keys the 14 year sand timer on the design patent can start. 14 years seems like an eternity but the design patent for the iPhone that Samsung was found to infringe is provably close to 7 years old now.

When Motorola is being bought for $13 billion mostly for their patent portfolio I don't see how you could afford not to learn from the lessons of the past and get involved in smart watches early.

Any company who wants to enter into that market late would be forced to buy a company already involved (like Google and Motorola), lose your shirt in court like Samsung's famous $1B loss, or pay business crippling royalties like HTC is.

Sure damages in Samsungs case have been reduced but not without a lot of legal expenses and difficulty. I would argue based on the way things are now with smart phones that it would be reckless abandonment for them not to be working on a smart watch for legal reasons alone if nothing else.




RE: They would be stupid not to
By xti on 3/19/13, Rating: -1
RE: They would be stupid not to
By Milliamp on 3/19/2013 2:04:30 PM , Rating: 2
I don't think it's about being too lazy to reach for your phone, it's mostly about being too busy with something else. When I am on my motorcycle, in the gym, or mowing the law etc. I hate reaching to get my phone out of my pocket.

If I am at a stop light it is nothing to glance over at my wrist to read a text message or see what calls I may have missed but if I pull out my phone and the light changes I have to stuff my phone back into my pocket and maybe even put my glove back on with cars behind me.

I also don't recommend operating a touch screen phone with boxing gloves on. You can't really add a full keyboard to a watch but because it is fixed to your wrist so hardware buttons for things like up/down and select could be added to the outer edge that would allow gloved operation of basic functions (like changing songs or playlists or navigating a fitness app) are possible.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By xti on 3/19/2013 2:05:30 PM , Rating: 2
oh no i totally agree, i just thought the bigger picture is going to get a little ridicule here and there.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By Nortel on 3/19/13, Rating: -1
RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/19/2013 3:53:20 PM , Rating: 4
You do realize that Samdung has had this under development for a long time right? You do also realize that smartwatches werent invented by Apple right? You do reealize that Apple is copying the whole concept of a smartwatch dont you? They have been around a long time.

https://www.google.com/search?q=fossil+smartwatch&...

No,, I am sure you dont realize a damn thing. I bet even after looking at those Fossil and Sony products on that link you sill think Apple pre-inveted it dont you?

Seriously, every time you post you show your ignorance.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By Cheesew1z69 on 3/19/2013 4:09:32 PM , Rating: 2
RE: They would be stupid not to
By Nortel on 3/19/2013 4:13:06 PM , Rating: 1
How do you know Apple hasn't had this under development for 10 years? I'm just saying it's a little convenient that news breaks about Apple's smartwatch and a month later we have this Samsung news.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/19/2013 4:50:41 PM , Rating: 2
"How do you know Apple hasn't had this under development for 10 years? I'm just saying it's a little convenient that news breaks about Apple's smartwatch and a month later we have this Samsung news."

Again, every post shows your complete and total ignorance. I posted pics of EXISTING smartwatches on the market today and you STILL want to act as if Apple invented it? OK, how about arunp's link below? Sony has had one for 2 years and Fossil was making them long before that. It's not a new product or a new segment. Apple is copying it, so is Samsung. Seriously, all companies copy, get over it and stop acting as if Apple invented everything that they make and that they dont copy. Its just rediculous. Do you still think Samsung copied the 16,32,64gb ram sizes from Apple like you said a few weeks ago? LOL This is almost as dumb as that. That shows a fundamental lack of understanding of math and how menory works, but this today is pure denial.

http://www.dailytech.com/Article.aspx?newsid=30157...

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/...


RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/19/2013 4:57:41 PM , Rating: 3
RE: They would be stupid not to
By Milliamp on 3/19/2013 8:56:00 PM , Rating: 1
To play devils advocate Apple legal team could point you here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004A83WB2

There are a few companies that made watch bands for nano essentially making them a smart watch. Apple fanboys could probably argue that nano was one of the first real mass market smart watches. The bands were made by 3rd party companies but if Apple resold them though their store like a lot of other accessories it could be argued that Apple was technically already selling a smart watch.

Even on a serious note, if the thought didn't occur to them at some point during the life of the nano they would have to have been completely unconscious so it's pretty likely their internal documents start talking about it back when they started developing the nano or sooner and not when they made the press releases just recently confirming the effort.

I can assure you teams of lawyers are almost certainly going to get paid millions of dollars discussing this very point in the court room.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By Cheesew1z69 on 3/19/2013 9:04:23 PM , Rating: 2
It's a watch band...to hold a nano....

Not even in the same realm....


RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/19/2013 9:06:04 PM , Rating: 2
Nope, the fossil still beat it by a mile.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/19/2013 9:49:18 PM , Rating: 2
How about 2003? Fossil was making smart watches 4 years before Apple when thought to copy the smartphone. Look up the Fossil smart watch running Palm OS.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By Milliamp on 3/19/2013 10:26:03 PM , Rating: 2
A valid point but the iPhone looked just like the LG Prada that came out before it too: http://i.imgur.com/zopVXnh.jpg

It was the same year the iPhone was released but it was still first and it was also a touch screen phone.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/19/2013 10:36:08 PM , Rating: 2
If your point is that Apple freely copies other companies products, then turns around and sues when they are copied themselves, I totally agree.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By Milliamp on 3/20/2013 2:42:31 AM , Rating: 2
yep, pretty much


RE: They would be stupid not to
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/20/2013 4:56:28 AM , Rating: 3
The LG Prada was revealed and released only weeks before the iPhone was. It also didn't have any of the functionality of the iPhone. The Prada was barely good as a feature phone.

Are you really saying that Apple copied LG, greatly improved upon it, and released it in only a few weeks time?


RE: They would be stupid not to
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/20/2013 5:00:34 AM , Rating: 2
Even Steve Jobs didn't claim to "invent" most of his product categories. It was always about execution. Most people here can't tell the difference between who invented something first and who executed it well enough that everyone else follows that execution.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/20/2013 8:22:10 AM , Rating: 2
Yet they still sue for things they copied themselves.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By KoolAidMan1 on 3/20/2013 5:42:43 PM , Rating: 2
So does everyone else, it's all about who files patents for technologies and execution.. Don't hate the player, hate the game, the system is pretty messed up.

Also remember that Apple offers licensing before going to court. I have a Lumia, wanna know why Apple isn't suing? Microsoft is licensing technologies from Apple, and Apple of course licenses things like ActiveSync from MS. Samsung went the other way and decided to go to court instead, while others like HTC eventually ended up licensing. It worked out well for Samsung though, their court costs and settlement are less than if they had done their own R&D on UI or licensed from Apple.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/20/2013 6:43:53 PM , Rating: 3
"Don't hate the player, hate the game"

I am perfectly fine hating both. In fact I am proud of it ;)


RE: They would be stupid not to
By Falacer on 3/19/2013 7:55:48 PM , Rating: 2
That won't stop Apple from suing the pants off of anyone who releases a Smart Watch after they do. Got to do something with that $170 billion of hard currency!


RE: They would be stupid not to
By xti on 3/20/2013 5:31:30 PM , Rating: 2
who cares who is first? let them both release so it drives them to make this the best product possible.

i personally wouldnt have one (i say that now) but competition is good..even if u hate apple, why wouldnt you want them to push?


RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/20/2013 5:40:00 PM , Rating: 2
I agree. I dont care who is first. I was responding to a mentally challenged person that thinks Samsung copied the idea from Apple even though Fossil has it on the market as a released product 10 years ago with PalmOS.

All companies copy others. No problem by me. If not for that, there would only be Ford making cars for example. Whoever can make the best product at the best price wins, period.


RE: They would be stupid not to
By arjunp2085 on 3/19/2013 4:34:41 PM , Rating: 2
IS it just me that finds such a product already in the market for 2 Years and a refresh of the product running android already in selling in the store

Sony Smart watch running android OS

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/products/accessories/...

Before any Apple zealots saying that apple invented it... Sony already has made it


RE: They would be stupid not to
By retrospooty on 3/19/2013 4:44:08 PM , Rating: 2
Too late, they already have.


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