quote: I'm not "in this with you". We're not part of some group together whereby we're seeking the same goals and have mutually agreed to make the same sacrifices. I'm investing in my future. Not yours. So yes, we should give up on a tool to benefit you at my expense.
quote: we mustn't forget that government officials are elected by the people.
quote: if the people's will was "helping the sick" then I would say that the act was altruistic
quote: Lastly, you completely reject that there are problems only a government can solve
quote: In the first half of your post, you're saying that as a condition of existence on this planet
quote: opt-in to would be agreeable to both of us. Perhaps that is the best compromise we can achieve.
quote: So you could live income and sales tax free with perhaps a small property tax (maybe)... although you would probably trade other freedoms in the effort to avoid the tyranny of taxes.. so yes, it's a choice.
quote: I could list some nastier places to live where you won't have to worry about any laws
quote: If that is oppression, then democracy is oppressive at it's very core.
quote: Your way might be better. It has never been tried before, who knows. It could also be a catastrophic failure (even worse than what we exist with now).
quote: I mean in regards to what types of government oppression directly affects you, not necessarily that the government or constitution conforms with your ideals.
quote: You have a vision of a country so different than any other in existence that, short of a revolution, you are unlikely to see it in your lifetime.
quote: Your way might be better. It has never been tried before, who knows.
quote: Democracy as it is, for all of its faults, has been an incredibly successful system. Never in human history has education, quality of life, art, science, or human rights ever flourished so greatly. [...] And this is why it is unfortunate for you, we have centuries of success under the current version of democracy.
quote: Even a veteran, PhD economist will say he doesn't fully understand the economy
quote: Anyway, stick for what you believe in, but remember, it's a belief, not fact.
quote: you apparently acknowledge no risk in such a radically different society
quote: Is life really that bad vs. living at another time (eg. Communism, feudal dictatorships, oligarchies, ect.).
quote: never going to see eye to eye
quote: These folks are committing to moving across the country and becoming political activists because they believe that strongly: http://freestateproject.org/
quote: I don't attribute the successes you've listed to democracies, but rather to free enterprise.
quote: And yet some people think politicians of all people, should be able to "control" it. Or influence it in the "right" way.
quote: Your attempt to discredit my opinions by casting them off as non-factual beliefs is pretty weak.
quote: What do we risk by being free, that we do not risk by being enslaved?
quote: Give it a few more years. When this house of cards collapses and the gov't either fails
quote: My point which I so ineloquently try to convey in my other posts are that there are problems/challenges that exist that effect us all (whether you choose to associate yourself with the rest of the human race or not), but these problems/challenges aren't readily solvable through the private sector.
quote: Absolutely not. I don't want the government ever deciding what industries are "highly important". I want governmental policies that encourage all commerce equally; I want a government that gets out of the way and influences as little as possible.
quote: who enjoy all the conveniences society, but want none of the sacrifice
quote: Because this sometimes happens through government programs, you can't rule out government involvement entirely