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Seagate looks forward to crossing the three billion threshold

Seagate has reached an impressive milestone today with the announcement that it has become the first hard drive maker to ship 2 billion HDDs. Seagate says that the impressive number has been fueled by significant demand for storage on mobile devices, for cloud infrastructures, social media companies, business applications, and a number of consumer markets.

Seagate says it took 29 years for it to reach 1 billion units shipped, but only four years to ship its second billion hard drives.


“This is truly an impressive accomplishment and I am proud to lead this company as we celebrate this success,” said Steve Luczo, president, CEO and chairman of Seagate. This achievement is a testament to the commitment of our employees whose relentless dedication and personal pride continue to be the fabric of this company.”

Digital content demand (driven by sites like YouTube) is one of the key areas that is constantly pushing the growth of the hard drive market. Seagate says that the demand for storage for user-generated content is expected to quadruple between 2013 and 2015. That means the next 1 billion drives is likely to come even faster than the four years it took Seagate to reach its second 1 billion drives shipped. 


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Two billion shipped... One billion DOA
By jarman on 3/12/2013 9:55:07 AM , Rating: 3
Seriously, as bad as Seagate's quality has been I'd be surprised if their defect rate was below 50%...

Why oh why did Samsung have to sell their HDD to Seagate... (sad face)




By jarman on 3/12/2013 9:56:32 AM , Rating: 2
"HDD business unit", that is...


RE: Two billion shipped... One billion DOA
By theapparition on 3/12/2013 10:19:58 AM , Rating: 2
Seagate has a mix of quality. The core Seagate drives aren't that bad, but it's very hard to tell them from the Maxtor series, which I'd guesstimate to have a 99% failure rate. Truly horrible drives.

It's not that hard to buy your way to this landmark either. Seagate has bought almost every HDD maker out there. Who else is left besides Western Digital and Toshiba?

But on the flip side, it does open the door to more SSD development.


RE: Two billion shipped... One billion DOA
By LRonaldHubbs on 3/12/2013 2:43:53 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Seagate has a mix of quality. The core Seagate drives aren't that bad, but it's very hard to tell them from the Maxtor series, which I'd guesstimate to have a 99% failure rate. Truly horrible drives.

YMMV.
I had great luck with Maxtor back in the ATA133 days. I've also had good luck with Seagate, Samsung, and WD. In fact, the only drives I've ever had die were a Quantum Fireball EX and a WD Green 2TB.


RE: Two billion shipped... One billion DOA
By Solandri on 3/12/2013 2:57:50 PM , Rating: 2
Storage Review has been running a HDD reliability survey for 15 years now. You need to submit a data point (make and model of your HDD, how long it's been working, or how long it worked until it died) before you can browse the database.
http://www.storagereview.com/php/survey/survey_mfr...

Unfortunately I don't remember my login so I can't see how up to date it is. But based on browsing it in previous years, there's actually very little correlation between manufacturer and reliability. The stronger correlation is actually with model and reliability. It seems the way a particular drive model is manufactured is what makes it a lemon or a tank.


By Souka on 3/12/2013 3:44:35 PM , Rating: 2
I had a bunch of death-star hitachi drives back in the day....big capacity (20GB, 40GB, 60GB), 7200rpm (which was fairly new), and great performance... except for when you turnd on the PC and heard... *click* *click* *click* *CLUNK* and repeat....

probably went through 6 drives at home... even to this day Hitachi drives makes me nervous despite not having a failure since.


By mindless1 on 3/13/2013 11:52:14 AM , Rating: 2
It could be that it's hard to tell because there haven't been any Maxtor designs in more years than the expected lifespan of a HDD.

Maxtors weren't all that bad though, with exception of their first-gen 7K2 RPM models.


RE: Two billion shipped... One billion DOA
By Samus on 3/12/2013 10:22:16 AM , Rating: 1
The majority of HDD DOA's are due to negligence in handling and shipping. You don't really think they leave the factory dead, do you? Have you seen the assembly plants? We're talking hermetically controlled cleanrooms with micron-precision manufacturing tolerances.

My advice is to stop ordering from Newegg. They haven't shipped hard disks correctly for years, although it seems to really be luck of the draw whether you get "Stoner Bob" or "Particular Pete" filling the pick ticket.

The evidence is in the statistics: retail drives have a lower end-user purchased failure rate than OEM drives. Retail drives are shipped in palets in well-insulated packaging, and OEM drives are shipped in a styrofoam mold, picked, tossed in a box with some paper and peanuts, boxed up, and shipped a thousand miles in industry-uncertified packing. Go figure.


RE: Two billion shipped... One billion DOA
By Argon18 on 3/12/2013 7:38:24 PM , Rating: 2
Precisely. There is no modern hard drive manufacturer that is more or less reliable than any other. The difference is in how they're handled after they leave the factory. Did the UPS guy play soccer with the box? If so, your drive will probably arrive DOA. All HDD manufacturers put the drives through a full sector read/write test and burn in before it leaves the factory. They don't ship DOA drives.


RE: Two billion shipped... One billion DOA
By Reclaimer77 on 3/12/2013 7:58:41 PM , Rating: 2
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They don't ship DOA drives.


Uh BS?

It takes a LOT of G's to brick a hard drive. Unless the box is completely smashed to sh#t, I don't think so.

Quality Control ain't what it used to be. If you believe nothing can leave the factory DOA, you're smoking drugs. No offense.


By mindless1 on 3/13/2013 11:53:31 AM , Rating: 2
Not BS, every drive is tested to confirm it works. Manufacturer handling is meticulous, leaving either shipping, merchant handling, or most often, user inflicted damage.


By Sivar on 3/12/2013 11:12:53 AM , Rating: 2
If you have the opportunity to look at return rate statistics, or failure rate statistics at large corporations, Seagate doesn't do badly. Actually, only Samsung does/did consistently better, which is ironic considering the quality of their TVs and phones.

- No matter the HD manufacturer, you can always find horror stories of how someone had 9 of the last 10 drives from that maker fail.

- HDD manufacturers tend to go through phases. For example, IBM was once the top maker of reliable drives, then the 75GXP happened.

- Seagate is by far the largest HDD company, so you are likely to hear more failure stories. No one excitedly posts when their drive has worked fine for 8 years.

That said, Jarman, I miss Samsung too.


By dgingerich on 3/12/2013 11:33:29 AM , Rating: 3
I've helped considerably with that 2 billion recently. I currently have a 500GB drive, 7 1TB drives, 4 2TB drives, and a 3TB drive, all made by Seagate, and only one defective one in that bunch.

I'm also an admin in a server storage software test lab. We have about 2/3 Seagate drives. (Probably close to 8000 Seagate drives, ~12,000 drives total.) Although these are Enterprise class drives, so they probably don't correlate to desktop drive reliability, Seagate has been, documentably, the most reliable manufacturer. Toshiba is the worst, by a factor of 8, with their 146GB 2.5" drives failing at a rate 12 times that of Seagate's. We have switched to entirely Seagate drives in our products mostly because of that, but also a few other factors.

Seriously, Seagate's history of unreliable drives is just that: history. They don't have the reliability problems they used to. It's time to let go of the past.


RE: Two billion shipped... One billion DOA
By hpglow on 3/12/2013 11:50:59 AM , Rating: 1
I have never had any issues with their drives. Over the last 10 years I have purchased several WDs, Seagates, one Maxtor, and one Hitachi. Of all the drives I have purchased for PC and server use only one drive has failed and it was a WD.

Maybe I'm just lucky? I doubt it though. I think people just hold a grudge when a bad drive looses a bunch of data or causes them pain at work. Every computer user should have a reasonable backup plan if their data is of any value to them.


By marvdmartian on 3/12/2013 3:51:25 PM , Rating: 2
The weird thing with my experience, is that while I've had incredible luck with Seagate internal drives, it's their external units that have plagued me with bad luck.

On the other hand, I've had nothing but good luck with Western Digital drives, both internal and external.


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