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Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher are back

For those of you who shuddered at the thought of Disney buying Lucasfilm Ltd. and releasing a new (potentially terrible) trilogy in a couple of years, here's a bit of news that may ease the pain: the original Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker and Han Solo may be back.

George Lucas, the creator of the "Star Wars" trilogies, slipped in a Bloomberg BusinessWeek interview that Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford (the original Princess Leia, Luke Skywalker and Han Solo in Episodes IV-VI) will resume their roles in the upcoming trilogy made by Disney.

"We had already signed Mark and Carrie and Harrison -- or we were pretty much in final stages of negotiation," said Lucas. "So I called them to say, 'Look, this is what's going on.'"

Lucas stopped a moment in the interview, realizing he probably wasn't supposed to unveil that detail quiet yet.

“Maybe I’m not supposed to say that," continued Lucas. "I think they want to announce that with some big whoop-de-do, but we were negotiating with them.

"I won’t say whether the negotiations were successful or not.”

Nice save, Lucas.


The Walt Disney Company acquired Lucasfilm Ltd. (Lucas' film production company) for $4.05 billion USD in late October 2012.

Along with that acquisition came news of a new trilogy, which would be Episodes VII, VIII, and IX. The new trilogy will follow Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia and Han Solo once again beyond "Return of the Jedi," which was Episode VI in the original trilogy.

Episode VII is set to release in 2015.

Another cool factoid about the upcoming Episode VII? It will be directed by J.J. Abrams.

Die-hard "Star Wars" fans accused Lucas of losing his mind over the last decade or so when he created the second trilogy (Episodes I-III) with ridiculous characters like Jar Jar Binks. He also made huge changes to the Blu-ray release of "Star Wars," where Lucas only wanted to keep 25-30 percent of the original theatrical content. The nine-disc set contained new “content” like Darth Vader screaming "Nooo!" in the final battle scene of Episode VI.

Of course, we can't forget a very crucial mistake Lucas made in changing Episode IV: A New Hope -- Han shot first.

Source: Businessweek



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RE: The pain is worse
By bodar on 3/8/2013 8:37:50 PM , Rating: 2
I guess I just believe that explaining a mechanism behind who can use the Force and who cannot, really doesn't change the fact that there's still a mystical energy field spanning the entire galaxy and people have learned to harness it through meditation and other mental and physical exercises in ways that have nothing to do with science. That's not cool enough? It's not like there's a Force pill or a Jedi implant package.

I guess anything is more interesting if you can apply your own interpretation to it. I just don't see why it's such a deal-breaker for people.


RE: The pain is worse
By Reclaimer77 on 3/8/2013 9:29:07 PM , Rating: 3
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I just don't see why it's such a deal-breaker for people.


Because you don't want to listen. There have been many many attempts to explain why adding Midichlorians was a stupid thing to do. If you don't want to hear the other side, then what's the point?

If there was a payoff later on in the story, at least I could understand it. However it never came back into the storyline at all later for a big payoff. But it was haphazardly thrown in, almost like a point of exposition for the audience. Except I don't know ANYONE who watched the original trilogy and actually needed an explanation of what the Force was and how people used it.

I think it's pretty obvious that, despite his "mediclorian" count, Luke Skywalker would have NEVER used the Force or became a Jedi had he not met Ben Kenobi and made a choice to fulfill his destiny. And THAT'S what makes the storytelling so superior to the prequels!

Here let me give you a visual aid to try and explain how "Mediclorians" change the ENTIRE subtext of the story arc

Original:
Luke: "You know, I did feel something. I could almost see the remote."
Obi-Wan: "That's good. You have taken your first step into a larger world."

After Medichlorians:
Luke: "You know, I did feel something. I could almost see the remote."
Obi-Wan: "That's good. You must have a high enough Medichlorian count to channel the Force. Sorry if you thought you were special, but it's simple biology."


RE: The pain is worse
By Fritzr on 3/8/13, Rating: 0
RE: The pain is worse
By Reclaimer77 on 3/9/2013 8:21:25 AM , Rating: 3
Stop. Stop with this need to be an apologist and explain away the stupidity of adding Midichlorians to the Star Wars mythos. I simply will not entertain these thoughts.

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To be "strong" in the force requires that the biological be strong. Faith is not enough...you must also have ability.


Siiigh, and this right here RUINS The Force and Jedi. This goes against everything we learned in the original movies. Physical ability? Strong biology?

"Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmm? Hmm. And well you should not."
-Yoda-

Of course the prequels ruin Yoda as well by having him light saber fight and do combat with people stronger and physically superior to him, when he should be ABOVE those things entirely. But I digress.


RE: The pain is worse
By FaaR on 3/9/2013 3:03:49 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
If there was a payoff later on in the story, at least I could understand it. However it never came back into the storyline at all later for a big payoff. But it was haphazardly thrown in, almost like a point of exposition for the audience.

The only point of midichlorians appear to be to somehow help explain how a six-year-old kid can be a renaissance man at basically everything. Oh, and also establish that the old republic was more scientifically developed and advanced than the empire that followed, having discovered what the force is and how it works. I suspect that's why everything is shiny in the prequels (except on Tatooine), whereas in the original trilogy everything's worn and dirty; merely a device to try and show how corrupt the empire is. The "worn universe" of the old movies worked better though because that's how the real world looks. Walk through central London for example, the buildings are dirty as hell, statues are slowly crumbling, old masonry is chipped and cracked and so on.

...Of course there not being any real sets to speak of means everything is computer graphics, and making things dirty with computers is difficult, so that's another reason too.

Regardless of Lucas' reasons though, it was a bad idea to invent midichlorians. Heck, even episodes 5 and 6 backed away from the actual mysticist aspect of the force, maybe to "not create controversy" I dunno; remember that Tarkin says to Vader in A New Hope that he is all that remains of the jedi's religion . When was that ever expanded upon later - never. And Tarkin's obviously older than Vader, he was around when there still were jedi and a republic so he wouldn't have made such a nooby mistake, confusing the jedi order with a religious institution if that hadn't been the case. Yet Lucas dropped that aspect after the first movie - unfortunately, because it was mystical, and mysterious and thus cool.


RE: The pain is worse
By Reclaimer77 on 3/10/2013 5:07:43 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Regardless of Lucas' reasons though, it was a bad idea to invent midichlorians. Heck, even episodes 5 and 6 backed away from the actual mysticist aspect of the force, maybe to "not create controversy" I dunno


I guess. I think there was just a lot more story involved in the originals, and there wasn't time for all that nonsense.

Watching the Prequels, it feels like the viewer is being bombarded by hours of worthless filler of people sitting down doing nothing and discussing space taxes space politics space cloning space laws and really REALLY unconvincing space love. It's just SO goddamn boring and is one big plot convenience. It's painful to sit through.

I just cannot imagine how shitty the originals would be if half the scenes were THAT pointless, anemic and self-serving.

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...Of course there not being any real sets to speak of means everything is computer graphics, and making things dirty with computers is difficult, so that's another reason too.


Another reason why Prequels in the "modern style" shouldn't be done. I hate them. Take Prometheus for example. It's set years before the original Alien, but the sets and stylistic theme they went with looked about 300 years more advanced! It was more akin to Star Trek. They didn't even TRY to make it fit in the same Alien universe.

But we're just a big dumb audience, so we're supposed to be wowed and awed by the spectacle and presentation of it all. Not how freaking shallow and poorly done it was, like almost everything today.


RE: The pain is worse
By retrospooty on 3/11/2013 7:57:51 AM , Rating: 2
NERD FIGHT!

It's always fun to read through a thread you missed about a sci fi show/movie where people get all pissed off... LOL.

Really though, try not to take it all so seriously. It's supposed to be entertainment. Lucas had highs and lows. He was great at the overall story, the universe, the history, but he was just freegin aweful at the screenplay, script and details. It is what it is and its not going to change. I just hope Lucas' involvement in the new ones is limited to direction, history, and advice and NOT screenplay/script.


RE: The pain is worse
By FaaR on 3/11/2013 8:34:49 AM , Rating: 2
The ship in Prometheus was a top of the line corporate yacht type of dealie, no wonder it looks slick. The ship from Alien was a run-down freighter crewed by blue-collar worker dregs that had probably been steaming around the galaxy for decades. That's the least of the problems with that movie, there's other logic and plot holes you could easily sail an aircraft carrier through...


RE: The pain is worse
By Reclaimer77 on 3/11/2013 5:25:22 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
The ship in Prometheus was a top of the line corporate yacht type of dealie, no wonder it looks slick.


Dude in the original Aliens movies cockpit designs are more akin to WWII fighters. Their "displays" were small CRT monitors with monochrome text for god sakes.

In Prometheus we see holographic projector displays, 10 million color LCD's with multi-touch! I mean come on, that gigantic gap in features can't be explained away by saying "oh well that ship was a corporate yacht.

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That's the least of the problems with that movie


Well I agree but that wasn't the context of the discussion. I wasn't posting a Prometheus review, after all.


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