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No V8 for European Mustangs?

Any Mustang enthusiast is likely to have both fond and not so fond memories of previous generation Mustangs when a four-cylinder engine option was available. That anemic four-cylinder that hid under the hood of so many Fox body Mustangs over the years was enough to make enthusiasts cry.
 
However, Ford has made no apologies for moving the “global” 2015 Mustang to a new platform that will offer more efficient engines across the board -- the all-new Mustang will also ditch the live rear axle in favor of an independent rear suspension. We know that the muscular 5.0-liter V8 engine will soldier on in the United States. In addition, rumors continue to swirl that there will be an EcoBoost V-6 engine option available.


2013 Mustang GT

Word has now surfaced that while Europeans will be able to purchase the 2015 Ford Mustang with a turbocharged 2.3-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine. While Edmunds doesn't specify this fact, on a recent episode of the hit UK television show Top Gear the hosts said that only the four-cylinder engine would be available for European buyers.

Edmunds reports that the four-cylinder that will be under the hood of the Mustang in Europe will be based on the 2.0-liter engine featured in the 2013 Focus ST. In the Focus ST, the turbocharged four-cylinder produced 252 hp. In the Mustang, the 2.3-liter engine will produce around 300 hp according to company insiders.

Ford has remained quiet on pricing for the Mustang in Europe and the vehicle is expected to be a low-volume specialty car within Europe.

Source: Edmunds



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RE: Out with the new, in with the old.
By FITCamaro on 3/7/2013 1:45:04 PM , Rating: 2
Bigger displacement = more torque and having to work a lot less hard to make the same power. You don't need as aggressive of cams which means better fuel economy as well.


By silverblue on 3/7/2013 2:25:09 PM , Rating: 2
Thank you to you both.


RE: Out with the new, in with the old.
By barturtle75 on 3/8/2013 11:24:57 AM , Rating: 2
However you still have the mechanical friction of 4 more cylinders dragging down fuel econ. Plus the weight of the engine. You burn more fuel at idle just to keep the engine turning over, burn more to move it off the line, burn more to roll it around place to place.

The weight is even more significant when Euro drivers tend to put more emphasis on handing. The big heavy lump of a V8 really screws handling when compared to a lighter 4 or 6.


By JediJeb on 3/8/2013 7:41:52 PM , Rating: 2
Some of that weight vs handling problem can be solved by moving the engine farther back to achieve better balance. If you look at the old AC Cobra in which Carol Shelby place a huge big block 427 cid V8, that car had awesome handling because he achieved nearly 50/50 front rear weight distribution.

Also all aluminum V8s are not so heavy when used in a car the size of a Mustang. I had a 99 Trans Am with the almunium LS6 and it was balanced and handled pretty well too.


By theapparition on 3/11/2013 2:21:18 PM , Rating: 2
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However you still have the mechanical friction of 4 more cylinders dragging down fuel econ.

Very correct. Even displacement on demand will require a bit of energy from friction. A V8 or V12 can never be as efficient as a 4 or 6 cyl engine. There will be extra pumping work and rotational inertia to deal with.

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Plus the weight of the engine......The weight is even more significant when Euro drivers tend to put more emphasis on handing. The big heavy lump of a V8 really screws handling when compared to a lighter 4 or 6.

Absolutely incorrect. The weight of a typical small block engine is less than most high power 4 cyl turbo designs. You have to consider the weight of the turbos and plumbing as well, not to mention that they are overly complicated.

Maybe someone should let Ferrari know that big lumps of V8s screw with handling. LOL.

V8s have their place for performance cars, and then complaining that a performance car doesn't get the same mileage as a Prius is ridiculous. Simply put, most V6 or I6 will never be able to get the performance that a typical V8 will.


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