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No V8 for European Mustangs?

Any Mustang enthusiast is likely to have both fond and not so fond memories of previous generation Mustangs when a four-cylinder engine option was available. That anemic four-cylinder that hid under the hood of so many Fox body Mustangs over the years was enough to make enthusiasts cry.
 
However, Ford has made no apologies for moving the “global” 2015 Mustang to a new platform that will offer more efficient engines across the board -- the all-new Mustang will also ditch the live rear axle in favor of an independent rear suspension. We know that the muscular 5.0-liter V8 engine will soldier on in the United States. In addition, rumors continue to swirl that there will be an EcoBoost V-6 engine option available.


2013 Mustang GT

Word has now surfaced that while Europeans will be able to purchase the 2015 Ford Mustang with a turbocharged 2.3-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine. While Edmunds doesn't specify this fact, on a recent episode of the hit UK television show Top Gear the hosts said that only the four-cylinder engine would be available for European buyers.

Edmunds reports that the four-cylinder that will be under the hood of the Mustang in Europe will be based on the 2.0-liter engine featured in the 2013 Focus ST. In the Focus ST, the turbocharged four-cylinder produced 252 hp. In the Mustang, the 2.3-liter engine will produce around 300 hp according to company insiders.

Ford has remained quiet on pricing for the Mustang in Europe and the vehicle is expected to be a low-volume specialty car within Europe.

Source: Edmunds



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RE: Out with the new, in with the old.
By HaB1971 on 3/7/2013 11:00:57 AM , Rating: 2
In the UK you are taxed (yearly road tax) on Carbon emissions


RE: Out with the new, in with the old.
By dubldwn on 3/7/2013 12:17:51 PM , Rating: 2
Yeah I just took a quick glance at this and it seems the key metric in Europe is CO2 emissions as it relates to car registration.


RE: Out with the new, in with the old.
By Dr of crap on 3/7/2013 12:30:30 PM , Rating: 2
OK, but...
The way I uderstand it is that European diesel engines can't be sold here because of tighter US emmision standards. So if they have a ton more diesels over there and their emmitting more from their engines I'm not getting it.


RE: Out with the new, in with the old.
By praeses on 3/7/2013 2:09:49 PM , Rating: 2
The diesel in the US is currently dirtier than in Europe so to compensate the same engine has to be fitted with more emission control systems, resulting in lower fuel economy. This becomes less desirable than the gas counterpart from the both the manufacturer's and buyer's point of view (higher cost, lower fuel economy) than in Europe.

It's the reverse of the low sulfur diesel of decades ago. The burden needs to be shifted back onto the refineries and off the automotive manufacturers again (which will drive up the cost of diesel slightly). It will happen, but will take time, and also yes, emission standards are measured against different metrics too.


RE: Out with the new, in with the old.
By e36Jeff on 3/7/2013 3:28:46 PM , Rating: 2
That is actually not true since about 2008. The max sulpher content (the main cause of pollutants in diesel) in US diesel is currently at 15ppm, in the EU, it is 50ppm. To be fair, it is mandated that there is 10ppm sulpher or lower diesel fuel avaliable in the EU, but their max allowable is higher.

As for the emmissions laws, again, the US is far stricter than the EU. NOx limits in the US are 0.05g per mile, in the EU they are 0.40g per mile, or 8x higher than the US regulations.

Up until fairly recently, you were correct on all accounts, the US regulations were far more lax than the EU regs, but the US has taken massive steps in curbing emmissions from Diesel engines over the last 5 years.


By Spuke on 3/7/2013 4:34:02 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
That is actually not true since about 2008.
Thanks much for this info. Good stuff.


By praeses on 3/8/2013 12:02:03 AM , Rating: 2
Good to know, and I'm definitely behind the times.

Thanks.


By JediJeb on 3/8/2013 7:49:19 PM , Rating: 2
The very low sulfur in US diesel was one reason that many Euro car companies halted US sales for a few years because there was some kind of problem with them running of diesel with such a low sulfur content. Not sure if it was emissions or engine damage though but it caused the owner at my work to have to wait a year for her new diesel Mercedes a few years ago.


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