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Angry outburst against frienemy was met with much criticism

Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) and Google Inc. (GOOG) have an interesting relationship.  On the one hand Microsoft languishes with small market shares in the search and smartphone markets, dreaming of being Google.  It's actively sued Google over smartphone patents, and has milked billions in licensing settlements from Android phonemakers.  It's also pushed for tough antitrust actions against Google.  On the other hand, Google still relies on Microsoft Windows for much of its ad revenue, an awkward relationship.

The frienemy's relationship devolved somewhat when Microsoft launched a nasty attack on its search rival accusing Google of "Scroogling" customers.  The ads take issue with Google's scanning of Gmail emails for behavioral marketing, and also tactics involved with Google Shopping.

But this week Microsoft Senior Online Services Director Stefan Weitz told public radio and TV station KQED that the ad campaign "is about finished".  The website and catchphrase will remain active, but the print, web, and television ads will die off.

The online services executive revealed that Microsoft hatched the campaign after a Roper Center for Public Opinion Research (at the University of Connecticut) revealed that people were unaware of the extent of Google's online behavioral monitoring including "reading" (anonymously) emails in Gmail.

He effectively admits, though, that the campaign did not have a major impact, commenting that using Google search is "a habit... it's like smoking. It's hard to get folks to stop doing it."

Here's a few of Microsoft's "Scroogled" ads:




Some of our readers responded positively to the campaign.  Echoing Mr. Weitz's comments tayb writes:

This campaign is not going to convince me to stop using gmail but I do hope it convinces google to stop scanning my emails. I do consider this an invasion of privacy even if I use adblock and never see the ads.

Others were quite upset at Microsoft.  Reclaimer77 writes:

Microsoft is grasping at straws here in this pathetic attempt. Bing is hemorrhaging money to the tune of $1+ billion a year, and they have NO answer to Google's services.

I use a Gmail account and I'm hard pressed to see how my privacy is at stake. I never get spam mails, Gmail has one of the best spam filters I've ever seen. And I never have targeted adds shoved down my throat.

As usual they collect ANONYMOUS data that helps them make add revenue, so we can all enjoy their services free. I think that's a pretty good deal if you ask me.

Also Microsoft is being dishonest in the extreme. They do the exact same thing with their free Hotmail service! It's morally wrong to be this hypocritical in order to smear a competitor.

Ultimately extremely negative advertising campaigns -- including Scroogle can be effective (see "Get a Mac"), but also have the tendency to backfire.  A recent article by Adage discusses some recent consumer market attack ads and their relative successes.

Source: KQED



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RE: Reclaimer is wrong
By InsGadget on 3/5/2013 2:56:19 PM , Rating: 2
I never said Google's practice of targeting ads was wrong or evil. I merely pointed out that your contention that both MS and Google were doing exactly the same thing is wrong. I did not give an opinion on if either company's approach is right or wrong. Just that your facts were not true.

Once again, not giving an opinion here, just giving facts. If you want my opinion, I don't think this is a big deal. And MS does not "steer you to certain services". The services I mentioned are helpful things that both Google and MS provide.

"All email services scan your email. They do this routinely to provide such popular features as spam filtering, virus detection, search, spellchecking, forwarding, auto-responding, flagging urgent messages, converting incoming email into mobile phone text messages, automatic saving and sorting into folders, converting text URLs to clickable links, and reading messages to the blind."
https://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/en_GB/more....

Google provides these services as well as MS, but then they go the extra step of scanning the emails for targeted ads. Do I think this is wrong? Not necessarily. I use gmail and I've never had a problem with this practice.

I was merely saying that your quoted text in the article was wrong, and is wrong. You may think I'm splitting hairs and that may be annoying to you, but it annoys me when people throw "facts" around on the internet that aren't in fact true. I like truth, so I can make honest opinions that aren't biased.


RE: Reclaimer is wrong
By InsGadget on 3/5/2013 3:11:53 PM , Rating: 2
I would like to point that there is one practice of Google's that I'm not a fan of. Google allows online sellers to pay for a higher position for certain search terms in Google's Shopping service. Bing does not allow this, and I have noticed more helpful shopping searches as a result with Bing vs. Google.


RE: Reclaimer is wrong
By Reclaimer77 on 3/5/2013 6:07:02 PM , Rating: 2
Again, just to be clear, you're less interested in the context of this issue, and more about nitpicking for "factual" reasons. Which have no bearing on the actual conflict between Google and MS.

Reclaimer isn't "wrong", you've just moved the goalposts.

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I merely pointed out that your contention that both MS and Google were doing exactly the same thing is wrong.


Wrong. They ARE! They are both scanning your data to provide you with something, in order to make profits. I can't put it any more simply than that.

Get it or go away, either way I'm done with this semantic drivel.


RE: Reclaimer is wrong
By InsGadget on 3/5/2013 10:07:42 PM , Rating: 2
I care about facts. Sorry if that offends you.


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