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Google is not impressed

Google has no problem with telling it like it is. Yesterday, the Android maker said Motorola isn't creating good enough mobile products for its popular operating system.

Patrick Pichette, Google's chief financial officer and senior vice president, told an audience at the Morgan Stanley Technology Conference that Motorola isn't up to par with Google's expectations of a hardware maker.

"[Motorola's pipeline are] not really to the standards that what Google would say is wow -- innovative, transformative," said Pichette. "We've inherited 18 months of pipeline that we actually have to drain right now, while we're actually building the next wave of innovation and product lines."

So far, a few Motorola releases for Android include the Droid RAZR Maxx HD and the Droid RAZR M. While these phones aren't half bad, Google said customers want more.

Pichette also made mention that Google's relationship with Samsung, its No. 1 hardware maker, is "terrific" despite recent rumors. In fact, the Samsung Galaxy S IV with the Android operating system is due to be announced March 14.

Source: The Verge

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RE: just another
By Roffles on 3/2/2013 7:16:01 PM , Rating: 2
How does your comment get a 5? HTC, Sony, LG, Motorola, and Samsung all have customized UI's with LOTS of added functionality baked in on top of stock Android to give each phone its own unique experience. For example, on my Galaxy S3, Touchwiz places toggles at the top of the pull-down menu to enable/disable most of the phone's features. Touchwiz also has tons of of extra options all throughout the system settings (way too many to state in this comment box), it's own unique set of widgets, and many unique apps. These added customizations actually make it more feature packed than stock Android. The launcher alone doesn't represent all that there is to Touchwiz. You can replace that with a launcher app. I'm rooted and could choose from dozens of roms, but in the end I like the added functionality of Touchwiz while running Nova launcher. It's not the same as the other phones with similar hardware specs.

Your comment makes me think you either don't know how to use an Android phone or that you have very limited experience using Android phones from different manufacturers.

RE: just another
By KiwiTT on 3/3/2013 11:38:13 PM , Rating: 2
No I don't know how to use an Android and did not want to, for the reasons I outlined.

I bought the iPhone 5 because I get support for 3+ years. Any Android I get (the much of a muchness comment), I'll get support for about 18 months at best. Virtually all Android phones, software support dries up, by either the Manufacturer or the Carrier.

Yes, I can put a custom-ROM in it, but that is likely to invalidate any warranty or Consumer Guarantee Act coverage, as I have modified the phone to other than manufacturer supported specifications.

In addition, as this is my very first smartphone, I wanted something that would last me a while.

RE: just another
By retrospooty on 3/4/2013 7:38:35 AM , Rating: 2
(shh, no-one tell him that IOS updates are hardly "updates" and that it has barely changed at all since IOS2, and that IOS6 upgrade is meaningless and changes almost nothing except to remove a batter mapping software)

But seriously. Buy a phone for its features and what it does, not for what you think it will do 3 years from now. Apple's OS updates are extremely minor. IOS6 should really be called IOS 2.4

RE: just another
By KiwiTT on 3/4/2013 12:44:18 PM , Rating: 2
I learnt decades ago, an OS is only a means to manage programs (apps), not the be all and end all. But I also learnt it needs to be secure and stable, so I could really do what I want with my system; run my programs (apps).

As for iOS being 2.4 instead of 6, you could say the same of Windows. There is negligible difference interface-wise, between Windows 95 and Windows 7, but a helluva lot has changed under the interface, to make it more secure and stable.

RE: just another
By Roffles on 3/4/2013 3:15:48 PM , Rating: 2
so you are admittedly ignorant to the functionally of Android devices so any reason you "outline" carries no weight, yet you talk about the iPhone 5 as if it were something special. you chose poorly for your first smartphone and that's all there is to it. i would go into more detail about why you chose poorly but you are intentionally ignorant to the android brand so i would be wasting my time. the iPhone 5, in terms of functionality (both software and hardware) is absolutely inferior to the android flagships.

now that i think about it, all apple users i come across are intentionally ignorant to the other brands, so i guess that makes you the perfect sucker to overspend on boutique electronics that lack functionality.

RE: just another
By retrospooty on 3/4/2013 8:03:49 PM , Rating: 2
"so you are admittedly ignorant to the functionally of Android devices so any reason you "outline" carries no weight, yet you talk about the iPhone 5 as if it were something special. "

Damn good marketing Apple has doesnt it. You dont actually have to "be" better, just have to convince those that dont want to take the time to learn facts.

I disagree with you on one thing though. The iPhone is a good starter smartphone. Like a training bra. Someday when he's old enough he can get a better product.

RE: just another
By KiwiTT on 3/4/2013 10:54:43 PM , Rating: 2
I think you don't know me at all. I'll give a bit of a background to my decision making process.

After a 30 year IT career, including managing and introducing new systems I am especially cautious about what I introduce to my life. I am certainly not a bleeding-edge person like I was in my younger days where I enjoyed having my PDA to stay organised in the 1990s. However, what 30+ years in IT has taught me is that careful consideration and planning is required to chose to implement any IT systems into what you do. And it is not simply a Features versus Features comparison that any person can, but a full assessment of the overall requirement, longevity and reliability.

It is in this light that I selected what I believe is the best 'smart-phone', all things considered.

The iPhone was the very first 'smart-phone' that was a real game changer. The ones before that, like the Palm, Windows, Blackberry were essentially quirky feature phones. Then a few year later came Android. Here was an OS and Hardware system that was open and infinitely customisable. Each generation the OS got better especially after 2.3x (and now upto 4.1x).

HTC was effectively leading with their regular 'Halo' phones in the first stages of the 'Android' revolution. Samsung and Sony came along a bit later. Samsung then took the baton and raced ahead of all competitors with their Galaxy Series phones leading to their ultimate Galaxy S3 and monstrous Note/Note 2. Meanwhile Apple was effectively getting left behind as it simply evolved slowly but stayed essentially the same.

The features of the Android phones are phenomenal. Large screens, great resolutions, quad-core CPUs, expandable memory, great cameras, etc. Integration with google apps are seamless and their customisation options endless.

Nevertheless they had a flaw. Poor long-term manufacturer support. When you buy an Android phone, it is generally a few point releases behind the latest OS release. You then have to wait for the manufacturer to release a patch to upgrade to the next release. In addition, you then need to wait for the manufacturer's release to be approved and possibly tweaked by the carrier you use. This often means you can be many releases behind for security fixes if you stay on the Manufacturer/Carrier release cycle. (NOTE: You can bypass all this by patching your phone directly via the many tools available). In addition manufacturer support for the phone generally stops after about 18 months of a phone being released.

Apple on the other hand, while it simply evolves, its updates are sent directly to the phone, without requiring any carrier or manufacturer steps. This means you are effectively on the latest release much faster. This is especially important as 'hackers' are now targeting 'smart-phones', directly. In addition Apple generally supports its phones for at least 3-4 years.

I intend to use my phone for at a minimum of 3-4 years and want to have the most up to date security on it at all times.

It may seem like a lot of money to spend on a phone, but as I had a few thousand sitting in what I call my "Fun Account", for me to buy toys with, which I hadn't touched for about 3-4 years, I thought "Why not? What harm can it do to finally enter the 'smart-phone' age and see what everyone are talking about".

Time will tell whether I made a 'good' decision, but as my family all use iPhones and my part-time work releasing an iPhone app soon, it seems it will be OK.

Incidentally, I did not really made use of all the features of my previous phone.

“And I don't know why [Apple is] acting like it’s superior. I don't even get it. What are they trying to say?” -- Bill Gates on the Mac ads
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