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Google is not impressed

Google has no problem with telling it like it is. Yesterday, the Android maker said Motorola isn't creating good enough mobile products for its popular operating system.

Patrick Pichette, Google's chief financial officer and senior vice president, told an audience at the Morgan Stanley Technology Conference that Motorola isn't up to par with Google's expectations of a hardware maker.

"[Motorola's pipeline are] not really to the standards that what Google would say is wow -- innovative, transformative," said Pichette. "We've inherited 18 months of pipeline that we actually have to drain right now, while we're actually building the next wave of innovation and product lines."

So far, a few Motorola releases for Android include the Droid RAZR Maxx HD and the Droid RAZR M. While these phones aren't half bad, Google said customers want more.

Pichette also made mention that Google's relationship with Samsung, its No. 1 hardware maker, is "terrific" despite recent rumors. In fact, the Samsung Galaxy S IV with the Android operating system is due to be announced March 14.

Source: The Verge

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RE: just another
By GulWestfale on 3/1/2013 4:11:48 PM , Rating: 2
with android you do have a choice of sizes, cpu spec, and battery sizes. with apple you get none of that. what you did is choose a mid-range phone with outdated features and an outdated OS, but paid a premium price for it.

RE: just another
By TakinYourPoints on 3/1/2013 10:35:49 PM , Rating: 2
With iOS you have one choice but it is hardly low end. The iPhone 5 has among fastest hardware, one of the highest quality screens (HTC also does very well), and excellent battery life (double the wifi and LTE browse time of a GS3). All this combined with stability, OS updates, and the best third party developer support out there.

You have fewer choices with iOS, certainly, but its all in the high end. Android gives you lots more choices in the mid-range and low end, and of course they give you choices with giant phones and phablets.

RE: just another
By cruisin3style on 3/2/2013 4:57:11 PM , Rating: 2
Battery life is very dependant on the time the screen is on with large screened phones. I have the verizon galaxy nexus and the screen is ALWAYS the largest battery user, often using at least 50% of it according to the battery use statistics.

I'm not surprised if the 4" iphone5 has something like double the 4.8" galaxy s3's browsing battery life...the 4.8" screen gives the gs3 44% larger screen area

RE: just another
By markt902 on 3/2/2013 6:47:34 PM , Rating: 2
The AMOLED panels in the GS3, and Galaxy Nexus consume a lot of power, especially when you need to view anything that's white. LCD panels are a lot more energy efficient, but the viewing angles and black levels, compared to AMOLED, are very poor. I have a Galaxy Nexus, US SGS3, HTC One X, iPhone 4s, and a Nexus 4 in my possession right now. When I'm using inverted applications on my GS3, or Galaxy Nexus, the screen time is a lot better. I can achieve about 4 hours of screen time with my GS3, while on WiFi, and about 6.5 hours of screen time on my Nexus 4 (WiFi only.)

Regardless of what "objective" display reviews say, I still prefer AMOLED panels. You simply cannot beat the viewing angles, and black levels. The black levels on my Nexus 4 are among the best on any LCD, but the viewing angles just aren't up to par. I'm using Franco kernel on my Nexus 4 with calibrated gamma settings, and the display is extremely sharp, and accurate, but the viewing angles, and black levels are just disappointing. The same applies with the iPhone 5. I'd really like to see an objective analysis between the iPhone 5, and a calibrated Nexus 4 display. There is a guy on XDA who says his personally calibrated Nexus 4 is the most color accurate display in a smart phone. I'm using his gamma settings, and can agree that the colors are amazing.

Anyway, I've been spoiled by AMOLED blacks, and honestly I don't mind the battery hit. I really hope the SGS4 ends up having an AMOLED panel.

RE: just another
By TakinYourPoints on 3/4/2013 9:26:34 AM , Rating: 1
I really hope the SGS4 ends up having an AMOLED panel.

Add good color calibration and good text rendering to that list. The GS3 has a surprisingly bad display, especially for a device as expensive as it is. It doesn't surprise me why Google went to LG instead of Samsung for the Nexus 4.

RE: just another
By rocketbuddha on 3/4/2013 1:03:04 PM , Rating: 2
I too was not wowed by the SAMOLED display in the SIII. One of my colleagues bought the Verizon S3 just as VZ did away with un-limited data plan for upgrades. It did not even stick out on the eyes when compared to the SLCD2 in the One X series.

I had assumed that it is more due to the Pentile nature vs. RGB rather than AMOLED vs. LCD. I thought GN-II which had both SAMOLED and RGB would be more pleasing on eyes.

RE: just another
By TakinYourPoints on 3/4/2013 9:36:39 AM , Rating: 2
Battery life is very dependant on the time the screen is on with large screened phones.

Except that the tests I mentioned specifically have to do with LTE and wifi browse time. The GS3 did fine in other tests like talk time and video playback.

It has to do with the iPhone 5 using newer and much more power efficient 28nm Qualcomm LTE chips. Very simple. Had the iPhone 4S gotten LTE then you'd be seeing a similar 4 hour battery life instead for 8. That would have been a huge downgrade in battery life from the prior iPhone, so they waited until the tech got better.

Control of the entire hardware/software stack also has a lot to do with it. You can optimize the hell out of everything when you have complete control over the OS and the SoC.

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