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If you ever needed a reason to strive for higher education or winning the lottery, the McLaren P1 is it. McLaren Automotive has gone official offering up all the details on its latest supercar, and the beast is impressive. McLaren promises that the P1 will hit 186 mph in less than 17 seconds, making it 23% faster than the legendary F1. The car has an electronically limited top speed of "only" 217 mph.
 
The automaker also notes that the production version of the P1 is virtually unchanged from the original design study. As you can imagine with any supercar, this beast is exceptionally far from affordable. McLaren says pricing will start at £866,000.


We have already talked a bit about the P1 in the past so you should already know that the car has a 3.8-liter twin-turbo V8 and the electric motor/battery system for a combined for 903 BHP. The Instant Power Assist System is a race-inspired technology that adds an additional power to help acceleration allowing the P1 to reach 62 mph in under 3 seconds. The car will eclipse 124 mph in less than 7 seconds. McLaren says that in electric-only mode, the vehicle can operate up to 30 mph with a range of 12 miles.
 
McLaren also promises that the P1 has the suspension and braking capability for the racetrack with braking performance on par with a GT3 sports racing car.
 

McLaren notes that it will only produce 375 of these vehicles to keep them rare. There are a number of color and trim alternatives that the customer can choose from including visible carbon fiber in the cabin. McLaren also points out that the car is completely customizable (depending on how big your wallet is) via McLaren Special Operations.

Source: McLaren



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not for retards
By Shadowmaster625 on 2/26/2013 10:14:54 AM , Rating: -1
If the reader doesnt know that 100Km/h is 60 mph, then they shouldnt even be reading the artcile. They're obviously too dumb to ever hope to own or even drive one of these things.




RE: not for retards
By Nortel on 2/26/13, Rating: 0
RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/26/13, Rating: 0
RE: not for retards
By Nortel on 2/26/13, Rating: -1
RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/26/2013 11:07:18 AM , Rating: 1
quote:
The USA is unwilling to admit the imperial system is inferior.


No I just don't think it's really an issue. At all, at ALL. Seriously I was just having fun with the thing, but in all honesty, I think this is one of the all-time lamest topics.


RE: not for retards
By Amiga500 on 2/26/2013 1:58:17 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
No I just don't think it's really an issue. At all, at ALL


I know I usually disagree with you (half the time to wind you up), but this time I really do disagree.

If you are working with complex equations, the last thing you want to have to do is work with units that were designed for an age long before the scientific method.

I dunno how the folks at Bombardier or Boeing manage - its driving me nuts right now. Fekkin granda units. Grrr.


RE: not for retards
By tng on 2/26/2013 2:59:33 PM , Rating: 2
I like the metric system for everything but temperature. Measurements in Celsius, have to be run into at least one decimal place to get the resolution that Fahrenheit has with none.

I never got how people could look at a wrench and visualize 5/32 without doing the math to convert it to a tenths of an inch figure. However I can look at something and size up 3mm or 5mm easily, no division needed. Maybe I am just lazy.


RE: not for retards
By topkill on 2/26/2013 5:34:59 PM , Rating: 3
That is SO true. I'm an engineer so I really like using metrics and I HATE all the conversions back and forth for no reason. But I simply do not understand why we don't talk "centi-centigrade" LOL At least that granularity would be helpful.


RE: not for retards
By Chernobyl68 on 2/26/2013 6:41:37 PM , Rating: 2
Its been tried more than once in the USA. There's just never an incentive for private industry to go through the expense of switching over.


RE: not for retards
By JKflipflop98 on 2/26/2013 9:27:56 PM , Rating: 2
The main reason companies overseas don't want to buy our machinery is because of this. It's why a lot of our potential exports are squandered and other countries consider our machinery to be "inferior".

If you buy an American machine that uses all imperial sizes and something breaks, now you have to order parts from overseas that cost you time and money - instead of going across the street and buying a comparable metric part. If America switched over to metric, our exports would soar shortly after.

But I digress, I like muh feet n' inches n' gallons and ain't nobody never gunna take em away.


RE: not for retards
By maugrimtr on 2/27/2013 11:09:10 AM , Rating: 2
Imperial is utterly alien to most of the planet's population. It's commonly used places like Ireland/UK however for basic measurements like a person's weight (in Stones) and height (in Feet), and distance (in Miles). Mostly due to common-use tradition. Outside of those few exceptions, Imperial measures are just seen as a US obsession to be "exceptional", i.e. insane and too stubborn for our own good ;).


RE: not for retards
By Amiga500 on 2/26/2013 6:42:34 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Measurements in Celsius, have to be run into at least one decimal place to get the resolution that Fahrenheit has with none.


Decimals have never been something that I've been concerned about to be honest - all calcs are pretty much done on the computer now, so operating to 10 decimal places is no biggie.

Besides, its Rankine and Kelvin ye should be using! ;-)


RE: not for retards
By modus2 on 2/27/2013 9:48:04 AM , Rating: 2
http://www.wired.com/thisdayintech/2010/11/1110mar...

This is a rather famous example of why its a bad idea to have two separate systems...


RE: not for retards
By RufusM on 2/26/2013 11:07:28 AM , Rating: 5
Yes, for Christ's sake, let's have the US move to the Metric system already. This isn't the Dark Ages anymore.

I don't need to know how many rods are in a furlong or try to figure out if you mean ounces in volume or ounces in weight.


RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/26/13, Rating: -1
RE: not for retards
By RufusM on 2/26/2013 11:26:14 AM , Rating: 2
No I don't use my brain at all. :P

Really though, with the globalization of everything, it's just one more language barrier. We still need standard and metric tools. The list goes on and on. Jimmy Carter just didn't have the wherewithal to sell it to the American people back in the 70s.

Carter - "What's that, a new-fangled measuring stick? I'm fixin' to think that folks don't need that 'round these parts."


RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/26/13, Rating: -1
RE: not for retards
By Nortel on 2/26/2013 12:10:12 PM , Rating: 4
quote:
Fuck the rest of the world. /shrug We're the last "Superpower" anyway, at least for now, shouldn't they be doing things OUR way? Hell most of them never even made it to "Superpower" level yet! Why should WE change?


They should teach suicide in american schools if this is the result of the USA education system.


RE: not for retards
By RufusM on 2/26/2013 12:32:39 PM , Rating: 2
Well I didn't know it was because all of those lazy layabouts in the rest of world don't have nukes. Why don't they all get off their lazy asses and make themselves some nukes. Then maybe we can get the metric system here. :)

Really, I do agree that there's much more important things than that in the US right now, but they're wasting time and money on much more frivolous things in the good ol' US Gub'ment so WTF, why not.

When we all drive over the fiscal cliff doing 200kmph we can do it knowing we're in a high-powered bus that's metric. That's gotta be worth something.


RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/26/2013 9:00:14 PM , Rating: 2
Nortel do you even lift?


RE: not for retards
By yomamafor1 on 2/26/2013 1:03:43 PM , Rating: 1
Its this kind of thinking that got America into the position it's in today.

Hey, wake up. US will no longer be a superpower. Time to take your head out of your ass.


RE: not for retards
By topkill on 2/26/2013 3:44:44 PM , Rating: 1
Nah, we'll always be a superpower because we LIKE spending a TRILLION DOLLARS A YEAR on our military....and then BITCHING ABOUT HOW MUCH WE PAY IN THE TAXES TO DO IT!

It's like a national sport for us.

LMAO!!!


RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/26/2013 3:45:51 PM , Rating: 1
Right America is where it is today because of measurement systems...

Dude shut up please lol.


RE: not for retards
By yomamafor1 on 2/27/2013 2:00:26 AM , Rating: 3
Pay attention to what I'm replying to.

quote:
Fuck the rest of the world. We're the last "Superpower" anyway, at least for now, shouldn't they be doing things OUR way? Hell most of them never even made it to "Superpower" level yet! Why should WE change?


Its this kind of mentality that's killing US. Because US has an abundance of natural resources, for some reason we get to dictate what the rest of the world should do. Worse yet, this superiority complex actually made us inferior by blinding us to better ideas.

Only 2~3 countries in the world, out of 108 countries, uses imperial system. Everyone else, including engineers and scientists, use metric system. Not only it makes a lot more sense, it is also exceedingly more convenient. But hey, this is 'MURICA! We're the superpower of the world, and everyone should follow us.


RE: not for retards
By FITCamaro on 2/26/2013 12:46:03 PM , Rating: 2
You just have to get enough women to support it.

Can you imagine how ecstatic they'd be to say "I only weigh 45 kilograms!" As opposed to 100 lbs. Lower numbers mean less right?

/average American thinking.


RE: not for retards
By piroroadkill on 2/27/2013 11:04:51 AM , Rating: 2
Not good for penises.. But good for TVs!


RE: not for retards
By Roffles on 2/26/2013 2:29:42 PM , Rating: 2
hey nortel, go ahead and pat yourself on the back for having an opinion. imperial distance measurements are not indicative of intelligence or inferiority. if anything, one could soundly argue that a greater intelligence is required to use imperial measurements (for pretty obvious reasons might i add).

adding to that, in building construction, 1/16" is more precise than 1mm as a physically measurable distance. so in construction, imperial is indeed superior for design accuracy. i've done design for metric and imperial building structures and metric leaves way more slop that you have to deal with during the setup process. to be frank, metric sucks for construction.

but you want to know the real truth? at the end of the day, either method of measurement works for its intended purpose and it's about what people are comfortable with. the only retard would be the person who is stupid enough to think one is better than the other. i guess that makes you the retard.


RE: not for retards
By Strunf on 2/27/2013 8:49:40 AM , Rating: 2
Are you stupid or stupid, if mm is not precise enough use um, if um are not enough use nm... now tell me how many inches is 1um ? I can easily say 22 microns now go ahead and tell the same measurement in inches... I would be damn surprise if I heard someone using the imperial system say 0.00086614in when speaking for instance of CPU process.

Anyways when doing CAD/CAO you use decimals NOT fractions, specially not when working with thing that require some precision.

Do you guys even realize that inches, feet and miles are all used to measure distances?...

The truth is that it's much easier to have one single unit for measuring distance than at least 3...


RE: not for retards
By Ammohunt on 2/26/2013 3:04:10 PM , Rating: 1
quote:
Celsius would be the most logical explanation. At 0 water freezes, 100 water boils.


At sea level and Not where i live.

Not sure what the issue is i use both systems when needed not a big deal. I can estimate distance in meters or yards convert pounds to kilos no need to prefer one system over the other...its because in America we are free to choose which system of measurement we want to use.


RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/26/2013 3:34:58 PM , Rating: 1
It's not an issue, it's just another nitpick anti-American people parrot.


RE: not for retards
By Nortel on 2/26/2013 8:11:12 PM , Rating: 1
The Fahrenheit scale is based on a completely stupid mixture of brine as seen here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fahrenheit#History

The point is having two systems is ludicrous. In America you are free to do many things, it doesn't have anything to do with making stupid decisions.


RE: not for retards
By Stuka on 2/26/2013 3:36:16 PM , Rating: 2
The ONLY reason US has not switched to metric is due to COST. We have more roadway than all of Europe. We have more equipment, more vehicles, more signs, more tools, more rulers, more measuring tape, etc., etc., etc., than all of Europe combined, with room to add in Australia and Russia, I would bet. All of that stuff would have to be replaced or retrofitted. We're probably talking in the realm of several 100s of billions of dollars, at least.


RE: not for retards
By e36Jeff on 2/27/2013 6:14:38 PM , Rating: 2
Since when do we not admit it? outside of the general population, all usage is in metric. NASA works in metric, the military works in metric. Almost the entire US government works in metric, only the general populace is still in imperial.

Imperial has a few minor advantages in that feet are an easier to work with size than meters, and dont have the huge gap you get in metric with cenitmeters to meters(yes I know the decimeter exists, but nobody uses it). And if you happen to have a foot that is close to an actual foot in length, it makes distance estimates really easy.

Having said that, I drive a German car, and having the tool sized in mm makes life way easier than when I help my roommate work on his Jeep, which is actually a hodge-podge of metric and Imperial.

Temperature is about the only thing that I feel that imperial does better than metric, at least for your average every-day person. 0F is really cold and 100F is really hot, 0C is sorta cold and at 100C you are dead. Since the primary usage of temperature measurements for normal people is the outside temp, Fahrenheit works way better, as 0-100F encompasses 90-95% of your day-to-day temps and provides far more granularity without the need for decimals.

For scientific usage, you should be using K, not F or C.


RE: not for retards
By FaaR on 2/26/2013 12:25:47 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
we're more "intelligent" because we've mastered a system that requires memorizing conversion tables and equations. All metric requires is moving a decimal point, how "stupid" is that?

The smarter alternative is of course the one that does not involve having to memorize conversion tables and equations. Since when was creating unnecessary work for yourself a definition of "smart"? It just creates room for more needless errors and mistakes (a certain Mars probe springs immediately to mind here for example.)


RE: not for retards
By jeffbui on 2/26/2013 1:23:00 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
we're more "intelligent" because we've mastered a system that requires memorizing conversion tables and equations.


I wouldn't say mastered. Maybe it's just me but I don't have those conversion tables memorized and I'm about to earn my MD.


RE: not for retards
By topkill on 2/26/2013 6:50:30 PM , Rating: 4
Reclaimer,
I can't tell you how much I disagree with you on this one. As an engineer (and a father with two daughters in college as engineers) and a businessman doing international business deals... I can't tell you how badly I want to dig up Ronald Reagan and CHOKE HIS DUMB ASS for stopping us when we were in the middle of the conversion.

I couldn't give a rat's ass about being on some perfect system JUST to change. But staying on the English avoirdupois system is not some matter of national pride. We didn't invent it, we got it from the English who abandoned it because it was so frigging useless. Why do we believe it's some sort of "American invention/treasure/matter of pride"??? It is just a way to measure shit. WHO. FUCKING. CARES.

I'm SO EFF'ing tired of converting back and forth and having to deal with a problem where some dumbass physics professor or a customer doesn't know how to specify it correctly.
Do you know how confusing it is when someone doesn't know whether they're referring to a pound of mass or a pound of force and they use them interchangeably?

Have you ever had to deal with a stupid system in slugs??? Why would anyone want to? Why not just put the damn thing in kg and Newtons and call it a day?

We slammed a frigging $125M satellite into Mars because someone got confused and forgot whether they were using km or miles.

Why have to keep around two sets of tools if you build things? Why buy a set of "english" and a set of metric tools?

I really do want to go back and choke Ronnie Baby for this one.


RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/26/2013 8:46:51 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It is just a way to measure shit. WHO. FUCKING. CARES.


I agree which is why I really hate this topic. The world is how it is, accept it and move on. It's not some travesty that we use a different measuring system. It worked just fine for hundreds of years, and will continue to.

Man you seem REALLY angry about this. Dig up Reagan and choke him? Come on, get a grip.

You realize nobody here on Daily Tech is in charge of making this change right? However I, like Reagan, am probably more concerned about the countries economic collapse than I am in making your life a little bit easier.

I cannot think of a more stupid waste of taxpayer money than the United States Metric Board. Reagan absolutely did the right thing. We should NOT have so many federal-level agencies. Like that goddamn stupid Federal Olympic Doping agency we have today. Persecuting Lance Armstrong in a crappy economy, way to have our priorities in order!

Can we just stop talking about this? God it's so stupid. WE HAVE WAY BIGGER PROBLEMS!


RE: not for retards
By topkill on 2/26/2013 9:17:59 PM , Rating: 1
Well, we can agree on one thing for sure: Anytime we spend money with our government getting involved in sports doping...what a total fucking travesty.

Ok, so Lance Armstrong is a douche bag. So Roger Clemens counts by stomping his hoof like Secretariet...WHO FUCKING CARES. With all the real problems we have to deal with, Congressional hearings? Are you kidding me??? GTFO


RE: not for retards
By Amiga500 on 2/27/2013 3:56:28 AM , Rating: 2
Way to completely miss the point reclaimer.

There are solid economic and technical reasons for making the change to metric, there is only dogma and pride as arguments for keeping the imperial system.

TopKill is clearly asking why are people so protective of the existing system when "it is just a way to measure shit". They are not talking about the insignificance of the change.


RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/27/2013 8:54:08 AM , Rating: 2
AHA maybe that's the key. If only we just switched to the metric system, we could eliminate this deficit in a matter of years.

It's not that I've missed the point it's just that I don't think it matters all that much.however I'm not an anal retentive person so perhaps I just don't see what the travesty is.

I suppose next we'll have to switch to driving on the left side of the road this driving on the right side of the road is just another crazy thing us stupid Americans do that the quote rest of the world doesn't end quote.


RE: not for retards
By NovoRei on 2/27/2013 7:30:33 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
It's not some travesty that we use a different measuring system. It worked just fine for hundreds of years, and will continue to.


1) The avoirdupois system (american) is confusing and prone to errors. Weight(lb)(kg*g), force(lb)(N), mass(lb)(kg) are different things with different meanings. Needless to mention how much money is lost each year for conversion errors and engineering time.

2) NIST(USA agency) has already regulated this matter and mandated that any USA legal document must use metric system and in the utmost impossible case must use (lbm) for mass and (lbf) for force, otherwise the document has no legal value.

3) This is a big issue downplayed by shortsighted individuals.


RE: not for retards
By Reclaimer77 on 2/28/2013 1:07:23 AM , Rating: 2
bla bla bla


RE: not for retards
By FITCamaro on 2/26/2013 12:43:49 PM , Rating: 3
They're obviously too dumb to spell "article" correctly apparently. Or at least see that they misspelled it and correct it.

It's also roughly 96.5 kph.

Not everyone cares about mph to kph conversions.


RE: not for retards
By FITCamaro on 2/26/2013 12:49:05 PM , Rating: 2
And let me state I have no problem with teaching kids metric instead of Imperial to get into a standard measurement system with the rest of the world. You just need to do it early enough. Start teaching kids in school now and you can eventually filter the rest of us out.


RE: not for retards
By BZDTemp on 2/26/2013 1:24:12 PM , Rating: 2
Actually 100 km/h is 62.14 mph :-)

It's just that when talking imperial it's easier to think of 60 rather than 62. So since the 186 mph also mentioned is 299.3 km/h I think it is safe to say the 60 mph are likely to actually be 62 mph.

No points are now given for guessing how quickly the car gets to 200 km/h.


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