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New console will reportedly let you use your smartphone as a remote control

Tonight Sony Corp. (TYO:6758) is expected to announce details about its much-anticipated successor to the PlayStation 3, code-named Orbis.  Launched in 2006, the PS3 has had a rocky road, generally being third in sales, behind Nintendo Comp., Ltd. (TYO:7974) and Microsoft Corp. (MSFT).  But the seventh generation console did succeed in pushing Sony's Blu-Ray technology as the next generation optical media of choice.

Ahead of the official announcements, Kotaku is reporting potentially leaked details of the eighth generation follow-up, which is expected to launch in time for the holidays this year.  The site writes:

Our source—the same reliable source who back in early 2012 told us the codename for Sony's next console and the codename for Microsoft's next console—tells us that there are two models planned for the new machine, and that pricing won't be announced until later this year, possibly around E3. The current plan, our source says, is to release them at $429 and $529, but that could change.

Those prices would be significantly cheaper than the PS3, which launched starting at $499 USD for a 20 GB console.

The console will reportedly get a new controller with a smaller touchpad in the center, and possibly a special button on the controller to share content.  The source also indicates that you'll be able to use your tablet or smartphone as a remote control/controller for the console.  And you'll be able to run client apps on popular tablets/smartphones to schedule games to download or to chat with your PlayStation Network buddies.

Playstation 4 Controller
The supposed "leaked" PS4 controller [Image Source: Kotaku]

The new PlayStation will locally network via Vita, and will feature a new service called PlayStation Eye (not to be confused with the Eye Toy) which allows you to watch streams of your friends' playing games (if they allow it).  PlayStation Plus will be replaced by PlayStation World; most of the networked services will be only available via this premium option (Microsoft is going a similar route with Xbox Live).

Are these details fact or fiction?  We likely will find out tonight.

Source: Kotaku

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By hpglow on 2/20/2013 2:43:13 PM , Rating: 1
Low end PC components for $430. True that they won't have the bloat of a PC OS so it will stretch farther but I can't see this as being quite cutting edge. Sony better have some cutting edge games and features in the works or I just can't see the consumer shelling out that amout of coin. I haven't priced a new PC together in a year or so but I think even if I had to buy a windows license a PC with simular components would cost less.

RE: Price?
By tng on 2/20/2013 3:53:37 PM , Rating: 3
Low end PC components for $430
To be fair, Sony has always followed the marketing idea of if you price it above what the competition sells for people will perceive it as "better". This used to work three decades ago when most of the time Sony was a better product. Apples attracts victims... eh..., customers this way now.

Now Sony products are really no better than most and they still cost more.

RE: Price?
By NellyFromMA on 2/20/2013 4:31:04 PM , Rating: 2
This gets said every time a console comes out. No one will buy it. Except, they do.

Then, prices go down.

Not new.

RE: Price?
By hpglow on 2/20/2013 4:47:39 PM , Rating: 2
Well yes there will be sales. But there is always a price point where they will sell more, and the further they deviate from that point the less will sell. The PS3 never really took off until you could get a new unit for around $300, the same thing with the launch price of the 3DS. My point is that the price is way out of line for what they are selling. I think Sony is trying on Nintendo's model of making money on the hardware and in Sony's case they don't innovate enough to make that work. The PS4 (or Orbis) should be sooting right for the Wii U's price point, go for the jugular, make it better and the same price. Sony delivers a standard controler + TV experience. My PS3 spends most of it's time playing Blu Ray and streaming off my media server. I don't think I will be spending that kind of money for just a media consumption device twice.

RE: Price?
By tng on 2/20/2013 4:58:06 PM , Rating: 3
To this day, I have only bought one ps3 game. Use it only for bluray

My PS3 spends most of it's time playing Blu Ray

Seems to be the same for allot of us. I also only use it for BD and the one game that I have has never been played.

RE: Price?
By nikon133 on 2/20/2013 5:14:29 PM , Rating: 2
Looking at some of the games running on PS3 - which, by all standards, is really old hardware (does anyone still have 7800GTX in their PC..?) - I am confident that exclusives (at least) will look great on PS4, regardless of hardware performance compared to high-end PC.

Having exactly one tightly defined configuration to develop for surely gives developers capability to optimize code to the max, something developing on PC cannot do with.

RE: Price?
By superflex on 2/21/2013 8:33:28 AM , Rating: 2
I still have a X800 GTO flash modded to a X800 PE in my desktop. No need to keep up with the Kardashians as it still works just fine.

RE: Price?
By tayb on 2/20/2013 7:12:27 PM , Rating: 2
Specs per Anandtech...
8-core AMD x86 CPU
~7850/7870 GPU
8GB GDDR5 memory

You couldn't even buy the parts alone for $430.

RE: Price?
By ChronoReverse on 2/20/2013 7:19:18 PM , Rating: 3
It's not unified memory but $430 can buy you a combo FX8120+7870+16GB of RAM. The CPU will be beefier than the A10 derivative in the PS4.

Obviously there's are much more than that to a PC so it'll cost more than the PS4 in the end but the PC will be a PC as well.

RE: Price?
By tallcool1 on 2/22/2013 12:33:35 PM , Rating: 2
Lets tally up actual cost comparison.
OS = ~$100
Case = $50-$150
Power Supply = $50-$100
Keyboard, Mouse = $30-$130
Blu-Ray drive = $50
Hard Drive = $60+

FX8120 = $160
7870 = $200
16GB DDR3 = $100

Total = $800-$1050

The cost is not even close, so people saying that they are overcharging for the PS3 hardware vs what you could buy/build are incorrect.

RE: Price?
By augiem on 2/26/2013 2:59:40 AM , Rating: 2
You didn't try very hard, did you?

Built at Newegg:
Total: $549.91

AMD FX4100 : $104.99
Radeon 7850: $159.99
8GB HyperX RAM: $44.99
Gigabyte Mobo: $54.99
1 TB HD - $74.99
Case: $19.99
575W PS: $24.99
LG BlueRay: $49.99
Mouse and Keyboard: $14.98
OS: Linux (free)

A couple of things. Your proc, FX8210 is a FAR faster processor than is in the PS4. You comparing it to an FX8210 because it's an 8-core proc is way off. Even the 4-core FX4100 I used is going to be way over the proc in the PS4.

Graphics card: I used a 7850 because the claimed speed is somewhat better than 7850 but not as high as a 7870.

OS: Linux is free. Steam is on linux. Once the SteamBox launches, a lot more games should be available. This discussion is about hardware so OS should not be factored in anyway.

Memory: Why did you put 16GB memory in your build? PS4 has 8 GB. My price for RAM is even quite high compared to what you see if you watch the sales. I see 8GB for $20-$30 quite often.

HD: 1TB. No clue what PS4 configurations will have.

The cost is not even close...

You're not making a fair comparison. Delete the keyboard, mouse, operating system, toss in a wireless controller. No mention has been made of the hard drive in the PS4, so that's not really comparable yet. Add to the fact that these are retail priced items in the system build and it's looking like the PS4 is kind of overpriced for what it is.

System 2: $558.87
2TB HD, Wireless controller, no Blueray.

AMD FX4100 : $104.99
Radeon 7850: $159.99
8GB HyperX RAM: $44.99
Gigabyte Mobo: $54.99
2 TB HD - $104.99
Case: $19.99
575W PS: $24.99
Microsoft Xbox 360 Wireless controller for Windows: $43.93 (Amazon)

This system is probably a more realistic competitor to the PS4 considering there's no real need for a Blueray to deliver the games for Windows/Linux. I slapped a 2TB HD in there and a wireless controller making this system something of a SteamBox. Some of these components could be had for less if you watch the sales. Again, these components already had the retailer's markup added.

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