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New Windows Phone update is also in store

Windows 8 sales have been mixed, with Microsoft Corp. (MSFT) seeing strong OEM support and moving a lot of licenses, but struggling in sales -- particularly among enthusiasts.  At the root of the controversy is the rich graphical GUI formerly known as "Metro", which today is referred to as Windows 8 UI.  

There've been unconfirmed rumors that a Windows 8 update code-named Windows Blue was in store for later this year or early next year.  Now those rumors have seemingingly been confirmed, and Microsoft has dropped an indication that it make respond to criticism and tweak the UI.

In a job posting, first noted by Charon at, Microsoft seeks an experienced software engineer, writing:

We’re looking for an excellent, experienced SDET to join the Core Experience team in Windows Sustained Engineering (WinSE). The Core Experience features are the centerpiece of the new Windows UI, representing most of what customers touch and see in the OS, including: the start screen; application lifecycle; windowing; and personalization. Windows Blue promises to build and improve upon these aspects of the OS, enhancing ease of use and the overall user experience on devices and PCs worldwide.

In a second post, Twitter user @h0x0d (Walking Cat on Twitter) notes a second post, pertaining to Windows Phone Blue:

Windows Phone Blue

Excel MX is expected to OneNote MX and Lynx MX as a touch-optimized offering available from the Windows Store.

ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley indicates Microsoft is gunning hard to try to deliver the UI and services overhaul by the end of this upcoming summer.  The refresh is expected to be the first cross platform push for Microsoft's new unified strategy; Windows 8, Windows Phone 8, Windows Server 2012, Hotmail, and SkyDrive will all receive similar makeovers.

Windows 8 UI critics shouldn't get too excited -- the new UI isn't expected to bring back the "Start" button, a perpetual criticism of the Windows 8 UI.

A major focus of the Blue update is to improve APIs to make it easier to design an app that works with only a few modifications, on both Windows 8 and Windows Phone.

Sources: Microsoft [1], [2 via Twitter]

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RE: Brace yourselves....
By SAN-Man on 2/18/2013 2:24:21 PM , Rating: 4
I actually use my PC to work every day. At this moment I have 17 windows open across three monitors. My quick launch menu has 15 applications in it. My star menu is used quite a bit. Pinning and grouping applications is pointless and slow. Metro is equally pointless and slow. My task menu has 10 applications currently listed. I use/click them all.

I have a lot going on in my job. I need a desktop environment which works for me. Metro just doesn't. I don't want to spend time hacking my corporate PC to make it function like Windows 7 does flawlessly. That's unacceptable.

Microsoft better recognize. I don't have time and don't care to be part of their Metro experiment or their attempt to break into the mobile market.

I'll stick with Windows 7 for the foreseeable future.

He Microsoft, want to get REAL scared? I'm a corporate user and have been since the 90s. I have Linux Mint 14 with Cinnamon running as a VM. I F*CKING LOVE IT. YOU HEAR ME? IT'S AWESOME. It's the best desktop environment I have used to actually work 8-10 hours a day (real work) outside of Windows 7. I could actually use it right now as a replacement and it's FREE. You better wake up MS.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By Ammohunt on 2/18/2013 2:51:52 PM , Rating: 3
In the past as a mixed system Windows/Unix/Linux SA i used Linux running Gnome to manage the entire enterprise environment its just way more efficient. In my current job my company issued Windows machine gathers dust while the real work gets done on Fedora/Gnome 3.0(which is an awesome UI) laptop. Point being there are much better alternatives to workstations in the enterprise than Windows and Microsoft would be smart to pay attention. At home i am still stuck with windows only for gaming.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By TakinYourPoints on 2/18/2013 6:23:24 PM , Rating: 3
Same, Windows is basically a Steam launcher for me at this point. There are several other superior options for desktop UIs.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By damianrobertjones on 2/19/2013 8:01:57 AM , Rating: 1
Other than Windows 7 or possibly XP I cannot think of even one other OS that is superior to Windows 8.

Not one. None. Zero.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By sguy on 2/18/2013 3:12:42 PM , Rating: 2
Honestly I'm tired of people complaining about the metro UI. you say that you have 10 applications in your start menu? great! post those ten applications in the metro UI! my point is that if you don't like the metro UI at worst its a glorified start menu. If that's all you want it to be that's all it is. Everything apart from that is better. Its faster, its more lightweight than even windows 7, its more secure, and if you think about the potential the metro UI is there to unify the PC, the tablet, and the phone. It makes sense! I use windows 8 and I spend probably ninety eight percent of my time in the desktop I don't miss the start at all.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By damianrobertjones on 2/18/2013 3:20:29 PM , Rating: 2
Exactly. I'm the same and I use multiple VMS/RDC through the day and have ZERO issue with the Modern UI. I'm pretty much working as I did before with the added bonus of finally using the damn keyboard to get at applications I seldom used before.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By SAN-Man on 2/18/2013 3:22:10 PM , Rating: 2
I said I had 10 apps in my task menu... my start menu has far more.

Faster and lightweight? Who cares? I have a quad core desktop with 16GB and an SSD. Windows 7 is lighting fast.

I used Windows 8 for a solid 30 days. That's more than enough time.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By Newspapercrane on 2/18/2013 6:03:14 PM , Rating: 2
Faster and lightweight? Who cares?

This was the part where you lost all of my respect.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By p05esto on 2/18/2013 8:30:28 PM , Rating: 5
His point and mine alike is that my PC is so fast already with Win7 (high end everything) that I can't imagine it being any faster. Every command I do is instant, I'm the slow one, not my PC. My PC boots in about 10 seconds. So if Win8 is a micro-second faster somwhere I also don't care at all. It's all about the UI.

Anyone run Rainmeter and all of the customizations that can do? It's pretty cool and I always thought could be the future of the desktop. It's like an interactive and real-time updating desktop tailored to you. Like the MS live tiles, but only about a 1000 times better.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By StevoLincolnite on 2/18/2013 9:24:17 PM , Rating: 5
Faster and lightweight? Who cares? I have a quad core desktop with 16GB and an SSD. Windows 7 is lighting fast.

On my Intel Atom tablet? With Windows 8 it boots and becomes usable so much faster and uses less battery.

On my Desktop with a Core i7 3930K @ 4.8ghz, 2x SSD's in Raid 0, 32Gb of ram the performance difference between Windows 7 and 8 is non-existent from a perceived performance difference.

But stating that no-one cares is ludicrous, not everyone is running a high-powered Desktop, Netbooks, Laptops with 5400rpm HDD's and Atom Tablets benefit greatly from the performance improvements Windows 8 offers.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By tng on 2/18/2013 5:39:21 PM , Rating: 3
...the metro UI is there to unify the PC, the tablet, and the phone. It makes sense!
Fast only goes so far, and as for unified PC/Tablet/Phone, who cares? I refuse to use a phone as a mobile process platform and a tablet does not have enough function as a phone or a PC to be worth the time.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By TakinYourPoints on 2/18/2013 6:15:04 PM , Rating: 5
the potential the metro UI is there to unify the PC, the tablet, and the phone. It makes sense!

Fullscreen interfaces make sense with small tablet and phone displays. They generally do not make sense with large desktop and laptop displays. This is the fundamental problem here.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By JPForums on 2/19/2013 12:38:52 PM , Rating: 4
Also, note the difference in catering to low precision (fat fingers) and high precision (mouse, trackball, etc.) pointing devices.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By timothyd97402 on 2/19/2013 2:06:42 PM , Rating: 2
Bottom line it is all about choice. Many of us have no use for the non-windowing Metro UI. Many of us quite like Aero. A lot us like and use the Start Menu. Why can't their be choice? Methinks it is all about Microsoft trying to deprecate the desktop and desktop programs altogether, all the better to collect their slice of app sales revenue through their app store. The other reason is to force the public to see and use Metro, so as to sell more phones and tablets, that will then look more familiar than the competition's products.

Microsoft could have preserved choice very easily with an option to default to the legacy desktop environment perhaps with a Metro sidebar that could also be disabled if we so wished. That they chose not to do so was purely for sales & marketing reasons.

You should quit complaining about users who have bona fide concerns, needs and desires.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By damianrobertjones on 2/18/2013 3:18:57 PM , Rating: 1
What you've just described can still be done in EXACTLY the same way with Windows 8. Go on then, tell me, how long did you use WIndows 8 for?

RE: Brace yourselves....
By SAN-Man on 2/18/13, Rating: 0
RE: Brace yourselves....
By ArcsinZ on 2/18/13, Rating: 0
RE: Brace yourselves....
By SAN-Man on 2/18/13, Rating: 0
RE: Brace yourselves....
By mcnabney on 2/18/2013 6:19:16 PM , Rating: 2
There are only two anchors for the Windows PC

DirectX games and MS Office

If you can resolve those two issues there is really no reason to stick with MS. The added cost and the burden of security just aren't worth it if you don't need those two things.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By JPForums on 2/19/2013 1:22:11 PM , Rating: 2
I was actually mostly in agreement until you made this statement:
And by the way, you are joking yourself if you think Linux will be mainstream any time soon. Sorry, but to do anything with Linux you have to learn and use the terminal at some point. Talk about taking a time warp back 20 years.
Really shows how well you've kept up with linux. I haven't had to use the terminal since 2010 when I switched to Ubuntu. I probably didn't have to before then, but I was using RHEL until the support ran out. I'm currently Giving Linux Mint a whirl (don't like unity) and it seems to have equal dependence on the terminal (that is to say none).

Addressing the original point, I like the Windows 7 UI better on the desktop. It looks and feels better in my opinion given that it was designed around a high precision pointing device. It may take more clicks to get somewhere, but pointing and clicking several times often takes less time than scrolling through the start screen to find the program of interest in Win8. However, I like the underlying system of Windows 8 better. The task manager and file transfer applets are significantly improved to name a few. Win8 is faster Win7 and this is even noticeable on an i7-3960X with 64GB quad channel ram, a Quadro 5000, and a Samsung 830 SSD if you run something sufficiently intense. Having a bazillion applications open simultaneously isn't the best way to show the performance differences. Simply trying to do normal tasks like checking e-mail, doing web searches, or modifying spreadsheets can show the difference when you have a single intense application running at the same time.

That said, I don't think people are really arguing that the underlying system isn't better than Windows 7. They are arguing that it isn't enough better to justify putting up with the UI. I can go through the steps of setting up the Windows 8 UI to be equally good (maybe even slightly better) for my purposes. However, that is a lot of work that I didn't have to do with Windows 7. Win7 sets things more to my liking by default. I am using both on a regular basis and see strengths to both, but I firmly believe that giving Windows 8 the option to boot to desktop and display the start screen in list mode (like Windows Phone) would go a long way towards improving the situation on the desktop (or just leave the old start menu intact).

RE: Brace yourselves....
By Fritzr on 2/19/2013 7:31:53 PM , Rating: 2
Install Start 8...Do NOT install any Metro Apps and enjoy Win8 enhancements with a Win7 experience :P

Yes you do lose Aeroglass and a few other performance sapping "enhancements" that Microsoft decided did not have enough user interest to justify continued support. (Aero itself was a theme pack that is or will soon be available from third parties, though Aeroglass may remain missing due to OS non-support)

RE: Brace yourselves....
By ArcsinZ on 2/21/2013 3:58:06 PM , Rating: 2
I just downloaded Mint 14 (I used to use Fedora as my desktop, so I'm not ignorant to Linux).
First thing I have to do for my job is install Java for remote management of Intel servers. Here are the instructions:
Notice they want you to use the terminal to install it, since the RPM is 32bit only.

Next thing I always like to do is install Tux Racer. Best PC game, bar none. Only way to do it is to use the terminal to create a package.

I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm just saying that Linux is not for the faint of heart. It works great for a lot of things, just not for average users. You have to be a geek, or at the least want to learn about computers, in order to use it. Windows and OSX are not that way.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By tayb on 2/18/2013 3:22:49 PM , Rating: 2
Posts like these are what lead me to believe that most of the "haters" have never actually tried to use Windows 8 for more than a few moments.

I actually use my PC to work every day. At this moment I have 17 windows open across three monitors. My quick launch menu has 15 applications in it. My star menu is used quite a bit. Pinning and grouping applications is pointless and slow. Metro is equally pointless and slow. My task menu has 10 applications currently listed. I use/click them all.

Windows 8 handles this type of multi-task/multi-application work much better than Windows 7. In Windows 7 you are limited in the number of applications you can pin to the start menu for quick access. In the Windows 8 start screen no such limitation exists. In Windows 7 you must download and manage applications to get the task bar on every screen. In Windows 8 this is no longer an issue.

My quick launch bar has 21 applications on it. My start screen has 16 more. On 3 screens. If I was stuck using Windows 7 I would have to go through the start menu to all programs. No thanks.

If I want to see what services are running I don't need to type 'services' into the start menu. I just open the task manager. If I want to see what applications load at start up I just open the task manager. No more msconfig.

I have a lot going on in my job. I need a desktop environment which works for me. Metro just doesn't. I don't want to spend time hacking my corporate PC to make it function like Windows 7 does flawlessly. That's unacceptable.

Metro isn't a desktop environment... The desktop is alive and well in Windows 8.

Start screen = full screen start menu. Once you get over that shocking realization you can focus on the actual enhancements to Windows 8... and there are many.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By tayb on 2/18/13, Rating: 0
RE: Brace yourselves....
By SAN-Man on 2/18/13, Rating: 0
RE: Brace yourselves....
By tayb on 2/18/13, Rating: -1
RE: Brace yourselves....
By SAN-Man on 2/18/2013 6:20:03 PM , Rating: 2
But somehow you don't? Odd.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By tayb on 2/19/2013 10:23:59 AM , Rating: 2
Step 1: Post some complaints
Step 2: Ignore response
Step 3: Ignore second response
Step 4: ???
Step 5: Profit

RE: Brace yourselves....
By nikon133 on 2/18/2013 4:15:41 PM , Rating: 2
Perfect post, much as I am concerned.

I would only add beautiful right-click admin menu in lower-left corner. Genius.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By Murst on 2/18/2013 3:52:56 PM , Rating: 2
I have the exact opposite experience with Windows 8. I switched to Win8 because it actually has proper multi-monitor support, so that when I have many applications open at the same time, they are actually manageable. This wasn't really possible in Win7, but in Win8 you can keep what is happening on each monitor and having the taskbar to match it. I can't stand using Win7 now because I can't find my open applications quickly enough.

I also do not understand why people miss the start menu. Both the start menu in Win7 and start screen in Win8 suck. I actually have no idea where my applications are, but that doesn't matter, because I simply type the application name in the search bar and hit enter (for things that aren't pinned to my taskbar).

Also, multi-monitor support functions correctly when using remote desktop to a Win8 machine. You could fake it in Win7 by using /span, but that had its own flaws.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By jmke on 2/19/2013 4:26:40 AM , Rating: 3

RE: Brace yourselves....
By Fritzr on 2/19/2013 7:35:41 PM , Rating: 2
Paid 3rd party vs Free pre-installed.

Integrated, free and pre-installed usually wins with consumers.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By nikon133 on 2/18/2013 4:08:40 PM , Rating: 2
Out of curiosity... Do you think many people around here actually don't use their PC every day, at work and at home, when you feel a need to emphasise that?

Humour me. I believe you that Linux Mint 14 looks great. I hear ya. But... will those 15 applications you run on your Windows also run on Linux, and is it going to be simple - or possible at all - to find adequate Linux apps to replace them all. If not - can you really switch? Do you work in OS itself, or in apps running under OS?

Because I don't think I could replace apps I am using dailt at my work. My work PC runs on only 2 monitors. I do run on them pretty much daily:

Corel PhotoPaint
Adobe DreamWeaver
SharePoint Workspace
IE, Firefox, Chrome
3CX MyPhone

I have most of them open during the work hours, all of them on occasion. Under Windows 8 Enterprise. Works brilliantly for me ever since I've installed it on my work PC, back in September. In fact, I have upgraded my personal laptop and home PC to Win 8 since. Not because Win 7 is bad - it was great and my favourite Windows ever, before I got hooked to 8. But I do like 8 more.

Looking forward Blue release.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By eldakka on 2/18/2013 8:21:29 PM , Rating: 1
Hmm, just taking a punt, I don't use most of these applications but seeing if i can think of Linux alternatives ;)

Outlook - an email client, so thunderbird, other clients, mailx and mail if you are desperate enough ;)
Word - Open/Libre Office, others, emacs or vi if really desperate
Excel - Open/Libre Office, others
Powerpoint - no idea, it's just presentation software so probably
ConnectWise - had to google this, no idea what it was. I don't know if there is a Linux equivalent, but according to a brief look at what it does, there are many open source equivalents of its individual functionality (ticketing systems, invoice systems etc) tho not sure if there's something that integrates all into a single product.
ITQuoter - no idea.
CorelDraw/Photopaint/dreamweaver - many opensource Linux alternatives, GIMP, Dia, Inkscape, sK1, etc. Capabilities will vary.
Sharepoint Workspace - eww sharepoint (wait, can't u just use a source control system with your favourite products editing files and syncing to remote PC'/servers/Cloud servers?)
IE/Firefox/Chrome - browsers, FF and chrome work on Linux
3CX MyPhone - some sort of advanced PBX software? There are PBX software that runs on Linux. Tho I have no idea on how they compare, 3CX may shit all over them, no idea.

And if worst comes to worst, if you needed these EXACT products (as opposed to other products that can do the same/similiar job) then most of them could probably run under WINE.

Disclaminer I use a Windows XP (yes, XP!) desktop at work, multimonitor, running heaps of apps simultaneously, Lotus Notes, MS Office products, text editors (yay Notepad++), source control software (icky clearcase), browsers (FF, IE, Opera mostly), cygwin/X with 2 rootless X sessions each with like 6 xterms running in each, plus another 6 xterms in multiwindow mode. I'm hoping to get to win7 before the end of the year tho...

RE: Brace yourselves....
By nikon133 on 2/19/2013 4:08:44 PM , Rating: 2
And punt you'll get! ;)

Email client - has to fully integrate with Exchange (email, calendar, shared calendars, contacts) and have available connectors to ConnectWise (calendar syncing) and 3CX (soft-phone calling from contacts, voicemails sent to inbox as attachments). I'm not aware many can do this, beside good old Outlook.

Word, Excel, PP - replacements would have to be fully compatible with MS Office. Formulas, VB support, formatting... we do cooperate and collaborate within company, and on occasion with customers as well.

ConnectWise - it took time and money to implement and tune it to our requirements. Moving to different platform would be... wasteful at least.

ITQuoter is CRM based piece of software, not pretty but functional. Has access to all our supplier stock lists, with pricing and available stock. It also links with ConnectWise - ie you create a quote in ITQ and it creates Opportunity ticket in CW. Then you can elevate VW opportunity to project, for example, and add other project elements. Basically sales/procurement tool.

CDR, CPT, DreamWeaver. Coincidently our printer is using CDR, so sending files is as painless as possible. Sure we could use something else but it would require additional conversions to PS or AI or any other wide-accepted format. Yes it would work, but it would add complexity to the process, and unnecessary one, IMHO. Additionally, time would have to be spent to learn new software, without any obvious gains and easy to expect problems along the way. Why?

SharePoint - yeah, not my favourite either. But... we do use it and our customers do use it, so it is unavoidable right now.

Browsers - fine.

3CX, software based VoIP PBX. Works with number of VoIP phones (like Cisco S504G) and softphones. Integrates with Outlook. I'm only using it, but according to our engineer in charge, it is very capable. One way or another, it is requirement.

So you see... a one man band could replace Windows with Linux (or OSx) OS and tools, but even then with questionable success and hard to predict issues and frustrations, and wasted time to get into new software.

But as a part of company with established IT infrastructure and processes... no, I don't think so.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By crispbp04 on 2/18/13, Rating: -1
RE: Brace yourselves....
By retrospooty on 2/18/2013 5:31:21 PM , Rating: 4
""if you were intelligent enough.......... not pinning frequent applications to your taskbar you're also retarded."

He is, pinning apps to his taskbar... he said he's got 15 of them. If you were intelligent enough, you would know that the taskbar is also called quick-launch. ;)

Sorry, I couldn't resist, seeing someone insult the intelligence of another with a clear mistake in the response is pretty funny. :P

RE: Brace yourselves....
By crispbp04 on 2/18/13, Rating: -1
RE: Brace yourselves....
By Norseman4 on 2/18/2013 7:12:34 PM , Rating: 2
In Win7, I pinned 1 item (VS2010 ... gimme a linix version of that and we'll talk!) to both the Start menu and task bar.

Mousing over the start menu item at the top of the list (VS2010) shows all of my recent files. Same shows up for the pinned item in my task bar.

(I truly love this xerox inspired addition to the PC called a mouse, except when the laser has trouble tracking on the gloss white desktop)

RE: Brace yourselves....
By Norseman4 on 2/18/2013 7:25:38 PM , Rating: 2
Sorry, got a bit confused about the poster-who-I-replying-to's viewpoint. (I blame the rum, though I still don't like the Win8 UI for anything but touch enabled screens)

RE: Brace yourselves....
By retrospooty on 2/18/2013 7:16:00 PM , Rating: 2
Quicklaunch is what he is referring to as taskbar when you insulted him for no reason. It is one in the same, some apps take advantage of the added functionality some don't, but its the same thing. Not sure? Check where your own taskbar shortcuts are... I'll give you a clue, they live here in the "QUICKLAUNCH" folder in Vista, Win7 and 8 (and the equivalent folder in XP as well).

C:\Users\[userfolder]\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\I nternet Explorer\Quick Launch

RE: Brace yourselves....
By retrospooty on 2/18/2013 7:17:40 PM , Rating: 2
I meant to add... .YOu'll even find your "user pinned" folder there. It is the exact same thing int he same place with added funtcionality for apps that support it. Thus the folder name - quicklaunch.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By crispbp04 on 2/18/13, Rating: -1
RE: Brace yourselves....
By retrospooty on 2/18/2013 8:55:11 PM , Rating: 3
Lol. Its not wrong, you're wrong , go look at your own folder I posted above. Pin a new app to your taskbar. You will see it appear in your quicklaunch\pinned folder you dope. Delete another pinned app and you will see it disappear. Its the same thing.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By bigboxes on 2/19/2013 10:25:03 AM , Rating: 3
RE: Brace yourselves....
By crispbp04 on 2/19/2013 3:21:46 PM , Rating: 2
i didn't need to mention vista since nobody used it. But yeah, it died with vista, thanks for the correction.

It doesn't change the fact that quick launch sucked, and it is not the same as a pinned application. Where microsoft decided to store information is irrelevant.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By bigboxes on 2/19/2013 4:43:47 PM , Rating: 2
Sigh. That is a Win7 screenshot. Right click on the task bar > Toolbars > Quick Launch.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By Ramstark on 2/18/2013 5:57:10 PM , Rating: 2
Ummm...I'm sorry pal, but you just described yourself as EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE to a corporate user. Corporations are full of mediocre, hard to update, hardware which require a light OS and backward compatibility, that's why corporations WILL upgrade when the software for touch working interfaces boom. It will start on health and construction industries, we, programmers and IT teams would be the last, as programming "Tron like" will take a long way to go yet, and we know how programmers or accountants as you and me like the old PC form factor.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By p05esto on 2/18/2013 8:19:45 PM , Rating: 2
Agreed. If MS keeps pissing me off I will also move to Linux. Watch the tech/geek crowd flow to Linux like a great tidal wave, it will be enormous! And where the techs go the average folks always follow, ALWAYS. The techs recommend to their family and friends, coworkers, etc. Stupid MS, get your head out of your ASS!

RE: Brace yourselves....
By Fritzr on 2/19/2013 7:52:39 PM , Rating: 2
Followed by the support requests..
Why doesn't <MS only> work on my new <Greatest Linux ever!> computer?
I need to install <not supported by Linux> on my <Greatest Linux ever!> that I just bought. Can you help me?
I need to configure this new program, but it tells me to select options without telling me what I can choose. Can you help me? (Linux is famous for assuming that users know where the documentation can be found and how to follow unmentioned connections to other references...Yes Windows help can be just as bad, but the software assumes a much lower level of technical expertise)

Remember that the target market for new applications and devices is the dominant OS. Everything else is an afterthought. Exceptions are niche targeted devices that are often adaptations of things available for the dominant market. Exceptions exist for companies that make their rep by specializing in niche OSes such as Unix compatible or Apple OSes, but they are exceptional cases.

If you actually handle family & friends support, you can fill the list easily. If not then just consider everything you have done adding things to the package you picked up at the store and imagine people without your training trying the same thing.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By iamezza on 2/19/2013 8:45:07 AM , Rating: 2
Install Start 8, 5 mins and your done, never worry about metro again.

RE: Brace yourselves....
By chripuck on 2/19/2013 11:15:46 AM , Rating: 2
The problem with Windows 8 is that it is only a few tweaks away from being really awesome, even with the Metro UI.

1.) Get rid of the Metro multi-tasking. You have the task bar, it's been there for 20 years, it works, even for tablets. You can add a swipe up action to show screenshots of each running program if need be, but it multi-tasking should be done in one place.

2.) Allow Metro applications to be windowed on the task bar. Make this a configurable setting, desktop/laptops have it off, tablets have it on (so the Windows button works as intended.)

3.) Put the Start Button back. It doesn't have to bring up the old start menu, it still goes to the Metro menu, but it brings everyone comfort. Give it a flashy animation to show it "blowing up"

4.) For heaven's sake, make application folders collapsible (and collapsed by default) when viewing All Apps in the Metro interface.

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