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New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is expected to bring some new ideas to the table at his State of the City address, including a push for more electric vehicle (EV) parking.

At the State of the City address, which will take place today at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, Mayor Bloomberg will propose the addition of parking spaces specifically for EVs. In fact, he wants 20 percent of any new parking added to the city to be EV-only, where the appropriate charging cables will be available for an easy hook-up. The city makes about 10,000 new spots annually.

Residents have already started speaking out about the idea, either saying that there aren't enough EVs in the city to justify the proposal or that it will likely increase adoption.

Mayor Bloomberg has been a major EV advocate in NYC. In 2007, he set a goal to make 13,000 of NYC's taxi's hybrids by 2012 in a project called the "Taxi of Tomorrow." In 2011, Mayor Bloomberg and Nissan Americas Chairman Carlos Tavares announced that the Nissan NV200 had been selected as the "Taxi of Tomorrow."

By the end of 2011, it was announced that the city would receive six Nissan Leaf EV taxis in 2012.

In addition to his EV push, Mayor Bloomberg will also propose the banning of styrofoam and the increase of recycling by 30 percent by 2017 at today's State of the City address.

The proposals will have to be approved by City Council, which could take a couple of months.

Source: CBS New York

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EVs make sense for City
By Keeir on 2/14/2013 3:09:57 PM , Rating: 2
EVs make the most sense in heavy city traffic, where removing the idling engine will save gas, reduce noise, and reduce pollution (increasing public health). Since EVs aren't as inefficient at ICE at lower speeds, a 100 miles EV/taxi might even make alot of sense for NYC people.

RE: EVs make sense for City
By jimbojimbo on 2/14/2013 3:14:46 PM , Rating: 1
True. When I lived in Chicago I looked at buying a Volt since there was a parking structure less than a block away with dedicated electric charging stations and just for EVs. However, there was never a guarantee that they would be available so therefore no guarantee you'll be able to charge your car. I bought a normal car and over the following year noticed that only one EV car was ever in them or due to the lot becoming full someone would park a normal car there, like I had to. Make 20% of parking for EV only and you'll get a lot of empty parking spots and pissed off drivers.
Does Bloomberg know who's going to be paying for all that electricity?

By Philippine Mango on 2/14/2013 10:45:57 PM , Rating: 2
yeah but it's for NEW parking...

RE: EVs make sense for City
By chick0n on 2/15/13, Rating: 0
RE: EVs make sense for City
By maugrimtr on 2/15/2013 9:27:58 AM , Rating: 1
Second time in as many days that the myth of the power grid being incapable of handling EVs has emerged. Eventually, one of you will release actual data to try and back up that make-believe scenario. One day.

RE: EVs make sense for City
By wordsworm on 2/15/2013 11:53:19 AM , Rating: 2
I'm always surprised to see an intelligent conversation here. I always come here to see what dumb people like to say. Sometimes out of the blue someone says something remarkably intelligent and then I realize I'm not the only intelligent person on DT.

RE: EVs make sense for City
By chick0n on 2/15/2013 8:38:21 PM , Rating: 2
just like how some shows like myth buster said it doesn't matter if the meat is marinated or not it still taste the same?

do u have any idea how many cars are registered in NYC alone?

it's easy math actually, morons like you love to "oh man show me proof that it can't be done", well if you are dead, you are dead. it might be possible that you can come back to life, sorry but I can't proof that.

RE: EVs make sense for City
By WilcoD on 2/17/2013 11:42:09 AM , Rating: 2
There aren't enough petrol stations to fill up all cars at the same time. If every car was driven for 500 miles every day then we would run out of petrol and oil in a few days as refineries and oil tankers would not be able to keep up with the demand.

So do you agree our petrol and oil based infrastructure is totally inadequate? It is for that particular demand curve.

However just like petrol cars, EV's don't all need to recharge at the same time or require a full charge every day. Since electricity consumption is quite low at night, you can recharge millions of EV's without needing any changes to the grid.

RE: EVs make sense for City
By Reclaimer77 on 2/17/2013 2:11:41 PM , Rating: 2
You've missed the point entirely. Gasoline is easily stored potential energy. Currently there is no way to store electricity for the purposes of EV use. All electricity used must be generated on the fly and send through the grid.

Since electricity consumption is quite low at night, you can recharge millions of EV's without needing any changes to the grid.

No, absolutely false. You cannot.

In this hypothetical what-if where every registered vehicle in New York City were an EV, there is just absolutely no way the grid and power plants could satisfy the demand. There WOULD be rolling brownouts and blackouts.

Speaking of New York, we've all seen the chaos caused there by storms. The lines at the pump, the gas shortages, etc etc. But even then, because gasoline is easily stored potential energy, they ARE able to power their vehicles and keep the city's basic services going. What happens in a world dependent on EV's when a storm wrecks a major city and the power goes down for weeks?

And if you answer with "everyone will just have a gas generator", I'll smack you in the face with a tuna fish. First that's not remotely believable, secondly if the generator is dependent on fuel, you've failed in proving we can exist as a society without it.

RE: EVs make sense for City
By WilcoD on 2/18/2013 7:32:44 AM , Rating: 2
No you missed the point entirely. The point is that it is a myth that the grid cannot handle EV's.

Taking New York as an example, current domestic electricity consumption is about 611 kWh per month. Average mileage in US is 13476, and electic cars like Tesla S achieve 3.8 miles per kWh. That means total domestic electricity consumption increases by less than 50%. In New York, domestic consumption is 35% of the total, so if all cars in NY were EV's overall electricity consumption only increases by 17%. That's trivial.

In the very unlikely scenario of no electricity for weeks you are far far better of with an EV and solar panels. You need electricity to refuel your petrol car, so petrol cars will run out of fuel even if petrol stations had fuel (which they won't). However people with solar panels can run their house and from the solar panels and EV, even at night.

As a society we depend on electricity far more than we do on petrol. We can easily convert all cars to EV's without any changes in our lifestyles. We can even wean ourselves completely off oil. But we cannot exist without electricity. That's why EV's are the future.

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