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While General Motors and Ford drag their feet, Chrysler says "YES" to turbodiesels in half-ton trucks

It looks as though diesel mania is finally starting to catch on in the United States. Chrysler has confirmed that it will be offering a V6 turbodiesel in its Ram 1500 "consumer grade" pickup during the third quarter of 2013 according to USA Today.
 
The Big Three (Chrysler, Ford, GM) have long offered turbodiesel engines in their heavy-duty pickups, but have been reluctant to offer diesel power in their half-ton trucks due to concerns that Americans wouldn't pony up the money for a more fuel efficient engine (the 6.7 liter Cummins turbodiesel option on heavy-duty Ram pickups is a $7,795 option).
 
Auto enthusiasts have been craving a diesel engine in half-ton pickups for years, but the manufacturers have constantly pushed back. Chrysler, however, is finally listening to its customers.  "Customers have been emphatically asking for this, thirsting for it, craving it," said Fred Diaz, CEO of Chrysler's Ram division, citing internal studies.


Ram 1500
 
Unlike the diesel engine offered in heavy-duty versions of the Ram, Cummins won’t make this engine. Italian company VM Motori will instead manufacture the 3-liter V6 turbodiesel. The same engine will be available in the 2013 Jeep Grand Cherokee and produces 240hp and 420 lb-ft of torque in that application.
 
For comparison, the 5.7-liter V8 Hemi available in the Ram 1500 produces 360hp and 390 lb-ft of torque. Ford's 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6, which is billed as a fuel-efficient and powerful option for the F-150, is rated at 365hp and 420 lb-ft of torque. However, it wouldn't be a stretch to state that the Ram 1500 turbodiesel should have no problem outclassing the EcoBoost in EPA and real world fuel economy.
 
Chrysler is currently staying mum on pricing/fuel economy for the turbo diesel engine option, but TrueCar.com expects the company to court an additional 10,000 in the first year of availability with continued growth in the coming years.

Updated 2/14/2013 @ 2:32pm EST
Chrysler has made an offiical announement on the light-duty turbodiesel.

Sources: USA Today, Chrysler



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Wut?
By Chadder007 on 2/14/2013 10:54:27 AM , Rating: 2
WTF? They aren't using the Cummin's motor that was made for this?




RE: Wut?
By Brandon Hill (blog) on 2/14/2013 10:57:12 AM , Rating: 2
Nope :(


RE: Wut?
By Spuke on 2/14/2013 11:00:36 AM , Rating: 2
My guess is if this sells remotely well, Ford and GM will offers theirs too. Ford, especially, won't let another manufacturer take an inch of their marketshare in the pickup arena. I know GM has a small diesel engine ready but anyone know if Ford does?


RE: Wut?
By tbird635 on 2/14/2013 11:31:31 AM , Rating: 2
Yes. Ford does have a diesel ready and it will be available in the US in the Transit Van. https://rumors.automobilemag.com/2014-ford-transit...
Probably a matter of time before it shows up in the F150


RE: Wut?
By Spuke on 2/15/2013 12:06:12 PM , Rating: 2
Doubt Ford will use that engine unless power is upped to match or beat Chrysler.


RE: Wut?
By GotThumbs on 2/14/2013 11:09:15 AM , Rating: 3
For a 1/2 ton, it would probalby be overkill.
I checked out the VM Morori site and there I4 diesel engines were used in the Toyota land cruisers.

http://www.vmmotori.it/en/index.jsp

I think I'd prefer an I4 engine over the V6 if possible. Inline engines just seem to have better performance/reliability over time IMO.

A diesel Toyota Tacoma would be sweet for mid-sized truck buyers. I think too many general consumers still think of "smoky and slow" when they think diesel.


RE: Wut?
By agentsmithitaly on 2/14/2013 11:22:08 AM , Rating: 2
I'm happy you took the time to look at the VM Motori website. I think their engines are up to the reputation of Cummins ones.
Plus it's half owned by Fiat, the company who developed Common Rail tecnology, implemented in almost all modern Diesel engines.
Too bad the poor management at the time decided to sell the technology to Bosch, which made a lot of money from it...


RE: Wut?
By JediJeb on 2/14/2013 11:29:16 PM , Rating: 2
quote:
Plus it's half owned by Fiat,


That is probably the reason right there they went with that engine, plus the fact that Ford now owns Cummins.


RE: Wut?
By xprojected on 2/14/2013 12:25:49 PM , Rating: 2
The heavy duty (2500+) pickup diesels like Cummins don't meet strict US/California emissions regulations for light duty vehicles, including regular pickups. They have to use the new "clean diesel" engines.


RE: Wut?
By GotThumbs on 2/14/2013 1:44:29 PM , Rating: 2
Well, since there is no chance in H_LL that I'll EVER be moving to California and since it's a 2003 3500 Quad-cab with only 145,000 miles on it....I'm not concerned with Obama's EPA. I'll drive it till the body falls apart, then I'll replace that part.

I'll never be buying a brand new car/truck. It just not worth it to me IMO.

Best wishes,


RE: Wut?
By Spuke on 2/15/2013 3:58:27 PM , Rating: 2
Heavy duty pickups were exempt from CA emissions testing until a year ago. Even then, the emissions test is a joke and easy to pass. It's really not an emissions test, they're just looking for modded trucks. Still easy to pass even with a modded truck IMO.


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