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Big sales numbers or simply not enough tablets?

Microsoft launched its Surface Pro tablet over the weekend. The software giant is now boasting that the Surface Pro tablet has sold out at most retail locations. Microsoft no longer shows 128 GB version of the tablet as in stock on its own online store.

Other locations including Best Buy and Staples are also sold out of the tablet. Microsoft, however, does still show that the cheaper 64 GB Surface Pro at its own online store. Selling all available units would usually indicate strong demand, however, it remains unclear exactly how many units Microsoft had available.


Business Insider reports that some posts online indicate that Best Buy and Staples locations had only a few Surface Pro tablets in stock while some locations had no stock at all. Posts to the official Surface blog also indicate that there were few tablets to be had.

One post read, "Tried every outlet that Microsoft released the Surface Pro. Cannot get my hands on the 128 GB version. My local Staples and Best Buy stores ( 2 of each ) had 2 64 GB versions for sale each and ran out by 9:15 a.m. and 11:15 a.m. on Feb. 9 and had no 128 GB versions at all. What is wrong with you guys at Microsoft?"

If customers are looking to score a good deal on the less capable Surface RT, Staples is offering a decent deal. Customers can now get the tablet with a $75 discount from Staples using special coupon code 99279.

Sources: Business Insider, Virtual Pants, SlickDeals



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RE: Large Stock
By Samus on 2/11/2013 12:31:32 PM , Rating: 4
-comparable Ultrabook pricing\iPad 128GB pricing
-lighter than any Ultrabook
-typical resolution for Sub-$1000 Ultraportable
-average Ultrabook battery life
-runs warm , no reviewer said "hot"
-no review mentioned fan noise to be intruding
-typical Intel graphics, same as 90% of notebooks
-since when was 720p camera not enough for conference calls?
-what's wrong with the stylus mount?
-low build quality? what? have you even read reviews?
-how is the power connector design any better/worse than Apples magsafe?
-two of the most revolutionary keyboard designs ever, why don't you try them first?
-what tablet can you use on your lap with a keyboard?
-it's a Windows 8 delivery vehicle, designed to expand on the features of the OS, specifically touch. so obviously it runs Windows 8. if you have a problem with that and want Windows 7, go ahead and load Windows 7 on it and enjoy the 'excellent' touch support Windows 7 offers.

/fixed


RE: Large Stock
By Shadowself on 2/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: Large Stock
By inighthawki on 2/11/2013 4:03:15 PM , Rating: 5
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It's competing with the top of the line tablets

You are about as dead wrong as you can get. This device is a device that has the properties of an ultra book, but with the ability to use it in the tablet form factor. It is not a competitor to the ipad, or any other android notebook.

Also, why is having a stylus a bad thing? Additional features are suddenly a downside?


RE: Large Stock
By inighthawki on 2/11/2013 5:43:20 PM , Rating: 2
That should read "Android tablet " not "Android notebook"


RE: Large Stock
By Mint on 2/12/2013 1:43:36 AM , Rating: 2
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Also, why is having a stylus a bad thing?
Isn't it obvious?

"If you see a stylus, they blew it" -Jobs


RE: Large Stock
By maugrimtr on 2/12/2013 10:16:20 AM , Rating: 2
Arbitrary Apple limitation as they sought to create a consumption device. A stylus is a fundamental requirement for a device geared for creating stuff. The same with a keyboard. I can type far faster with a real keyboard - I do a LOT of writing (physics and software security) and finger fumbling on an iPad is frustrating at best. Having a built on tablet keyboard is pretty neat contrasted with having to get a third party setup for an iPad (hidden cost in iPad pricing).


RE: Large Stock
By bsd228 on 2/11/2013 4:03:44 PM , Rating: 3
> quote:
> -lighter than any Ultrabook
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>But not lighter than its main competitor: the iPad. Agian, people >expect better from a Windows machine than they get from Apple

You're confused. The Surface Pro is not a competitor to the Ipad. Both are tablet form, yes. But one has a desktop class cpu and operating system, and the ipad does not. If Apple squished the guts of a mac mini into an ipad and ran OSX, it would be the same type of product.


RE: Large Stock
By mcnabney on 2/11/2013 5:02:07 PM , Rating: 2
It may be able to run all Win8 software, but 99.999% of all software that CAN run on Windows is going to have serious issues with the touchscreen/default resolution. Have you seen the new Office updated for Metro? Making it touchscreen friendly has turned it into a kludge. Real work generally involves precision - and even the best touchscreen will NEVER come close to a mouse.


RE: Large Stock
By inighthawki on 2/11/2013 5:42:03 PM , Rating: 2
I haven't had any issues with Office 2013's interface on tablet or desktop.


RE: Large Stock
By StraightCashHomey on 2/11/2013 6:05:58 PM , Rating: 3
That's because you've actually used it, and he spanks it to a poster of Steve Jobs.


RE: Large Stock
By ResStellarum on 2/11/2013 8:08:54 PM , Rating: 2
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This is BY FAR (very, very far, acutally) the strongest selling point of the Surface Pro. You an run the vast majority of Windows apps on it


And the vast majority of Windows apps are built for the desktop interface, which means they are horrible for touch just like the Windows 7 slabs.

Even the new touch centric tile ui can't save the surface, because let's face it, it's no where near as good as Android or iOS, which were designed from ground up to be touch friendly, not some tacked on superimposition sitting on top of the old Windows 7 desktop pretending it's not.


RE: Large Stock
By Mint on 2/12/2013 1:39:18 AM , Rating: 1
You're forgetting about the stylus, probably because Apple told you to.

The stylus is a near-perfect mouse replacement for legacy apps on an ultra-mobile platform (aside from FPS games), and even has precision/control advantages. I use it with remote desktop on my Galaxy Note. You hover for mouse movement, tap to left-click/drag, and press the stylus button to right-click.

The point of Surface is that you don't have to be hamstrung by the limitations of touch in a 2lb form factor.

I'm actually pretty sure that Apple shunned the stylus for exactly this reason. The stylus would have played perfectly into Apple's creative, graphic designer image, but it also gives legacy apps a chance to survive on an ultra-mobile platform. They want to make x86 obsolete.


RE: Large Stock
By Nortel on 2/11/13, Rating: 0
RE: Large Stock
By gsellis on 2/11/2013 5:30:35 PM , Rating: 2
Mine runs warm, is quiet, and runs about 4 hours doing normal stuff. It works. I have been taking notes on build ups using the stylist in the lab. And... had a Windows 2003 server running in VMware 9 workstation this morning.

You are just guessing. If you used one, you would know. It is an ultrabook in sff.

Charging mine now for the bus ride home...


RE: Large Stock
By ATrigo on 2/11/2013 7:06:10 PM , Rating: 2
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We have since moved into a world where it is far more convenient to have everything just work. Your average person doesn't want to kludge around with installing PC software, updating drivers and dealing with scaling modes.


Yeah right, because jailbreaking to have access to the real features is "It Just Works".


RE: Large Stock
By Manch on 2/12/2013 10:17:10 AM , Rating: 2
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We have since moved into a world where it is far more convenient to have everything just work.


That part had me rolling. I don't know what world Nortel came from, but that's always been the case here on Earth.


RE: Large Stock
By althaz on 2/11/2013 7:53:20 PM , Rating: 2
Actually, Peter's review focussed on exactly one use-case: his. He uses his laptop in his lap to type things on. The Surface is crap for this (well, it's not better than other tablets at least, the touch keyboard is probably the best in the business, but not by any real margin).

Peter said it wasn't hot but he did find the fans to be annoying (but importantly he said they weren't overly loud, he just didn't like the tone they produced).

The device didn't meet Peter's expectation, but to be honest I can't understand how he had so little idea of what he was going to be getting.

It's not a laptop. It's a portable computer you can use as a tablet. A laptop is an in-between advice that (IMO) is crap for taking with you and crap for using somewhere fixed.

The Surface Pro is a little better for working at a desk (as it takes up less space, I would be plugging in a real monitor/mouse/keyboard for usability or using it as a monitor).

It's a LOT better for using on the couch (notebook's can't really be used on the couch, IMO, so this isn't exactly hard).

It's also a LOT more portable than any laptop or ultrabook.

It's failures when compared to a laptop are obviously battery, screen size and typing-in-your-lap. With the latter two you're no worse off than any tablet (indeed you're better off than most).

Which leaves the sole (major, there's LOTS of minor things that could be improved), valid criticism of the device as battery life. Battery life on the Surface Pro is pretty abysmal. It doesn't impact me personally (which is why I'm buying one as soon as humanly possible), but I expect this to be a deal breaker for those looking for primarily a tablet.

Of course there are lots of minor things that should be fixed/improved (in addition to the big one, which is battery life):
- The pen should slide away somewhere instead of clipping onto the same spot as the charger.
- Weight needs to be reduced, I would say this is the second biggest problem with the Surface Pro, although I didn't find it overly heavy, it's not quite light enough for a tablet.
- Get rid of the fans. Tablets should be silent, not quiet.
- Better graphics performance - HD4000 is actually pretty capable (better than all other tablets maybe?), but it's fairly weak by PC standards.
- I kinda want to say "get more apps", but considering everything I've looked for is already on the ms app store, this might already be covered


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