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European Union wants a much larger electric vehicle infrastructure

With fuel prices in Europe considerably higher than prices in the U.S., the European Union has big plans to help push drivers to electric vehicles and that plan includes adding a huge number of new electric vehicle charging stations.

The European Union wants to add half a million EV charging stations by 2020. If successful, the plan would make electric vehicle charging stations nearly as common as gas stations within the EU.

”We can finally stop the chicken and the egg discussion on whether infrastructure needs to be there before the large scale roll out of electric vehicles. With our proposed binding targets for charging points using a common plug, electric vehicles are set to hit the road in Europe,” said Action Connie Hedegaard, the European Commissioner for Climate.

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Some of the most ambitious plans in the EU come from Germany, France, Spain, and Britain. Each of those nations has a goal of having more than 7 million electric vehicles on the roads by 2020.
However, the European Union has a long way to go to reach its goal. Electric vehicles aren't exactly rolling off dealer lots at a rapid pace. During 2011, German drivers purchased 1,858 electric vehicles, 1,796 were purchased in France, 1,547 found homes in Norway, and 1,170 were purchased in Britain. Those numbers make EVs only a small fraction of the vehicles on the roads today.
The huge number of EV charging stations is a significant part of the plan to get drivers into electric vehicles, but the charging stations are not the entire plan. The Clean Power for Transport Package is an €8 billion plan that also includes standard for developing hydrogen, biofuels, and other natural gas networks.

Source: NYT

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RE: Thanks God
By Amiga500 on 1/30/2013 11:39:40 AM , Rating: 1
Electric cars are the only way to go.

Apart from hydrogen fuel cell...

Or hydrogen IC...

Or compressed air...

RE: Thanks God
By Motoman on 1/30/2013 12:28:53 PM , Rating: 2
Or, you know, petroleum products and ultimately transitioning into biofuels of some kind, still using ICE motors.

There are big problems with EVs...not just their cost and range, but the strain on electric grids and capacity - which is likely to be by far the biggest problem.

A few EVs recharging here and there is no big deal - drop, say, 10 EVs per charging station, which works out to 5 million cars, and you're probably looking at a sort of armageddon from the standpoint of electrical generation and distribution.

Lots more nuclear reactors and probably bonafide smart grids will be necessary before you can really support mainstream adoption of EVs.

I'm not sure about Europe's current state, grid-wise, but I can say I'm under the impression that the USA is in dire need of grid upgrades. I seem to recall that the cost to put the USA on a truly smart grid would be something like a $1 trillion project. Which probably needs to be done anyway...and we probably should be building more nuke plants anyway...but still.

The prudent course of action is likely to just keep developing the ultra-efficient little turbodiesel things that are all over the place in Europe, and continue R&D into biodiesel, and perhaps by the time we have smart grids we'll have secured a perpetual diesel supply anyway.m not sure about Europe

RE: Thanks God
By Mint on 1/30/13, Rating: 0
RE: Thanks God
By maugrimtr on 1/31/2013 10:38:05 AM , Rating: 2
Nuclear energy needs to get more attention. People are so afraid of 1950s era technology that they forget to use their 21st century smartphone with lithium battery technology to find out what a safer, minimal waste nuclear plant might use...

Environmentalists risk becoming Luddites if they continue to think that all future energy capacity can be derived from intermittent renewable sources. We need a blended approach. The only approach that should be off limits is burning stuff. Burning coal is the filthiest means of generating electricity known to mankind - it's even filthier than nuclear because it poisons the atmosphere without first requiring the unlikely event of a catastrophic meltdown or tsunami.

RE: Thanks God
By Mint on 1/31/2013 12:17:20 PM , Rating: 2
I want nuclear to succeed, but its going to be really tough for it to compete initially with the cheap gas we're getting from fracking.

At $4 per thousand cubic feet, we're looking at a fuel cost of just $0.024/kWh for a modern 60% efficient CCGT plant. It used to be 2-4x that much. Suddenly the fuel cost advantage of nuclear has been drastically cut. It'll take some really low cost plants to be worth the up front capital and risk.

RE: Thanks God
By Mint on 1/31/2013 12:18:30 PM , Rating: 2
I'm rather curious what people voted me down for...

RE: Thanks God
By bigi on 1/30/2013 3:56:24 PM , Rating: 1
Yes, yes...

you forgot:

1. Ocean water
2. Cosmic waves
3. Goodwill

Get real man. Nothing from your list will never work.

RE: Thanks God
By Dr of crap on 1/31/2013 12:52:36 PM , Rating: 2
But EV's WILL?

Based on YOUR opinion?

Lest you forget - they ARE NOT selling much!

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