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Conroe-L's BIOS information
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Intel just internally released some documentation about Conroe-L BIOS specifics.  Conroe-L, as we have previously disclosed on DailyTech, is a single-core version of Conroe for value systems.

Intel documentation claims that Conroe-L is not part of the immediate Core 2 family processors, but part of an "extended family" instead.  Conroe and Woodcrest are single-die CPUs with two cores per CPU.  Kentsfield, Clovertown and Tigerton have two dice per package, but are still considered part of the same family as Conroe and Woodcrest: the processors use the same signatures.  Conroe-L apparently has a different processor signature and different model number, but uses the same processor family identification. 

The main difference between Conroe-L and the rest of the Conroe family, according to older Intel roadmaps, is the fact that Conroe-L will only be a single core processor.  Whether or not this means one core has been disabled is not specified yet, though it is important to note that the Core 2 architecture has a shared cache -- meaning if one core is disabled it does not mean half of the processor cache is disabled.

Intel's latest roadmap still has Conroe-L slated for a Q2'07 launch.  The Core 2 Duo version of Conroe is expected to start shipping on the 23rd of July, with the embargo lift shortly after.



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By PedroDaGr8 on 6/22/2006 1:34:05 PM , Rating: 1
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Clovertown and Tigerton have two dice per package


I think that should read to dies per package. Unless intel is getting into the gambling scene

resisting any puns or comments about craps




RE: Error
By PT2006 on 6/22/2006 1:35:47 PM , Rating: 3
RE: Error
By PedroDaGr8 on 6/22/2006 1:44:01 PM , Rating: 2
I'm not sure if you are saying that I am wrong or that the person writing this article is constantly getting it wrong.
From wikipedia (searched for plural of die)
Note c: Dies is used as the plural for die in the sense of a mould; dice as the plural (and increasingly as the singular) in the sense of a small random number generator.


RE: Error
By PT2006 on 6/22/2006 1:47:01 PM , Rating: 2
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I'm not sure if you are saying that I am wrong or that the person writing this article is constantly getting it wrong.

I'm not sure anymore either. I just know it turns into a huge flame war everytime.


RE: Error
By TomZ on 6/22/2006 1:50:20 PM , Rating: 2
No, "dice" is a commonly-used plural form of "die" in the semiconductor industry. Wikipedia is not authoritative. Do some google searches instead.


RE: Error
By PedroDaGr8 on 6/22/2006 2:00:50 PM , Rating: 3
Thank you, I did a google search and that was the first thing that came up, I refined it with in the semiconductor industry and you are infact correct, and I apologize to the author for the sort-of insult. Anyways, I also added the semiconductor definition to wikipedias plural page.


RE: Error
By PT2006 on 6/22/2006 2:02:17 PM , Rating: 2
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Anyways, I also added the semiconductor definition to wikipedias plural page.

English is a moving target. Who would have said "I'll Google for it" 10 years ago.


RE: Error
By PedroDaGr8 on 6/22/2006 2:05:38 PM , Rating: 2
All languages are a moving target, it is just the nature of the necessity of language. It has to be a fluid dynamic system that enables people to understand what is being conveyed, otherwse if it is too rigid then people loose the ability to describe new things. I think that english is just one of the hardest because many times there are two or more words for the same thing (often one of germanic and one of latin origin).


RE: Error
By etriky on 6/22/2006 1:59:30 PM , Rating: 3
Well, I've worked in semiconductor manufacturing for the last 6 years. Two different companies. This site (and Anandtech) are ONLY places I have ever seen or heard someone refer many die as dice. One die => die. Many die => die. This coming from the CEO's on down to the fab floor. We say a wafer has 200 die. Not 200 dies or dice. It's just 'die'.


RE: Error
By TomZ on 6/22/2006 2:03:45 PM , Rating: 2
The world is bigger than your company. Google searches for "semiconductor dice," "semiconducor dies," and "semiconductor die" all turn up lots of usages. I would conclude there is not consensus in the industry, and therefore, I think we can't fault DT for their usage of "dice" in this context.


RE: Error
By dice1111 on 6/22/2006 4:37:54 PM , Rating: 2
Is there a possibility that the authors spell checker automatically replace's the word dies with dice? I know worse replacement have automatically happened to me before. :)


RE: Error
By TomZ on 6/22/2006 4:47:59 PM , Rating: 4
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Is there a possibility that the authors spell checker automatically replace's the word dies with dice

Not a regular DT reader, are you? Evidence would suggest that a spell checker is not regularly used.


RE: Error
By matthewcaudle on 6/22/2006 5:27:48 PM , Rating: 2
haha totally


RE: Error
By matthewcaudle on 6/22/2006 5:27:49 PM , Rating: 2
haha totally


RE: Error
By KristopherKubicki (blog) on 6/22/2006 10:26:08 PM , Rating: 2
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Not a regular DT reader, are you? Evidence would suggest that a spell checker is not regularly used.

Especially when it comes to Sven.... :-X But yes DailyTech policy is to use "dice" over "dies." As other people said, that seemed to be the evolving terminology when we started, and we are going to stick with it until everyone says otherwise.


RE: Error
By PedroDaGr8 on 6/22/2006 2:08:08 PM , Rating: 3
http://www.genus.com/glossary.html

On a glossary of terms on a semiconductor/ADT manufacturers webpage.


RE: Error
By PedroDaGr8 on 6/22/2006 2:09:01 PM , Rating: 2
Argh I replied to the wrong person, it should refer to etricky not you TomZ. I was showing one other place where it is used


RE: Error
By TomZ on 6/22/2006 2:24:27 PM , Rating: 3
There's a bug in the DT web site that causes that to happen. I have seen it many times, when you hit reply, it attaches your reply to the wrong message. You can tell if it is right or wrong by looking in the "Replying To" area under where you enter your reply.


RE: Error
By deeznuts on 6/22/2006 5:26:24 PM , Rating: 2
There is no error. If you notice, if you hit reply it indents your reply a little to the right of the original post. Since his is in line with your post, it is in fact a reply to first post above that is shifted to the left, which is etriky's post.

Notice how mine is shifted to the right of yours.


RE: Error
By deeznuts on 6/22/2006 5:27:03 PM , Rating: 2
Nevermind, it seems as if I am mistaken, something's changed, or it stops shifting after a couple of replies because it becomes hard to read.


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