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Apple's profit is flat due to higher manufacturing costs

While Apple managed to surpass analysts' profit forecasts for the fiscal 2013 first quarter, the company's stock took a tumble as investors worry over Apple's ability to maintain steady growth with new products.

Apple reported a revenue of $54.5 billion for the quarter ended December 29, 2012, compared to $46.33 billion in the year-ago quarter. The tech giant just missed analyst expectations of $54.73 billion.

Apple also earned a net profit of $13.1 billion ($13.81 a share) compared to $13.1 billion ($13.87 a share) a year ago. Profit clearly remained pretty flat, but it exceeded analysts' expectations of $13.44 a share.

The iDevice maker also noted that it had record iPhone sales for the quarter at 47.8 million (compared to 37 million in the year-ago quarter). It also had an uptick in iPad sales, from 15.4 million in the year ago quarter to 22.9 million in the most recent quarter.

“We’re thrilled with record revenue of over $54 billion and sales of over 75 million iOS devices in a single quarter,” said Tim Cook, Apple’s CEO. “We’re very confident in our product pipeline as we continue to focus on innovation and making the best products in the world.”

While Apple did okay for the quarter, investors are concerned with the company's flat profit due to higher manufacturing costs and also worry whether Apple can keep up its momentum with product popularity. Many new devices are hitting the market at lower prices and offer newer, better features. For instance, the iPad's market share was bested by Google's Nexus 7 tablet in Japan mainly due to cost differences.

Apple's stock has lost nearly 25 percent of its value since September 2012 ($170 billion in market value).

In after-hours trading today, Apple's stock fell over 10 percent.

Looking forward to fiscal 2013 second quarter, Apple expects a revenue of between $41 billion and $43 billion.

Earlier this month, it was reported that Apple had cut iPhone screen and component orders by 50 percent for the first quarter of 2013.

Source: Apple



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By retrospooty on 1/23/2013 9:05:12 PM , Rating: 2
Bingo... The Zeitgeist apple has had over the past 5 years is fading fast as their products fall further and further behind the competition.


By xype on 1/24/2013 2:29:10 AM , Rating: 2
Where is the iPhone "falling behind the competition", if you care to enlighten me?

CPU/GPU performance? Build quality? Weight? Thickness? Display quality? Software ecosystem?

Or will you pull out screen size and complain that Apple doesn't make a 6.5" iPhone?


By TakinYourPoints on 1/24/2013 4:20:23 AM , Rating: 2
He'll also pull out SD cards and replaceable batteries, things that cannot fit in small chassis, as other "high end" features it is missing.

You know, "high end" features you can get on giveaway trash featurephones at Boost Mobile. ;)


By retrospooty on 1/24/2013 7:15:32 AM , Rating: 3
"Where is the iPhone "falling behind the competition"

- Larger Screens
- Higher resolution screens
- Better Edge to Edge display (no giant Bezel)
- Better OS
- Better UI
- Prettier OS
- Better Notifications
- NFC
- Better Mapping software
- Plays HD content
- Greater than 5x4 icons
- Faster Voice search
- Photo Spere
- Mini HDMI port
- Multi user support (for tablets)
- Multi Window support
- Plug and play as a flash drive to copy files
- Flexibility in OS (Tons of Custom ROM's, etc)
- Flexibility in hardware
- Micro SD card
- Micro USB

Is that enough for you?

@Takin, you are dreaming, if you think these are cheap gimmicks. Maybe a few of them but that is a HUGE list of things missing on a supposed high end phone.


By TakinYourPoints on 1/24/2013 4:01:47 PM , Rating: 2
Some of those are gimmicks, others are simply untrue. Google Maps and Google Voice Search on iOS are actually better than what is on JB right now, but that will obviously close up once those apps eventually get ported over. Other things are BS, things like "plays HD content" (video scalers, do you now understand how they work?). Other things like Photo Sphere have been in iOS apps long before it was on Android, and things like mounting as a flash drive has been available via apps for years.

Most of these features tie into larger chassis, and that is purely personal preference. For every person who likes big phones, there is someone who thinks they are impractical for a portable device. That comes down to personal choice, not objective advantage.

Notice how the Nexus 4 doesn't have replaceable batteries or SD cards, despite being a really good piece of hardware? This isn't a "feature" issue, lots of trash phones can do those things. This is an engineering issue, there simply isn't the room for the mounting for those things. The iPhone is a much smaller device, barely enough room for RAM that is soldered in. Of course a giant phone can continue to have swappable memory or batteries, that's what happens when size isn't a practical constraint and you don't care about portability.

The single thing you're correct on are multi-user support for tablets, that's something iOS has needed for a long time now.


By retrospooty on 1/24/2013 4:14:54 PM , Rating: 2
"The single thing you're correct on are multi-user support for tablets, that's something iOS has needed for a long time now."

You know, I am getting tired of this. You are so full of crap its not even funny anymore. Some of what you said about gimmicks from a certain perspective is true. Let me pair this down to undeniable things your little toy phone is missing. There isnt a damn thing you can say aboout this list, and dont give me any crap about how your little 4 inch scren is better quality than some of the modern 1080p screens with 440+PPI.

- Larger Screens
- Higher resolution screens with better DPI
- Better Edge to Edge display (no giant iBezel)
- Micro SD card
- Removable batteries
- NFC
- Mini HDMI port
- Better Notifications
- Widgets
- Live wallpaper
- Multi user support
- Multi Window support
- Flexibility in OS (Tons of Custom ROM's, etc)
- Flexibility in hardware (qwerty models, waterproof models, removable batteries, larger models, smaller models, high end models, mid range models, cheap models)
- Micro USB (Like every other phone made by every other manufacturer on planet Earth for the past four years, except of course, Apple)


By TakinYourPoints on 1/24/2013 4:26:18 PM , Rating: 1
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You know, I am getting tired of this.


Good.

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Snip from retro's copypasta txt file


Still a bunch of gimmicks and things you only get from big phones, and not everyone wants a big phone. The Nexus 4 is missing user replaceable parts because of its size and people still love it. Hell, my KINDLE dropped user replaceable parts years ago and was improved by it. Other things like mini-HDMI, whatever, that's what Miracast and AirPlay are for. Get with the times!

For someone who talks a lot about "choice" you certainly seem to think that "comically huge" is the only way people should go.

I always frame it like "if you want a big device and are fine with the negatives they come with (slower hardware, inferior third party apps, inferior support), there are some good ones out there and you should go buy them". I don't care for the GS3 at all, the screen sucks, but the Droid DNA is a super nice piece of kit. I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to recommend it to someone who wants a big Android phone.

You seem to think there is only one way to go, and it doesn't revolve around applications, battery life, or performance, just chassis size.

Get out of that mentality, not everyone wants the same thing. Its all about choices, right?


By retrospooty on 1/24/2013 4:32:44 PM , Rating: 2
I agree its about choices. Its just that there are alot better choices available on android these days. And no its not all about size, its also better res, higher DPI etc. I can say the same right back at you. the few things the iPhone does well arent all that matters to everyone... Choices.


By TakinYourPoints on 1/24/2013 4:49:25 PM , Rating: 2
Higher DPI once you get past 300 (250 really) is a questionable improvement. You already cannot distinguish individual pixels in those cases, except now with 440 PPI you're putting an even bigger strain on the GPU hardware to render things smoothly. That's something 4.1 still has issues with compared to iOS and WP7/8. Increasing pixel count for no practical gain is not an advantage.

And again, I've said repeatedly that the things the iPhone does well (performance, apps, polish, support, battery life) aren't for everyone. If you want bigger screens, keyboards, removable batteries, sideloading, and tinkering with your homescreen, then Android is clearly the choice for you. I've never said otherwise.

Hell, I've recommended Windows Phone for years, long before it became "cool" to do so with the newer Nokia devices. I think in many ways it has the best mobile UI out there, and the only thing holding back applications are the number of users it has. Its SDK is better than anything else out there.


By retrospooty on 1/24/2013 6:50:19 PM , Rating: 2
"Higher DPI once you get past 300 (250 really) is a questionable improvement."

Not true... 440+ is overkill, but on a 4.5-4.8 inch screen, PPI is starting to get a bit low... A 5 inch screen after 1280x720 they could have gone with 1600x900 and been fine, but the LCD makers went to 1920x1080, so it is what it is. What else it is, is an advantage. Its higher res and its better DPI on a better screen. That is superior x 3. Anything you say to the contrary is a cop out and you know it. :P

"And again, I've said repeatedly that the things the iPhone does well (performance, apps, polish, support, battery life) aren't for everyone. If you want bigger screens, keyboards, removable batteries, sideloading, and tinkering with your homescreen, then Android is clearly the choice for you. I've never said otherwise."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj-oWQjZ31c


By menting on 1/24/2013 8:23:24 AM , Rating: 2
everything you that you mentioned except for the GPU portion, the iPhone is falling behind the competition.


By retrospooty on 1/24/2013 9:24:05 AM , Rating: 2
Yup... It does have the best GPU in the industry... Too bad it does no good on anything but games, and phones/tablets absolutely suck for gaming.

Overall, I do say this about the iPhone, it has a very impressive speed/size/battery ratio. For a device that fast and that thin, the battery life is fantastic... Slightly better app support as well. Unfortunately it lacks everywhere else.


“And I don't know why [Apple is] acting like it’s superior. I don't even get it. What are they trying to say?” -- Bill Gates on the Mac ads














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